Coinfacts record holder?
Mark
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I was amusing myself looking at pictures of Wisconsin commemoratives on Coinfacts and found I wonder might be a record breaking coin, one with at least 9 and maybe 10 separate pictures and separate certification numbers. Each time it was submitted, it graded MS67, which I think is a testament to our host's consistency in grading. It's also a testament to at least one collector's view that the coin is better than a 67.
Are there any coins in Coinfacts with more than 9 (or 10) pictures? Or is this coin perhaps the record holder?
For what it's worth, here is a link to the Coinfacts pictures. The 9 certification numbers I am very confident reflect the same coin (check the diagonal toning lines under "domini" ) start with the second coin in the MS67 group and are
25226287, 30773982, 25312509, 25320866, 25362272, 25369989, 25024271, 25511301, 25543960, 20604893
I think this coin is the same but I'm not totally certain:
24763286
Are there any coins in Coinfacts with more than 9 (or 10) pictures? Or is this coin perhaps the record holder?
For what it's worth, here is a link to the Coinfacts pictures. The 9 certification numbers I am very confident reflect the same coin (check the diagonal toning lines under "domini" ) start with the second coin in the MS67 group and are
25226287, 30773982, 25312509, 25320866, 25362272, 25369989, 25024271, 25511301, 25543960, 20604893
I think this coin is the same but I'm not totally certain:
24763286
Mark
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Someone brought this up a few days ago, I believe it was just under/over 10 images of the same coin.
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These go to 11. At least that is how many I counted.
What is going on with one of the MS-66's that has a world gold coin for a photo.
I kind of like the VF-25 at the bottom.
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Multiple buyers and multiple attempts at a plus or 68 grade.
Very nice coin.
Multiple buyers and multiple attempts at a plus or 68 grade.
...with none of them willing to submit for regrade or reconsideration -- at least for these attempts -- right?
They could at least send the old labels in.
Very nice coin.
Multiple buyers and multiple attempts at a plus or 68 grade.
...with none of them willing to submit for regrade or reconsideration -- at least for these attempts -- right?
They could at least send the old labels in.
You're right. When folks have to give some effort to do anything, the couch potato effect, lazy, is too strong to overcome.
Very nice coin.
Multiple buyers and multiple attempts at a plus or 68 grade.
...with none of them willing to submit for regrade or reconsideration -- at least for these attempts -- right?
They could at least send the old labels in.
If sent in for regrade service still in the slab, wouldn't PCGS already have the old label?
Do you think these were cracked out each time? I can't imagine this coin continuously being cracked out while in a 67 holder.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
There are some phenomenal 68+ coins at the top of that link, too.
The most amusing thing about that page to me is that the obverse and reverse order keeps switching!
I wondered about that too. Is it related to which side is face up in the holder or do they keep switching which side they consider to be the obverse?
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Andrew Blinkiewicz-Heritage
Do all of the TrueView photos of coins end up in Coin Facts??
And when did they start offering that service?
I recently ran ALL of my PCGS coins through the Cert Verification, just hoping to find a TrueView photo or two. None. Well over 100 coins, and not one has been TrueViewed.
Not sure if that says something about my collection quality, the age of them, or the cheapness of the submitters. (Maybe a little of each).
Seems like a worthy exercise to pay some intern to go through the photos and recommend some for deletion? It would help "fix" the population reports, and remove some of the redundancy on their server.....
Questions:
Do all of the TrueView photos of coins end up in Coin Facts??
And when did they start offering that service?
No.
What service are you referring to? Coinfacts? True Views?
Lance.
Questions:
Do all of the TrueView photos of coins end up in Coin Facts??
And when did they start offering that service?
No.
What service are you referring to? Coinfacts? True Views?
Lance.
Was referring to when they started offering TrueView photos. If they don't automatically all go to Coinfacts, it doesn't really matter what the date was....
How do they determine which photos go into CoinFacts? There does seem to be a mix of "spectacular" high grades, and "average" circulated coins there, (though, tilted toward the high end).
Very nice coin.
Multiple buyers and multiple attempts at a plus or 68 grade.
...with none of them willing to submit for regrade or reconsideration -- at least for these attempts -- right?
