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coinsarefun · December 4, 2015 4:32PM

Well, I'll give it a try and start the thread this weekend as I took a few new
images of some older electrotypes I have.

DUIGUY · December 4, 2015 5:10PM

erwindoc · December 4, 2015 9:32PM

Nice stuff!!!

Broadstruck · December 4, 2015 10:40PM

Here's a first look at a token I was thrilled to acquire last year which has only been seen by a few collectors since issued... Enjoy!

A Mule of a 1845 Brown, Curtiss, & Vance, Louisville, KY, and 1851 C.W. Jackson, Coal Dealer, Philadelphia, PA, Merchant Store Cards, 28mm Diameter, Copper, Plain Edge, Miller-KY-3.

This KY/PA mule is the rarest of the Parrot Head eagle Brown, Curtiss, & Vance varieties which was unknown to Benjamin Wright however Donald Miller already valued it at nearly 2 ounces of gold in 1962. It is unique as the only known example which has never been plated in any reference guide. The normal Brown, Curtiss, & Vance store card is quite scarce in high grades as are most southern issues. Russell Rulau with all his exonumia connections was unable to locate a example to plate and used Wayte Raymond's 1940 line drawings for the basic non mule variety. This Miller-KY-3 U.S. Merchant Store Card is a mule of a 28mm Obverse Die 1845-50 Brown, Curtiss, & Vance, Dealer in Dry Goods, Louisville, KY token and 28mm Diameter Obverse Die 1851 C.W. Jackson Philadelphia, Coal Dealer, Miller PA-234 on the reverse. With both being over 700 miles apart from one another this token served no purpose as a store advertising card for either merchant. This mule is an intentionally commissioned fantasy strike which was made to order at the request of a token collector. This practice was quite common with the likes of Levick, Bushnell and others to own something unique and create rarities within the series.

silverpop · December 4, 2015 11:08PM

1Mike1 · December 4, 2015 11:48PM

ricko · December 5, 2015 2:35AM

Stef.... awesome photography of great specimens... DUIGuy.... really nice stuff...

Cheers, RickO

johnny9434 · December 5, 2015 2:42AM

nice tokens duiguy, thats pretty darned good

MonsterCoinz · December 5, 2015 3:10AM

DCW · December 5, 2015 3:13AM

Broadstruck never ceases to amaze. Great token, Frank!

If it was valued at 2 ounces of gold in 1962, what do you think it would bring in today's market?

Broadstruck · December 5, 2015 4:07AM

DCW, Thanks!

Well there's a lot of exonumia that would be worth more than a couple ounces of gold today had there been more reference publications. There was nothing written from 1962 until Russell Rulau touched upon it in the late 1980's. For very rare issues if Rulau couldn't find a auction price realized he would just use Donald Miller's old 1962 price and continued using the same through all his updated revisions. Which means you can use the book value price as kindling on a cold winter day as it's doesn't determine market value. The Lovett Smokers for example Rulau books at $40 in UNC 11 years ago and they have been selling for upwards of $6K for a couple years now. My mule posted is unique compared to the Lovett Smokers but would never sell for as much since the pictorial design doesn't have the same pot head following

Mark · December 5, 2015 4:30AM

Broadstruck:

Too darn bad for the value of your token that people do not smoke parrot feathers. Regardless, what an amazing token. Incredibly cool.

Broadstruck · December 5, 2015 4:35AM

Originally posted by: Mark

Broadstruck:

Too darn bad for the value of your token that people do not smoke parrot feathers. Regardless, what an amazing token. Incredibly cool.

Mark, Thanks your response really had me laughing out loud

copperhunter · December 6, 2015 2:09AM

It's Sunday Morning guys. This thread should not be on page 3:

1915 PCGS MS 64 BN

1914-S PCGS MS 62 BN (really?)

1931-D PCGS MS 64 BN (Glossy luster and great toning!)

1936 FS-103 DDO PCGS MS 63 RB (Love the color on this)

bolivarshagnasty · December 6, 2015 2:46AM

From a 2005-S Silver Proof set. Just received TV's on Friday.

OldIndianNutKase · December 6, 2015 3:51AM

Was winning bidder on this one at the Houston show:

PR67BN

OINK

CoinZip · December 6, 2015 5:34AM

Desert Moon · December 6, 2015 5:40AM

1Mike1 · December 6, 2015 7:35AM

lasvegasteddy · December 6, 2015 8:10AM

david3142 · December 6, 2015 8:59AM

Holy crap, that 1901 Indian is awesome! What does it grade, LVT?

lasvegasteddy · December 6, 2015 9:01AM

it's raw and with fingers crossed it lands MS but i suspect it might just AU on me

just so long as it can straight grade i'll be happy especially sporting a trueview

Walkerguy21D · December 6, 2015 10:45AM

Very cool toning on that 1901 IHC!

CalGold · December 6, 2015 2:57PM

I suspect that the grading fees on the 1901 IHC would have been better spent on Powerball tickets.

CG

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