Taler Grades and Images from ATS

Zohar · January 27, 2016 8:42AM

These were purchased raw prior and at the NYINC. Results and images came in.

1748 FMK. Austria. Salzburg. Andreas Jakob von Dietrichstein (1747-1753) Taler. 43mm. 29.11gr. DAV-1245. Zöttl 2858. Probst-2217. Scarce issue, with a beautiful patina. As nice as they come. NGC MS-62

1741. Austrian States. Olmutz. Jakob Ernst von Liechtenstein (1738-1745) Taler. DAV-1228. Suchomel/Videman 908. The finest for the type. All come with plachet flaw at 11 O'clock. NGC MS-64

1717. Charles VI (1711-1740) Taler. DAV-1035. Lower Austria, Vienna Mint. NGC MS-64.

1868. Emperor of Austria Franz Joseph (1848-1916) Taler. 3rd German Shooting Festival. NGC MS-64

1756 IBH. GERMANY, Braunschweig-Calenberg-Hannover (Kurfürstentum und Herzogtum). Georg II. As King of Great Britain, 1727-1760. AR Taler (41mm, 29.45 g, 6h). Weisser Schawn (White Swan) Mine. Zellerfeld mint. Obv: Crowned coat-of-arms. Rev: Swan swimming left on lake; Wiesser Schawn (White Swan) mine in background. Smith 131; Welter 2568; Davenport 2097; KM 291. NGC MS-62

GERMANY, Passau (Bistum). Sede Vacante. 1762. AR Medal (44.5mm, 25.67 g, 12h). By J. C. Busch and J. L. Oexlein. Dated 1761 in Roman numerals. (rosette) MONETA CAPITULI REGNANTIS EXEMPTÆ ECCLESIÆ CATHEDRALIS PASSAVIENSIS, St. Stephan seated facing on ornate sella, wearing episcopal regalia; below, coat-of-arms in ornate frame; MDCCLXI in exergue / City view of Passau, seen in aerial perspective, with the rivers INN FLUS (Inn River), DONAU (Danube), and ILZ (Ilz) marked; PATAVIA below exergual line; fifteen crowned coats-of-arms around, star between upper two shields . Kellner 171; Zepernick 247. Lovely toning. NGC MS-62

JCMhouston · January 27, 2016 9:34AM

Love that shooting festival piece.

Jackthecat1 · January 27, 2016 10:03AM

Great historic beautiful coins. Congratulations!

Iosephus · January 27, 2016 11:14AM

All beauties! The Sede Vacante medal is very interesting.

bronzemat · January 27, 2016 11:17AM

Wonderful coins, as always Z.

lordmarcovan · January 27, 2016 3:17PM

So did NGC do the imaging? I've never used anything but their cheaper option, which was a complete waste of money. If these are NGC images, they aren't so bad at all, and... yay! No prongs! What imaging service tier did you use and how much did it cost, if I may ask?

Lovely coins, as usual. I like the colors on the second piece, the tree design on the fourth, and the swan on the fifth. They're all awesome.

coinkat · January 27, 2016 7:56PM

Terrific coins- good results

Broadstruck · January 27, 2016 9:55PM

WTG on the grades and those images are really great

brg5658 · January 27, 2016 11:02PM

All great coins (and medal) Zohar!

Just a couple quick observations:

1) The 1741 isn't a planchet flaw if it occurs on all examples at the same location at 11-o'clock. It would have to be a die problem (a die crack, or die chip of some sort). Regardless, the color in the recessed/protected areas of this one is just fantastic. I especially like the color in the hair curls and in the crest on the reverse.

2) That 1868 is superb! I absolutely love the imagery of the tree and the robed figure! Never seen that one before, and as always, you have found a great example.

3) The Weisser Schwan piece looks WAY better in these images than the ones you posted earlier. It's sharp, and the detail is super!

4) The sede vacante is a great medal. I love the amount of detail in the city scene on the reverse. They do some absolutely amazing die engraving on these.

Congrats again!

Zohar · January 27, 2016 11:47PM

Thanks everyone.

brg5658 - I will relay the general positive feedback to Doug ATS. I really like these as well and they seem better than prior run. I learned something new in your comment #1. The one coin that is exceptional and doesn't show as such is the 1717 piece. EVP and I both drooled on it at Kunker's bourse table.

The original swan image was CNG's

asheland · January 28, 2016 12:51AM

Great additions as always, Zohar!

marcmoish · January 28, 2016 12:59AM

2) That 1868 is superb! I absolutely love the imagery of the tree and the robed figure! Never seen that one before, and as always, you have found a great example.

3) The Weisser Schwan piece looks WAY better in these images than the ones you posted earlier. It's sharp, and the detail is super!

totally agreed!

These are all fantastic Z!

Like you mentioned the 1748 is tough in better grades so 62 net is what I see too based on the obverse - however the reverse had it been graded solely is a lock 64 and fantastic.

And obviously it seems you are not taking my advice to read a book or start knitting..which is a good thing as I love reading your posts!

EVillageProwler · January 28, 2016 2:14AM

Z - CNG use greyscale imaging. Not sure why. I've complained to them about it in the past. If I were to venture a guess, the original reason for this is because it makes for a smaller file size. But with disk space so cheap nowadays, that reason (if it's true) is no longer valid.

I also use Doug to image some of my coins. I ask him for the jpeg files as well as the prettied up PDF files.

Zohar · January 28, 2016 4:21AM

I agree regarding CNG. I use their descriptions and proven conservative grading to determine quality, images are far from being true view.

brg5658 · January 28, 2016 1:41PM

Who is this Doug? He does the imaging for NGC?

Zohar · January 28, 2016 1:42PM

Yes he is their in house photographer.

TwoKopeiki · January 28, 2016 10:36PM

Great coins, Zohar! Love the color.

EVillageProwler · January 29, 2016 10:55AM

Doug Plascencia used to work for B&M/ANR doing images. He lost his job when they merged with Stacks, and Dave Lange offered him a job with NGC. Doug's a good guy. Dave too. I was very pleased with the turnaround. NGC really needed a good coin photog, and Doug was available.

Taler Grades and Images from ATS

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