Pogue

Justacommeman · May 21, 2016 7:34AM

Couldn't find one in the search function

Will be there.

mark

EastonCollection · May 21, 2016 7:59AM

me too - will go to lot viewing on sunday and then again for the big show. eager to see what the 22 & 04 sells for! I was there when they pogue bought them.

Justacommeman · May 21, 2016 8:32AM

Originally posted by: EastonCollection

me too - will go to lot viewing on sunday and then again for the big show. eager to see what the 22 & 04 sells for! I was there when they pogue bought them.

What time is lot viewing on Sunday? Appt only?

Thanks

M

Sunshine Rare Coins · May 21, 2016 8:48AM

I think it is appointment only

1-5pm

EastonCollection · May 21, 2016 8:52AM

Originally posted by: UltraHighRelief

I think it is appointment only

1-5pm

thats my understanding.

Gazes · May 21, 2016 9:46AM

What is the opening bid for the 1822 ?

Ablinky · May 21, 2016 11:22AM

Originally posted by: Gazes

What is the opening bid for the 1822 ?

$2,600,000

Ronyahski · May 21, 2016 11:31AM

The auction is up on-line. Opening bid on the 1822 HE is $2.6 mil.

I'll be there.

Gazes · May 21, 2016 1:18PM

Thanks for the Info

EastonCollection · May 21, 2016 9:40PM

Originally posted by: Ronyahski

The auction is up on-line. Opening bid on the 1822 HE is $2.6 mil.

I'll be there.

I don't believe that the Pogue will allow the 1822 go for $2.6 mil. I think the price gotta reach $5 mill (or so) before it sells. If I were in their shoes, I wouldn't that one go cheap. They don't need the $$$$

Gazes · May 21, 2016 10:11PM

I wonder how long the 1822 will be off the market after this next sale?

Jackthecat1 · May 22, 2016 12:26PM

I will be there as a witness to history. Certainly not as a buyer.

tradedollarnut · May 22, 2016 12:31PM

Originally posted by: EastonCollection

Originally posted by: Ronyahski
The auction is up on-line. Opening bid on the 1822 HE is $2.6 mil.

I'll be there.

I don't believe that the Pogue will allow the 1822 go for $2.6 mil. I think the price gotta reach $5 mill (or so) before it sells. If I were in their shoes, I wouldn't that one go cheap. They don't need the $$$$

How was lot viewing?

roadrunner · May 22, 2016 12:54PM

Originally posted by: EastonCollection

Originally posted by: Ronyahski

The auction is up on-line. Opening bid on the 1822 HE is $2.6 mil.

I'll be there.

I don't believe that the Pogue will allow the 1822 go for $2.6 mil. I think the price gotta reach $5 mill (or so) before it sells. If I were in their shoes, I wouldn't that one go cheap. They don't need the $$$$

The 1822 brought $682K in the very depressed down market of 1982. Great coins were dirt cheap back then. A multiple of 4X since then is sort of absurd. I would look at 6X to 10X which would be $4 MILL to $7 MILL. Consider that the 1794 SP66 dollar sold for less than the 1822 $5 several years later at the Amon Carter sale, a much stronger market. In 1982 the Robison 1839-0 proof 50c sold for around $14K. It's value today is 10X to 25X that.

BillJones · May 22, 2016 12:58PM

Sorry I can't bid on the 1838-C half eagle! I'll leave the 1822, with all of its charms, to the people who have far more resources than I do. Let's hope that it does not go to someone who will give it to the government. Two of those coins "in the the public trust" is enough.

privaterarecoincollector · May 22, 2016 3:44PM

I dont think the 1822 will sell, it will be reserved and not meet the reserve, thats my forecast.

The 1804 Dollar and the 1822 half eagle both are reserved I have been told, but they didnt disclose the reserves so far.

Regarding values I dont think you can make the math it was 680k then so now it must be 10x. The 50 USD Kellogg sold at 300k USD at Garrett in 1982 and its not a 3 mio USD coin today.

Some coins did 25x since then and some others 2x.

I personally wouldnt know what to do with the 1822 half eagle or 1804 Dollar, as they both dont fit into the set Im trying to build.

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