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CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
Just renewed my 3 year ANA membership for around $140 on Friday. Today I received a free with 3 year membership, 2016 Silver Eagle NGC graded MS69 with a special label noting the celebration of the 125th year of the ANA. Plus I get to continue my coin insurance through Hugh Wood at a nominal price. Plus membership at NGC! Its a win, win, win ! There are no losses by buying the 3 year membership to the ANA ASAP. They are running out of the free NGC graded ASE. If only for the immediate opportunities, then do it for the future of this awesome hobby! Its a no brainer!

By the way, I about $140 a year to insure $40,000 worth of numismatic items. Show me a better deal...

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The insurance part can be good. Agreed.

    The SAE with the membership is nice. Agreed (ordered a 1yr membership for my YN son and he got the SAE with his membership)

    The NGC membership....not something I would use or need.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Life member here. I love the free cookies that come every holiday.
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin
    Life member here. I love the free cookies that come every holiday.


    Cookies,cookies? Where?
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's worth joining just to support the biggest non-profit in our hobby and to show that you give a darn.

    But if you need more reasons to join, the Numismatist magazine is worth the price of membership as well and don't forget that as a member you can now access (and search) every one of the back issues (over 100 years worth) on their website.

    Of course you have access to books and other media from the ANA Library too... a huge benefit which allows you to see those long out of print references w/o having to pay hundreds of dollars to own a copy. All you have to do is pay library rate shipping each way.

    Always surprises me to see so many who seemingly love this hobby not supporting and being involved in the ANA.
  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I forgot the print magazine. This this thing is basically free after benefits!
  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also for those of you who don't need the magazine in print and would just prefer to read it online, the 3 year renewal is more like $75 I believe and you still get the silver eagle. As well as all the other benefits mentioned above.
  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think its just something yo do if you declare yourself as a Numismatist.
  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I did just join for the first but am still working on the numismatist part.
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm a lifer....I don't get the cookies, but I think I got a free flyrod when I became a lifetime member, IIRC.

    Tom

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The trouble is that the ANA has "trained" the numismatic community to expect a freebie with membership. The fallacy is that a shiny trinket here, a free gizmo there is what engages members with the organization. Now, unless the ANA gives a new or renewing member something, it's not "worth" becoming a member or renewing your membership.

    It's sad the ANA still seems to confuse increased membership with engaged membership. The ANA doesn't need more members, it needs more active engagement from its current members.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image I don't really get free cookies, but I do recommend that local visitors to the shop join the ANA sponsored club in my town. image
  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I didn't do it for the "gizmo". It's a good association that helps preserve this hobby. That, and I did it for the special insurance premium.
  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: astrorat

    The trouble is that the ANA has "trained" the numismatic community to expect a freebie with membership. The fallacy is that a shiny trinket here, a free gizmo there is what engages members with the organization. Now, unless the ANA gives a new or renewing member something, it's not "worth" becoming a member or renewing your membership.



    It's sad the ANA still seems to confuse increased membership with engaged membership. The ANA doesn't need more members, it needs more active engagement from its current members.




    This is very true with the ANA, and other numismatic organizations that I belong to. As the membership grows, the number of people who are willing to take that extra step doesn't seem to grow with it. But like the saying goes, you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find a prince. Out of the many may come the few who will step up, so I always see some positive in attracting new members.

    And I do believe the ANA did something to include life members in this latest giveaway. Last I heard if you got someone else to sign up, you were eligible for the Eagle, but don't quote me on that.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always thought it'd be nice to be a lifer and get a token made that had your ANA lifetime member # on it. Maybe one day.
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: astrorat

    The ANA doesn't need more members, it needs more active engagement from its current members.




    It needs both.



    I'm a Life Member.
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: CommemKing
    Just renewed my 3 year ANA membership for around $140 on Friday. Today I received a free with 3 year membership, 2016 Silver Eagle NGC graded MS69 with a special label noting the celebration of the 125th year of the ANA. Plus I get to continue my coin insurance through Hugh Wood at a nominal price. Plus membership at NGC! Its a win, win, win ! There are no losses by buying the 3 year membership to the ANA ASAP. They are running out of the free NGC graded ASE. If only for the immediate opportunities, then do it for the future of this awesome hobby! Its a no brainer!

    By the way, I about $140 a year to insure $40,000 worth of numismatic items. Show me a better deal...


    Thanks for the reminder. I've never joined the ANA and have been procrastinating. After reading your post earlier today, I went straight to the ANA website and joined a 1-year Platinum Membership. And I got an email confirming that I'll be receiving one of the special ASEs.

