Attn. Dealers - Fraud Alert Winter Haven, FL * 10/23 update*
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Dealers, if you receive any orders from someone located on 16th Street NW in Winter Haven, FL, please do NOT ship without contacting us first. We have more investigating to do, but it appears this person closed his bank account or sent us a bogus check to pay for a gold coin.
Edited to add:
Turns out the check is bogus and the account number does not exist. The check definitely looked good and all the security measures checked out. Still, we waited five business days before shipping the coin. On the SIXTH day, our bank informs us the check is no good. Fortunately, we shipped it via Registered Mail and the coin has not been delivered yet. Our post office is working with the destination post office and it looks like we will be able to retrieve the package. Unfortunately, we know of at least one other dealer who got scammed by this guy and their coin has already been delivered.
Here is this loser's complete contact info:
Thomas Harvey
1887 16th Street NW
Winter Haven, FL 33881
polkboatrentals@aol.com
863.399.7496
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Edited to add:
Turns out the check is bogus and the account number does not exist. The check definitely looked good and all the security measures checked out. Still, we waited five business days before shipping the coin. On the SIXTH day, our bank informs us the check is no good. Fortunately, we shipped it via Registered Mail and the coin has not been delivered yet. Our post office is working with the destination post office and it looks like we will be able to retrieve the package. Unfortunately, we know of at least one other dealer who got scammed by this guy and their coin has already been delivered.
Here is this loser's complete contact info:
Thomas Harvey
1887 16th Street NW
Winter Haven, FL 33881
polkboatrentals@aol.com
863.399.7496
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This type of notice is an excellent use of the forum... hope it saves some members
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want to hear if they actually follow through, intercept the
package and send it back to you. I am guessing their
interest in helping you will be if there is a police report and if this
falls into the realm of mail fraud of sorts...or using the mail system
to commit fraud? Thanks!
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
I wish the Post Office in FL would do sort of a sting operation where they attempt to deliver the Registered package and catch the scum bucket in the act. I know this would take coordination from multiple G'ment departments on short notice, but it may be worth a try. In reality, it probably isn't a top priority at all for them to try to catch someone like this for fraud.
Something doesn't add up .. if account bogus, then check would have bounced .and returned to depositor
Is calling bank to verify account and balance still allowed ?
Something doesn't add up .. if account bogus, then check would have bounced .and returned to depositor
It did bounce, but too late.
BHNC #203
It did bounce, but too late.
Boingo, Boingo.
So much for paper / check transactions.
It just gets worse.
Sorry for your loss.
Please do update us as to the outcome with the Post Office. I
want to hear if they actually follow through, intercept the
package and send it back to you. I am guessing their
interest in helping you will be if there is a police report and if this
falls into the realm of mail fraud of sorts...or using the mail system
to commit fraud? Thanks!
USPS Mail Intercept
Velocity, Not Valuation Defines A Bubble.
I wish the Post Office in FL would do sort of a sting operation where they attempt to deliver the Registered package and catch the scum bucket in the act. I know this would take coordination from multiple G'ment departments on short notice, but it may be worth a try. In reality, it probably isn't a top priority at all for them to try to catch someone like this for fraud.
NM. I guess I figured it out.
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Out for Delivery WINTER HAVEN, FL 33881 October 23, 2015 9:30 am
Sorting Complete WINTER HAVEN, FL 33881 October 23, 2015 8:52 am
Arrived at Unit WINTER HAVEN, FL 33881 October 23, 2015 6:18 am
Arrived at USPS Facility TAMPA, FL 33630 October 22, 2015 3:38 pm
Arrived at USPS Facility BOSTON, MA 02110 October 21, 2015 2:45 am
Arrived at USPS Facility BOSTON, MA 02205 October 21, 2015 12:42 am
Departed USPS Facility SHREWSBURY, MA 01546 October 16, 2015 9:21 pm
Arrived at USPS Origin Facility SHREWSBURY, MA 01546 October 16, 2015 8:58 pm
Departed Post Office CONCORD, MA 01742 October 16, 2015 5:03 pm
Acceptance CONCORD, MA 01742 October 16, 2015 4:08 pm
As soon as our shipping manager came in today, she contacted the Winter Haven post office and GOOD NEWS - the postmaster literally had the package in his hand. He read off the return address to us and said he was sending it back today.
