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Why Should I Have To Delete More Than 6,000 PM's Before I Can Send One??

wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

Please fix ASAP by allowing 100,000 PM's (not 50,000).

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm nearly 20K over so do I need to delete before I can even receive one?

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is this part of the 'new' format? Cheers, RickO
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is this part of the new format? Or was there a limit on the former software? Cheers, RickO

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100,000 PM's?

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • Booger9989Booger9989 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭
    thats a large amount of pm's but I can see why with all the business you do on the forum. Hopefully they fix it and allow you to keep them. I know on another forum I am on the mods have the ability to change the size on your mailbox.
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  • Booger9989Booger9989 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭
    thats a large amount of pm's but I can see why with all the business you do on the forum. Hopefully they fix it and allow you to keep them. I know on another forum I am on the mods have the ability to change the size on your mailbox.
    Positive BST Deals as a seller : Wondercoin, Chumlee, Jerster, Perry Hall , DMarks, MWK, drewsef, SoCalBigMark, Lakesammman, Nurmaler
  • Booger9989Booger9989 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭
    thats a large amount of pm's but I can see why with all the business you do on the forum. Hopefully they fix it and allow you to keep them. I know on another forum I am on the mods have the ability to change the size on your mailbox.
    Positive BST Deals as a seller : Wondercoin, Chumlee, Jerster, Perry Hall , DMarks, MWK, drewsef, SoCalBigMark, Lakesammman, Nurmaler
  • Booger9989Booger9989 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭
    YIKES! I keep getting an error that is why I have so many double post. Sorry
    Positive BST Deals as a seller : Wondercoin, Chumlee, Jerster, Perry Hall , DMarks, MWK, drewsef, SoCalBigMark, Lakesammman, Nurmaler
  • coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭
    At risk of sounding ridiculous, how does one actually REPLY to a PM now?
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You would have died last night when the cap was initially only 50 messages. image

    I would delete anything over 7-10 years old except for very important messages. A 100k message limit would only tax PCGS servers for additional storage.

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look, the fact is I have been around here since 2001 and should not have to delete 6,000+ messages to be able to write a new message on this forum today. I plan to discuss this with PCGS during business hours next week. In the meantime, anyone who would like me to respond to their messages, please make sure I have your email address as that is the only way we can communicate today. Thanks. Wondercoin.

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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭

    Delete PMs? This is disastrous!!

    If i go with the suggestion to delete the oldest PMs, much would be lost.

    This would delete all correspondence during our charitable efforts concerning the 9/11/2001 Firefighters' Widow's and Children's Fund where over $60,000 was raised on this message board alone.

    Without question, the limit should be raised to accommodate the board members who have been here the longest.

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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sure, Fadetoblack, with no notice this was even happening, I'll drop everything today to begin to read 56,000 messages spanning 14 years to pick the 6,000 I no longer care much about, while deleting even more as new messages come in today and tomorrow. I have nothing better to do with my Sunday. No problem. image

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  • coinguy1989coinguy1989 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭

    This isn't meant to be snarky, but if you haven't looked at a PM in 10-14 years, I think it is safe to say that it won't be missed. You see who the sender is so if there are any potential PMs that would have sentimental value, you can easily save those.

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coinguy1989... Who said I do not look at PMs from 5 or 10 years ago? Every time I do a deal with a board member or get a PM from another board member (which happens quite often) asking me if I can let them know if it is OK to do business with "so and so" , I review my PM history first. Wondercoin

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  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    While I am not a computer person I would assume it takes storage space to keep them. Looks like you would want them backed up just in case in another folder using your storage.



    If you ( general here) get banned can you access your pm's or do you lose them?
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  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭✭

    Originally posted by: cameonut2011 You would have died last night when the cap was initially only 50 messages. image I would delete anything over 7-10 years old except for very important messages. A 100k message limit would only tax PCGS servers for additional storage.

    Storage is one of the cheapeast commodities since like, forever ago.

  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    While I am not a computer person I would assume it takes storage space to keep them. Looks like you would want them backed up just in case in another folder using your storage.



    If you ( general here) get banned can you access your pm's or do you lose them?
    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have been here for just over 5 years and am closing in on 17K PMs. So, I can certainly see someone that is here for close to 15 years and very active that they would be over 50K. Prior to the old site being shut down, I downloaded (exported) all of my message history yesterday morning, just in case. It is not so much that I haven't read something in 5 years or whatever but if I want to search for an email address or phone number or any other topic...I can. That is the importance of having the information, being able to search the data...not so that you can go back and read every message ever sent or received.