    I really can't wait to start getting the magazine. I've read a few issues in the past and it's great reading.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: astrorat
    The trouble is that the ANA has "trained" the numismatic community to expect a freebie with membership. The fallacy is that a shiny trinket here, a free gizmo there is what engages members with the organization. Now, unless the ANA gives a new or renewing member something, it's not "worth" becoming a member or renewing your membership.

    It's sad the ANA still seems to confuse increased membership with engaged membership. The ANA doesn't need more members, it needs more active engagement from its current members.


    Anyone willing to spend $46/year for a membership is engaged enough in the membership. Increased membership is a great goal because I believe someone is already "engaged" to some extent in the hobby if they're willing to spend the money for a membeship Or perhaps you should define "engaged."
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I searched ANA and got 1) American Nurses Association, 2) All Nippon Airlines. I had to type in the full name. image
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2

    Originally posted by: astrorat

    The trouble is that the ANA has "trained" the numismatic community to expect a freebie with membership. The fallacy is that a shiny trinket here, a free gizmo there is what engages members with the organization. Now, unless the ANA gives a new or renewing member something, it's not "worth" becoming a member or renewing your membership.



    It's sad the ANA still seems to confuse increased membership with engaged membership. The ANA doesn't need more members, it needs more active engagement from its current members.




    Anyone willing to spend $46/year for a membership is engaged enough in the membership. Increased membership is a great goal because I believe someone is already "engaged" to some extent in the hobby if they're willing to spend the money for a membeship Or perhaps you should define "engaged."





    astrorat's point is crystal clear and spot on. At least it is to me

    It could be used to describe many organizations from the ANA to the local VFD.



    While punching in your CC number is admirable, it is the lowest rung of engagement.



    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a good investment.
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: sparky64
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    Originally posted by: astrorat
    The trouble is that the ANA has "trained" the numismatic community to expect a freebie with membership. The fallacy is that a shiny trinket here, a free gizmo there is what engages members with the organization. Now, unless the ANA gives a new or renewing member something, it's not "worth" becoming a member or renewing your membership.

    It's sad the ANA still seems to confuse increased membership with engaged membership. The ANA doesn't need more members, it needs more active engagement from its current members.


    Anyone willing to spend $46/year for a membership is engaged enough in the membership. Increased membership is a great goal because I believe someone is already "engaged" to some extent in the hobby if they're willing to spend the money for a membeship Or perhaps you should define "engaged."


    astrorat's point is crystal clear and spot on. At least it is to me
    It could be used to describe many organizations from the ANA to the local VFD.

    While punching in your CC number is admirable, it is the lowest rung of engagement.



    And my question is still valid. Define "engaged." Now that I've joined the ANA, what do I need to now do to be "engaged"?


    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭
    For anyone interested in the study of organizational theory and behavior, I recommend "Exit, Voice, and Loyalty," subtitled "Responses to Decline in Firms, Organizations, and States," by economist Albert Otto Hirschman. His ideas can be applied to membership organizations like the ANA.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't really get free cookies,


    Darn... I was just about to pursue this 'cookie' issue... I have three oatmeal raisin cookies

    for breakfast every day.... image Cheers, RickO

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    Originally posted by: sparky64
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    Originally posted by: astrorat
    The trouble is that the ANA has "trained" the numismatic community to expect a freebie with membership. The fallacy is that a shiny trinket here, a free gizmo there is what engages members with the organization. Now, unless the ANA gives a new or renewing member something, it's not "worth" becoming a member or renewing your membership.

    It's sad the ANA still seems to confuse increased membership with engaged membership. The ANA doesn't need more members, it needs more active engagement from its current members.


    Anyone willing to spend $46/year for a membership is engaged enough in the membership. Increased membership is a great goal because I believe someone is already "engaged" to some extent in the hobby if they're willing to spend the money for a membeship Or perhaps you should define "engaged."


    astrorat's point is crystal clear and spot on. At least it is to me
    It could be used to describe many organizations from the ANA to the local VFD.

    While punching in your CC number is admirable, it is the lowest rung of engagement.



    And my question is still valid. Define "engaged." Now that I've joined the ANA, what do I need to now do to be "engaged"?


    That's a very fair question. Engagement is more than just joining. Engagement is actively advancing the mission of the organization. This most commonly occurs through volunteerism. What do you do now ... contact the ANA to volunteer at the local or national level. Join committees. Run for office. There are lots of ways to engage with the ANA.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: astrorat
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    Originally posted by: sparky64
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    Originally posted by: astrorat
    The trouble is that the ANA has "trained" the numismatic community to expect a freebie with membership. The fallacy is that a shiny trinket here, a free gizmo there is what engages members with the organization. Now, unless the ANA gives a new or renewing member something, it's not "worth" becoming a member or renewing your membership.