They could at least send the old labels in.
If sent in for regrade service still in the slab, wouldn't PCGS already have the old label?
Do you think these were cracked out each time? I can't imagine this coin continuously being cracked out while in a 67 holder.
It had to have been to get TrueViews, correct? The graders probably recognized the coin each time it came through
Maybe the owner kept submitting until he got a TrueView he liked?
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Very nice coin.
Multiple buyers and multiple attempts at a plus or 68 grade.
...with none of them willing to submit for regrade or reconsideration -- at least for these attempts -- right?
They could at least send the old labels in.
If sent in for regrade service still in the slab, wouldn't PCGS already have the old label?
Do you think these were cracked out each time? I can't imagine this coin continuously being cracked out while in a 67 holder.
Good point.
So if population show more that actually are, would the price artificially go down?
The price would go back up when trying locate the coin, and realizing how scarce it is at that condition?
Everything is all right!
Very nice coin.
Multiple buyers and multiple attempts at a plus or 68 grade.
...with none of them willing to submit for regrade or reconsideration -- at least for these attempts -- right?
They could at least send the old labels in.
If sent in for regrade service still in the slab, wouldn't PCGS already have the old label?
Do you think these were cracked out each time? I can't imagine this coin continuously being cracked out while in a 67 holder.
It had to have been to get TrueViews, correct? The graders probably recognized the coin each time it came through
No. They were all regrades...submitted in the holder, cracked by PCGS, True View imaged, and reholdered.
Check the cert#s. Only the topmost one is in the database (25226287). PCGS deleted the others but never took down the Coinfacts pictures.
It is also possible that the owner did the cracking and returned the old certs. But the fact that the grade never varied makes that possibility extremely unlikely.
Lance.
Questions:
Do all of the TrueView photos of coins end up in Coin Facts??
And when did they start offering that service?
I recently ran ALL of my PCGS coins through the Cert Verification, just hoping to find a TrueView photo or two. None. Well over 100 coins, and not one has been TrueViewed.
Not sure if that says something about my collection quality, the age of them, or the cheapness of the submitters. (Maybe a little of each).
Seems like a worthy exercise to pay some intern to go through the photos and recommend some for deletion? It would help "fix" the population reports, and remove some of the redundancy on their server.....
Tommy,
My understanding is that currently, IF you pay for a TRU VIEW picture of your coin while having the coin either graded or reholdered PCGS will include the coin in Coin Facts. If you have never had any of your coins TRU VIEWED by PCGS, then obviously, the coin will not be put in Coin Facts. I'm not sure exactly when this process started so probably a number of earlier TRU VIEWED coins may not be in Coin Facts.
Steve
My Complete PROOF Lincoln Cent with Major Varieties(1909-2015)Set Registry
Very nice coin.
Multiple buyers and multiple attempts at a plus or 68 grade.
...with none of them willing to submit for regrade or reconsideration -- at least for these attempts -- right?
They could at least send the old labels in.
If sent in for regrade service still in the slab, wouldn't PCGS already have the old label?
Do you think these were cracked out each time? I can't imagine this coin continuously being cracked out while in a 67 holder.
It had to have been to get TrueViews, correct? The graders probably recognized the coin each time it came through
No. They were all regrades...submitted in the holder, cracked by PCGS, True View imaged, and reholdered.
Check the cert#s. Only the topmost one is in the database (25226287). PCGS deleted the others but never took down the Coinfacts pictures.
It is also possible that the owner did the cracking and returned the old certs. But the fact that the grade never varied makes that possibility extremely unlikely.
Lance.
Two of the certs are still active, 25226287 and 20604893
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Ha. You're right, Bob. First and last ones. I guess the first was a crack-out (with no returned cert) and the owner played it safe by regrading the rest.
Funny too that the poor fellow paid for so many TV's. Clearly he wanted one tied to the latest submission, maybe for a registry?
OTOH, maybe he TV'd only 11 of the many more submissions.
Lance.
This is the trend at PCGS. Used to be they'd keep the same cert numbers. Even for conserved coins. Nowadays new numbers are assigned for reconsiderations that upgrade, all regrades...anything that's been touched. Maybe a good thing.
Lance.