1921 P Morgan Die Lines or not?

jesbroken · May 9, 2016 2:33AM

I thought these were scratches but these lines on the obverse of this 1921P Morgan appear raised rather than scratched into the obverse. I looked thru the VamWorld listing for die lines and find none similar to these. Perhaps they are something else other than die lines. Your opinions please.

Thank you...Jim

LanceNewmanOCC · May 9, 2016 8:45AM

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u talkin bout the cheek?

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grip · May 9, 2016 8:56AM

PMD. To bad nice strike.jmo.

MedalCollector · May 9, 2016 9:40AM

Typically die polish lines will appear in the field (which is struck by the highest points of the die). Marks this large on the cheek is from circulation or some other form of damage.

ctf_error_coins · May 9, 2016 9:53AM

Originally posted by: GoldenEgg
Typically die polish lines will appear in the field (which is struck by the highest points of the die). Marks this large on the cheek is from circulation or some other form of damage.

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silverpop · May 9, 2016 11:11AM

pmd

coinhack · May 9, 2016 12:56PM

I would have to believe that those who have already said that it is PMD are correct, they do have experience and good eyes for spotting flaws.

But on the other hand...

with the light coming from the left and all of the highlights on the left, it does make it look like the lines are little raised mounds rather than scratches to my eyes.

But then again...

with all of the Vam experts looking at every minute die market, someone would have found such an anomaly long ago and given the variety a cute name, don't you think?

TheDukeK · May 9, 2016 1:12PM

not die polish

ricko · May 9, 2016 9:50PM

PMD.... definitely not die polish... Cheers, RickO

asheland · May 10, 2016 2:21AM

Hairlines

coindeuce · May 10, 2016 4:03AM

Understand that the area of raised devices on a coin relate to recessed or incuse features of a die. In order for die scratches to appear on the cheek of Liberty on a Morgan Dollar, a tool would have to had come in contact with the flat, upper surface of the fields on the die surface initially, unless the die was being reworked with a fine pointed instrument like a scribe that could be aimed at the recess in the die. The Mint workers are known to have used acid to etch certain device features that they wanted to modify or repair on working dies, but never have been known to have used a fine pointed tool once the engraver had finalized a master die.

Even the 1921 Morgan Dollar varieties which exhibit the "scribbling" die scratch features in protected areas of the fields were likely the result of the careless use of a stone bit or a coarse grade of emery cloth.

jesbroken · May 10, 2016 5:27AM

Thanks for the info, everyone. I assumed it was scratches until I noticed what I thought to be raised, but evidently wrong. Again, I appreciate your help.

Jim

1921 P Morgan Die Lines or not?

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