    It's sad the ANA still seems to confuse increased membership with engaged membership. The ANA doesn't need more members, it needs more active engagement from its current members.


    Anyone willing to spend $46/year for a membership is engaged enough in the membership. Increased membership is a great goal because I believe someone is already "engaged" to some extent in the hobby if they're willing to spend the money for a membeship Or perhaps you should define "engaged."


    astrorat's point is crystal clear and spot on. At least it is to me
    It could be used to describe many organizations from the ANA to the local VFD.

    While punching in your CC number is admirable, it is the lowest rung of engagement.



    And my question is still valid. Define "engaged." Now that I've joined the ANA, what do I need to now do to be "engaged"?


    That's a very fair question. Engagement is more than just joining. Engagement is actively advancing the mission of the organization. This most commonly occurs through volunteerism. What do you do now ... contact the ANA to volunteer at the local or national level. Join committees. Run for office. There are lots of ways to engage with the ANA.


    How about participate in my local club that is registered through the ANA?

    "engaged" is a very subjective term. Simply being a member and providing the annual membership fee to help the organization exist is a level of engagement that is still important to the organization.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Life member too.



    I don't expect any freebies, though I did get a free cookie when I visited their website.

    Lance.
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How about participate in my local club that is registered through the ANA? "engaged" is a very subjective term. Simply being a member and providing the annual membership fee to help the organization exist is a level of engagement that is still important to the organization.




    TigersFan2,

    I agree that it's a good question as to what can one do to be more engaged with the ANA.

    Participating in your local club is a plus in my book.



    Involvement may be impractical for most due to locale, etc. but maybe some of those could submit a small article or something.

    Not that I could write a worthy one, btw. image



    I should point out that, like you, I just joined a few months ago. image





    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin
    image I don't really get free cookies, but I do recommend that local visitors to the shop join the ANA sponsored club in my town. image



    Cookies are not something to joke about.
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Bochiman
    The insurance part can be good. Agreed.
    The SAE with the membership is nice. Agreed (ordered a 1yr membership for my YN son and he got the SAE with his membership)
    The NGC membership....not something I would use or need.


    ANA does poor job marketing themselves..i.e. recruiting past members,. promoting their message/ it is a good deal.... I am in ..
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: bestday
    Originally posted by: Bochiman
    The insurance part can be good. Agreed.
    The SAE with the membership is nice. Agreed (ordered a 1yr membership for my YN son and he got the SAE with his membership)
    The NGC membership....not something I would use or need.


    ANA does poor job marketing themselves..i.e. recruiting past members,. promoting their message/ it is a good deal.... I am in ..


    The website could be improved a lot. It took me awhile yesterday to figure out how to join and what the different membership options are and what each includes. Their FAQ is about coins and not about the ANA. It would be nice to have an ANA FAQ.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cookies are not something to joke about.


    I might get kicked out of the club, if I keep this up.

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: sparky64
    How about participate in my local club that is registered through the ANA? "engaged" is a very subjective term. Simply being a member and providing the annual membership fee to help the organization exist is a level of engagement that is still important to the organization.


    TigersFan2,
    I agree that it's a good question as to what can one do to be more engaged with the ANA.
    Participating in your local club is a plus in my book.

    Involvement may be impractical for most due to locale, etc. but maybe some of those could submit a small article or something.
    Not that I could write a worthy one, btw. image

    I should point out that, like you, I just joined a few months ago. image


    One approach is to ask the ANA directly how you can help. "Back in the day" we were always looking for volunteers at the local, state, and national level. Members can serve on committees, many of which did not require a presence at headquarters.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    The ANA is quick. Joined for the first time Monday afternoon and today I received the special edition 125th Anniversary 2016 ASE in NGC MS69.

    What I don't understand is why the back of the slab says in the hologram, "The Official Grading Service of the ANA." Doesn't the ANA own ANACS? Wouldn't their own grading service be their official grading service?
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    Doesn't the ANA own ANACS?


    The ANA sold ANACS in 1990. It's now owned by Driving Force LLC. The following is from the ANACS History webpage:

    In 1989 ANACS discontinued issuing photo certificates and began encapsulating coins in tamper evident plastic holders. A year later, the ANA board of governors sold ANACS to Amos Press, publishers of Coin World. In December 2007, ANACS was acquired by Driving Force, LLC, of Colorado and on January 1, 2008 was relocated to Englewood, Colorado, a Denver suburb.

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