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1869 Nickel Pattern 5c

Judd-683

Low R.7



PCGS PR64CAM



It's a coin I picked up raw recently that had been tucked away in a private collection since the 80's. It appears to be the first of this variety to be designated Cameo so that is pretty cool.







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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool. The reverse design is terrific...they should have used it.
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a very nice pattern!
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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, very cool -- looks better than a 64 to me!
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: SeattleSlammer

    Very cool. The reverse design is terrific...they should have used it.


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  • brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful pattern. I really like that reverse design also.
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  • Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭
    Impressive coin!
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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Far better than the design they went with. Outstanding coin! Enjoy!

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  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice! Just goes to show that the design selection process failures are nothing new. That reverse is much nicer IMO than the one they chose.



    P.S. The obverse design is no slouch either. Haha
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    is/was conservation considered? fields appear dusty/hazy.



    gr8 coin though, obviously.



    that star below liberty is too much. image



    gotta love the creative process and the anomalies it yields. heh



    gratz btw



    those trueviews are still my fav. the over-exposed diffused have a purpose, just not for every coin.

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  • BodinBodin Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: LanceNewmanOCC
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    is/was conservation considered? fields appear dusty/hazy.

    gr8 coin though, obviously.

    that star below liberty is too much. image

    gotta love the creative process and the anomalies it yields. heh

    gratz btw

    those trueviews are still my fav. the over-exposed diffused have a purpose, just not for every coin.
    .


    I was thinking the exact same thing, but don't want to go to numismatic H-E-double-hockey-sticks
    I LOVE the coin as is, but I'll bet if conserved by the pros, that thing would be SCREAMING WITH CHARISMA
  • oldlinecoinsoldlinecoins Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: LanceNewmanOCC

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    is/was conservation considered? fields appear dusty/hazy.



    gr8 coin though, obviously.



    that star below liberty is too much. image



    gotta love the creative process and the anomalies it yields. heh



    gratz btw



    those trueviews are still my fav. the over-exposed diffused have a purpose, just not for every coin.

    .




    The obverse really isn't hazy but the reverse is slightly hazy. I think the pictures overexaggerate this though.



    I didn't really know you could conserve a proof coin like this made out of nickel besides just using acetone (which wouldn't get rid of the hazing). But I don't think it would be worth it if the conservation got rid of the nice natural blue toning.
  • Great Pick up!
    All the best,

    Rob

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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool coin
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a Liberty V-nickel. No wait, it's a Shield nickel! No wait, it's a nickel 3-cent piece! image
  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's awesome that you found this thing raw! Congrats on the cool acquisition!
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: LanceNewmanOCC



    ...that star below liberty is too much. image





    I agree...however someone is insistent that the stars are to be returned in one of the latest conceptions of "modern coinage";



    "The above images were recommended by the committee for use on the 2017 American Liberty High Relief Gold Coin. A U.S. Mint press release points out that Liberty is depicted wearing a crown of stars, a nod to the Statue of Freedom atop the U. S. Capitol. The eagle on the reverse is described as “bold and powerful….with eyes toward opportunity and a determination to attain it.”



    update on ccacs (March 2016) 2017 design recommendations



    I don't like the obverse myself, the reverse Eagle can stay.
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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Being that this coin is a proof,while the design is wonderful,it was obviously a design that would not strike well as evidenced by the weakness in the center of the wonderful reverse design. I would wager this is a big reason the design was not chosen.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: SeattleSlammer
    Very cool. The reverse design is terrific...they should have used it.


    Every one of these I have seen has been weakly struck through the center of the reverse, which leads me to believe that the Mint determined the design to be impractical.

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Copy Cat! image
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And it's the "No cents" varietyimage!
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool, congrats!
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin.... I like it very much.... and properly graded as well...Cheers, RickO
  • AmazonXAmazonX Posts: 680 ✭✭✭✭
    Beatiful!
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: oldlinecoins

    But I don't think it would be worth it if the conservation got rid of the nice natural blue toning.




    didnt consider this has blue toning. i figured that coloration was from the reflective fields as they can often appear bluish in images.



    must be a stunner in-hand. image

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