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Originally posted by: pennyannie While I am not a computer person I would assume it takes storage space to keep them. Looks like you would want them backed up just in case in another folder using your storage. If you ( general here) get banned can you access your pm's or do you lose them?
    If banned, you can still read PMs, receive PMs...you just can't send anything. You can of course export the data so that you can load it into your own database that you design if you like as well. Storage systems for text is miniscule and that is all PMs are.
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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  • coinguy1989coinguy1989 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭

    Originally posted by: wondercoin Coinguy1989... Who said I do not look at PMs from 5 or 10 years ago? Every time I do a deal with a board member or get a PM from another board member (which happens quite often) asking me if I can let them know if it is OK to do business with "so and so" , I review my PM history first. Wondercoin


    I assume that most people keep a separate list of positive references. And insofar as transactions 10 years ago, those strike me as being a poor assessment of a poster's current bona fides. Posters can change. Unless truly horrendous (in which case you would tend not to forget those anyway), I don't see 10 year old data as being useful. In terms of sales, you are also beyond the IRS statute of limitations, so I can't see a need for those either for tax/audit purposes. I can see saving sentimental and informative PMs, but 10 years ago strikes me as long past the point of being useful except in very rare cases.


    Nevertheless, your comment does give me a greater appreciation for your position.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Originally posted by: keyman64
    Originally posted by: pennyannie While I am not a computer person I would assume it takes storage space to keep them. Looks like you would want them backed up just in case in another folder using your storage. If you ( general here) get banned can you access your pm's or do you lose them?
    If banned, you can still read PMs, receive PMs...you just can't send anything. You can of course export the data so that you can load it into your own database that you design if you like as well. Storage systems for text is miniscule and that is all PMs are.

    Have you figured out how to do this under the new system? If so, I would be grateful if you would provide instructions. I would like to archive my PMs at least once a year.

  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I need to delete 6000 before I can send one. Dang.



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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Oh boy
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I certainly understand the issue here. I can't copy and paste in a message box or even delete and repair errors!!!!!!!!!!!!!OOOOOOooooowwwwwWWWW.I was gonna say I empathize with the issue and wouldn't want to have to delete any of my PM's. ...but ouch. Watch for lots of errors in all my short posts and fewer posts I guess.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It doesn't format correctly and enterring the last post kickjed me off the site.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Test
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  • Originally posted by: keyman64
    Originally posted by: pennyannie While I am not a computer person I would assume it takes storage space to keep them. Looks like you would want them backed up just in case in another folder using your storage. If you ( general here) get banned can you access your pm's or do you lose them?
    If banned, you can still read PMs, receive PMs...you just can't send anything. You can of course export the data so that you can load it into your own database that you design if you like as well. Storage systems for text is miniscule and that is all PMs are.

    If you are banned you can not log in to the system so no you can not read your private msgs.

    To those that are having issues with msg capacity why not just pick one of the cloud storage systems as many give you free space such as google and transfer the msgs there. This would give you the ability to organize them and access them anywhere any time with out haveing to be loged in to the forum. This would also save all your info should you get baned or if there is a system problem and PCGS has to purge the system for security reasons.

  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,753 ✭✭✭
    Does the new system allow you to migrate you messages to another email server like Google or maybe the administrator has a way of saving all your messages on a UBS drive.
  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am not sure why one thinks it is necessary to retain 50-100K private messages. This is PCGS's storage space and bandwith that they provide for free.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Originally posted by: pf70collector Does the new system allow you to migrate you messages to another email server like Google or maybe the administrator has a way of saving all your messages on a UBS drive.

    About a third of the way down the PM page is a horizontal menu bar with one choice being to export private messages. No idea where they go to.

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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭

    Originally posted by: BAJJERFAN
    Originally posted by: pf70collector Does the new system allow you to migrate you messages to another email server like Google or maybe the administrator has a way of saving all your messages on a UBS drive.
    About a third of the way down the PM page is a horizontal menu bar with one choice being to export private messages. No idea where they go to.

    It generates a single, large web page. You can save it to your local computer then search the file with control+f if you want to find PM's from a specific person.

  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They still have the export option. You should be able to download and keep all of your messages. I am sure you can find a service who would be happy to do this for you.



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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you RYK. image
  • robecrobec Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I decided to try out the export PM function to see how it works. There are a few options that include exporting a date range or exporting all.

