1944-D Jefferson Nickel DDO-001

stash · June 12, 2016 9:17PM

Do you guys think when it's graded, it can get a CAC ?

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Here's the link to this DDO .
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oih82w8 · June 12, 2016 9:37PM

I am not sure about this one being a DDO, at least not one being attributable through PCGS. As far as being to meet/exceed CAC standards, it depends on what PCGS/NGC grades it at. JA may not like the apparent "carbon spots" on the obverse at any grade.

What does the "S" in TRUST look like? Are there any "split serifs" I believe the term is called. It looks like shelf doubling to me, flat and non-rounded.

garrynot · June 12, 2016 9:39PM

Do you believe the letters are recut?

JRocco · June 12, 2016 9:51PM

Looks like MDD on the T, so not the DDO

stash · June 12, 2016 9:51PM

Originally posted by: oih82w8
I am not sure about this one being a DDO, at least not one being attributable through PCGS. As far as being to meet/exceed CAC standards, it depends on what PCGS/NGC grades it at. JA may not like the apparent "carbon spots" on the obverse at any grade.

What does the "S" in TRUST look like? Are there any "split serifs" I believe the term is called. It looks like shelf doubling to me, flat and non-rounded.

I don't have the coin yet, just bought it over the weekend ...

stash · June 12, 2016 9:55PM

This is a early die state, then the one that's on Brian site .

davewesen · June 12, 2016 10:29PM

Originally posted by: garrynot
Do you believe the letters are recut?

The ERT look re-engraved similar to seen on some 1938 proof nickels.

mariner67 · June 12, 2016 10:58PM

As mentioned...CAC is dependent on what grade a coin is given and how "good" it is within that grade.
So, without a grade yet....there is no way one can guess if it will CAC or not.

stash · June 12, 2016 11:06PM

I wish I had this coin in my hands, I will re-post when I take new images .

ricko · June 12, 2016 11:23PM

The letters certainly look more like re-engraved than DD.... strange appearance..The E and T in particular.... Cheers, RickO

johnny9434 · June 13, 2016 4:46AM

Originally posted by: ricko
The letters certainly look more like re-engraved than DD.... strange appearance..The E and T in particular.... Cheers, RickO

some in the B as well. just saying

oih82w8 · June 13, 2016 6:11AM

I have had a few early Jefferson's with this type of "re-engraving" especially on the "T" of Liberty...or was it the "T's" in Trust...and the loops of B and R. Time to break 'em out and take another look.

stash · June 13, 2016 8:56AM

Here's a couple of images ( side by side ) of " LIBERTY " from Brian site, for DDO-001 .
Kept in mind, Brian coin is a later die state too ..

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robec · June 13, 2016 12:41PM

I see some similarities, but in order for yours to be the DDO-001 wouldn't the markers have to be identical? They are not.

The split serif in Brian's B is evident, I don't see it in yours. The T is completely different from yours.

stash · June 13, 2016 8:33PM

Originally posted by: robec
I see some similarities, but in order for yours to be the DDO-001 wouldn't the markers have to be identical? They are not.

The split serif in Brian's B is evident, I don't see it in yours. The T is completely different from yours.

Again, my is a " WAY " early die state then Brian ...

stash · June 13, 2016 9:12PM

Like I said yesterday, when I receive the coin, I'll take new images .
I can work some magic with my photo program to catch the split serif on the top of the " B " .

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stash · June 13, 2016 9:38PM

Here's the chart from Coneca, on this DDO .

The one from Brian site is at least stage C ( Die Cracks East -West Through Upper Hair

MY is stage A, no die cracks anywhere .

1944-D

DDO-001

Designation:

1-O-I-CW

Description:

Light spread on IN GOD WE TRUST, LIBERTY, star, and date

Grade:

MS66

Population:

7

Markers:

UVC-182

DMR-010

Stage A:

Obverse is EMDS

Reverse is LISTED as RPM-008 – EMDS

Stage B:

Obverse is MDS

Die crack from Right dome South between pillars #3 and #4 to N of CENTS – MDS

Stage C:

Two light die cracks East-West though upper hair – LMDS

Die crack from dome North to rim though mintmark and 2nd U of PLURIBUS – LMDS

Stage

LDS (unconfirmed)

Reported by:

James Wiles

stash · June 13, 2016 9:48PM

This is what the early die state looks like .

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No grinder yet .

Here's what stage C ( at least ) looks like .

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As you can see, the grinder been busy ...

davewesen · June 14, 2016 2:29PM

You may be correct on the die states. You could always send it to Wiles at VarietyVista / CONECA for designation.

I am confused about the CAC question, as I thought they just designated solid for the grade with no hidden problems?

If that is blue or purple in the centers of the nickel, I suspect you may get an AT from PCGS.

stash · June 15, 2016 2:04AM

Originally posted by: davewesen
You may be correct on the die states. You could always send it to Wiles at VarietyVista / CONECA for designation.

I am confused about the CAC question, as I thought they just designated solid for the grade with no hidden problems?

If that is blue or purple in the centers of the nickel, I suspect you may get an AT from PCGS.

Coin due in today, I'll take some new images when it arrives ...

Smittys · June 15, 2016 2:47AM

Master Hubb Doubling

44-P

44-S

stash · June 15, 2016 3:03AM

Originally posted by: Smittys
Master Hubb Doubling
44-P
44-S

Thank you ...

I need to image God, We and anything else ...

1944-D Jefferson Nickel DDO-001

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