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SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
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... I've been meaning to write to you for years. You just haven't been honest with me and I can't take it anymore. Please stop the charade. I mean in all seriousness you look like you're lit from within by white light. That's not natural. You look like a caricature of your true self. Don't get me wrong, you always look good...too good. You never have a bad hair day. Your cheek looks smooth as a baby's bottom even though I know it's pockmarked. Your fields look smooth and glassy but I know that they're scratched and littered with dirt. You always insist on showing me that "just so" tilt that makes your imperfections melt away. But they're just glossed over. It's not real. Please stop parading around like a better version of yourself. Just the other day I saw your sister, in-hand, and everyone knows that she's super clean, a real gem, yet somehow the two of you look like twins? Don't be ashamed. Deep down you've got real character. I just want to see the real you.

Sincerely,

SeattleSlammer

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post.

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If only coins could talk....
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  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭

    Slammer: Don't get me wrong, you always look good...too good. You never have a bad hair day. Your cheek looks smooth as a baby's bottom even though I know it's pockmarked. Your fields look smooth and glassy but I know that they're scratched and littered with dirt. You always insist on showing me that "just so" tilt that makes your imperfections melt away. But they're just glossed over. It's not real.



    The original post is brilliant. I wish I had discussed such issues so elegantly.



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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Analyst

    Slammer: Don't get me wrong, you always look good...too good. You never have a bad hair day. Your cheek looks smooth as a baby's bottom even though I know it's pockmarked. Your fields look smooth and glassy but I know that they're scratched and littered with dirt. You always insist on showing me that "just so" tilt that makes your imperfections melt away. But they're just glossed over. It's not real.


    The original post is brilliant. I wish I had discussed such issues so elegantly.


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  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been on a campaign for some 15-20 years now, that you should never trust a photograph. Ever since Photoshop 4, I think.



    It is so very easy to convincingly manipulate an image now. You just need to know how to use the tools.



    (It was a lot harder when I was in the darkroom, but it even went on when photography was analog...)
  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So true. I find it particularly ridiculous when the description says something like "A mark to the right of Liberty's head is grade-limiting." And the mark is not visible in the image.

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And the above is why many, if not most collectors are male (and single)!
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Excellent!
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yup. I returned a coin this week (my second or third return ever, I think) because I took a chance on a glamour shot. Another photo from the dealer was available too, but I thought (hoped?) it was over-emphasizing the hits & luster breaks. It turns out the photo with the flaws was more true to the in-hand appearance.



    So much better to buy at shows........
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I see one glamor shot from a seller I automatically assume everything else is glamorized and not to be trusted.



    If Heritage didn't have slab photos I'd never bid on another coin.

    Lance.
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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,021 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought maybe someone here did have the call-sign "glamourshot".



    I too have been taken in by some marvelous imagery only to return the coin in disgust of what lies beyond the shadows.
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  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671 ✭
    Great post.
  • hickoryridgehickoryridge Posts: 260 ✭✭✭
    Good one !
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glamour shots of coins are much like looking at the centerfold of playboy... WOW... but in hand,

    hmmmm Cheers, RickO
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ricko
    Glamour shots of coins are much like looking at the centerfold of playboy... WOW... but in hand,
    hmmmm Cheers, RickO



    Sadly I'm gonna have to take your word for that.
  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ricko
    Glamour shots of coins are much like looking at the centerfold of playboy... WOW... but in hand,
    hmmmm Cheers, RickO


    This is wrong on so many different levels image
  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glamour shots can indeed be misleading, and I have returned a number of coins that were clearly mirepresented in that manner. I find it funny that I have bought coins with lousy pics solely based upon the grade and have been very pleasantly surprised when I viewed the coin in hand.

    OINK
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    David, could glamour shots be considered money shots also? Nice little piece.
  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: SeattleSlammer
    ... I've been meaning to write to you for years. You just haven't been honest with me and I can't take it anymore. Please stop the charade. I mean in all seriousness you look like you're lit from within by white light. That's not natural. You look like a caricature of your true self. Don't get me wrong, you always look good...too good. You never have a bad hair day. Your cheek looks smooth as a baby's bottom even though I know it's pockmarked. Your fields look smooth and glassy but I know that they're scratched and littered with dirt. You always insist on showing me that "just so" tilt that makes your imperfections melt away. But they're just glossed over. It's not real. Please stop parading around like a better version of yourself. Just the other day I saw your sister, in-hand, and everyone knows that she's super clean, a real gem, yet somehow the two of you look like twins? Don't be ashamed. Deep down you've got real character. I just want to see the real you.

    Sincerely,

    SeattleSlammer





    Not real sure what you mean. Capturing the beauty of even fugly coins is something worth pursuing. Every coin has its beauty, it is up to the photographer to see it, and the skills to record it. A coin can look bland in one angle in the light and look like Miss America in another....... So can you show us examples?




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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think nice photos are fine to enjoy coins, however, there can be issues if one relies on them for sight unseen purchases.
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  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭
    Meant to ask, what do you consider a glamour shot? Do you have an example? Want to make sure it is what I'm thinking you mean...
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: mercurydimeguy
    Meant to ask, what do you consider a glamour shot? Do you have an example? Want to make sure it is what I'm thinking you mean...



    Like this ...
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  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: SeattleSlammer
    Originally posted by: mercurydimeguy
    Meant to ask, what do you consider a glamour shot? Do you have an example? Want to make sure it is what I'm thinking you mean...



    Like this ...

    Point made, thank you image

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