    Finding the Export option is simple. Choose Private Messages, located on the upper top of the left sidebar.

    This opens the PM page. To export Private Messages, click on that option located in the black menu bar.

    This will open the Export PM page. The options are pretty straight forward. I chose Export all and clicked on Export at the bottom.

    I didn't know where all these PM's would be exported to. I was surprised to see them exported into a new tab on my browser (Safari). I'm not sure if the export will be the same with other browsers, but I am assuming they will.

    To get them to my desktop or computer I found a couple of options. I my Safari File menu there was an option to Export as PDF and another to Save As.

    Export as PDF worked well except for on major drawback. All messages and photos were there, but because the page was so wide none of the dates and participants of the PMs was shown. I'm not sure how to resolve the wide page problem.

    The Save As option worked best. All messages and photos along with dates, times and participants were included. The only problem was there was no apparent order of the messages being exported. It wasn't chronological nor alphabetical. But they were all there.

    The Export as PDF puts a large file where ever you choose as its destination. My PM's were considerably less than Wondercoins, 6000+ vs. 56,000+, but the file size was still 226 Mb. Still small by todays standards.

    The Save As file is a web archive file that opens up in your web browser. This file is also saved where ever you choose on your hard drive. The size of this file is 233.5 Mb. Wondercoins file size would probably be closer to 2 Gb.

  • We've updated the cap to 125,000 to accomodate the largest mailboxes. There were 5 mailboxes over 50k with a few more close to that number.

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you so much John! That should hold me for another 15 years!!

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Originally posted by: wondercoin Coinguy1989... Who said I do not look at PMs from 5 or 10 years ago? Every time I do a deal with a board member or get a PM from another board member (which happens quite often) asking me if I can let them know if it is OK to do business with "so and so" , I review my PM history first. Wondercoin
    Now not trying to be a Richard but maybe you should start a file on your computer just in case they do wipe your PM's out.


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  • Just a suggestion to save all your PM's to your computer...



    1. Click EXPORT PRIVATE MESSAGES

    2. A prompt should appear, simply press the EXPORT button

    3. A new page should open up on your browser, it should have ALL of your PM's

    4. On the newly opened page, right click and select VIEW PAGE SOURCE

    5. Another new page should open up showing the webpage's code, press CTRL + A to select all the code, then press CTRL + C to copy it all

    5. Open notepad on your PC

    6. On notepad press CTRL + V to paste all that code

    7. Hit CTRL + S to save, save it where ever you desire, but you must make sure that when typing the file name you add .html to end of it, for example, myfile.html, and you must make sure you select All Files in the Save as type box.



    This shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to do image
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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good call PCGS on fixing that small problem. Thank you.

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2017 5:57PM

    No use for PMs from years ago? Actually, when I've gone back and checked them I'm surprised at what key information I wrote in detail at the time that I completely forgot...or somehow came up with a different course of events today. It's nice to have the original record to go back to in order to retain accuracy. And there are some detailed analysis I did via PMs over the years that would be nice to go back to.

    However, with the new system you have to first find the last PM by any specific person to be able to then go back to earlier posted ones. For example if my last PM to someone was several years ago, I have to flip back through dozens (or even a hundred pages in the case of Wondercoin) to get there. And you have to do that every time you want to find an older PM. Very tedious.

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  • justcollectingjustcollecting Posts: 195 ✭✭✭

    Do you guys realize that this thread was from 2015, I can count my pm's on one hand. I don't know if any carried over with the new software.

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2017 6:08PM

    I have 15,000+ PMs and I'm sure there are dozens of people with more than that. I have over 1,000 PMs with a couple of individuals. I should haven't to flip back through 50 pages to find a PM from someone I haven't touched base with for 3-5 years. Part of that is because I'm nowhere near prolific in posting as I was 10 years ago. My entire coin being of the past 30 years is probably summed up in those PMs...with juicy details that I've mostly forgotten, not by choice, but by age.

    With the old system you could run down any old PM as long as you knew who sent it and what approximate Month/Year....it would take no more than a minute or two. The old ones are still back there as I just reviewed some from 2003 with CoinLieutenant. There's a ton of great information back from the period of 2002-2011 when I was hammering out PMs and posts. Hate to see it all go away. It would be nice if I could type in a user name, or hit their ICON on a thread and then bring up all their PMs with me.

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  • rte592rte592 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And your wife called requesting you clean up around the house too.

  • chumleychumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭

    with that much traffic.... you warrant your own internet lane!!

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