BAD NEWS - this guy still got away with mail and bank fraud. The USPS folks did the right thing by helping us retrieve the package. But they do not seem to be interested at all in pursuing this any further than that.
Again, too bad the authorities don't want to mess with trying to catch this scumbucket. Too piddly a crime I guess.
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
Shipment Activity Location Date & Time
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Return to Sender WINTER HAVEN, FL 33884 October 23, 2015 5:03 pm
Out for Delivery WINTER HAVEN, FL 33881 October 23, 2015 9:30 am
Sorting Complete WINTER HAVEN, FL 33881 October 23, 2015 8:52 am
Arrived at Unit WINTER HAVEN, FL 33881 October 23, 2015 6:18 am
Arrived at USPS Facility TAMPA, FL 33630 October 22, 2015 3:38 pm
Arrived at USPS Facility BOSTON, MA 02110 October 21, 2015 2:45 am
Arrived at USPS Facility BOSTON, MA 02205 October 21, 2015 12:42 am
Departed USPS Facility SHREWSBURY, MA 01546 October 16, 2015 9:21 pm
Arrived at USPS Origin Facility SHREWSBURY, MA 01546 October 16, 2015 8:58 pm
Departed Post Office CONCORD, MA 01742 October 16, 2015 5:03 pm
Acceptance CONCORD, MA 01742 October 16, 2015 4:08 pm
Could have easily been much worse!
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
This is more like it!!!
Shipment Activity Location Date & Time
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Return to Sender WINTER HAVEN, FL 33884 October 23, 2015 5:03 pm
Out for Delivery WINTER HAVEN, FL 33881 October 23, 2015 9:30 am
Sorting Complete WINTER HAVEN, FL 33881 October 23, 2015 8:52 am
Arrived at Unit WINTER HAVEN, FL 33881 October 23, 2015 6:18 am
Arrived at USPS Facility TAMPA, FL 33630 October 22, 2015 3:38 pm
Arrived at USPS Facility BOSTON, MA 02110 October 21, 2015 2:45 am
Arrived at USPS Facility BOSTON, MA 02205 October 21, 2015 12:42 am
Departed USPS Facility SHREWSBURY, MA 01546 October 16, 2015 9:21 pm
Arrived at USPS Origin Facility SHREWSBURY, MA 01546 October 16, 2015 8:58 pm
Departed Post Office CONCORD, MA 01742 October 16, 2015 5:03 pm
Acceptance CONCORD, MA 01742 October 16, 2015 4:08 pm
Just curious, did the scammer have the tracking number? I'm wondering if he woke up this morning believing it was going to be delivered only later to see that it was being returned to sender. Or did you previously tell the scammer that you were having the package returned?
So, after receiving the updated info above, I figured we were screwed. I (understandably) assumed that despite the communication between the Concord and Winter Haven post offices about the situation, someone still dropped the ball and let the package go.
As soon as our shipping manager came in today, she contacted the Winter Haven post office and GOOD NEWS - the postmaster literally had the package in his hand. He read off the return address to us and said he was sending it back today.
BAD NEWS - this guy still got away with mail and bank fraud. The USPS folks did the right thing by helping us retrieve the package. But they do not seem to be interested at all in pursuing this any further than that.
The Feds don't get invovled unless there are multiple victims and the amount exceeds $25,000. There is enough of that to keep them busy.
Yes, the scammer did have the tracking number. I hope he waited home all day for that package. Loser.
As for posting on Facebook, that might not be the same guy. I think it would be impossible to determine for sure unless he were to crazily post his exact address or mention something coin related.