Proof 1851 -O 3 Cent Silver ?
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Stack's had an 1851-O 3 Cent Silver described as Brilliant Proof as lot 482 of their 1976 ANA Auction. It brought $7500 ( The 1976 Red book listed UNC. as $185 ) which meant it had to be very special. It was described as " Full glittering surfaces and a two-tone appearance overall. They also state that they had handled 3 in the past 25 years. Breen said in his Proof book that he had not seen the piece.
There was also one in the 1985 GNA Sale by Mid-American Rare Coin Auctions lot 167. It was listed as Choice Proof ( 63/63 ) and described as " Both sides exhibit full Proof surfaces and a needle-sharp strike. Previously lot 245 of their September,1984 San Diego Sale ". Price realized unknown.
PCGS has not slabbed any. I know that they are very reluctant to slab branch mint Proofs. NGC has not slabbed any either but have slabbed 3 in Prooflike ( a 63,a 64 and a 65 ).
Does anyone have any addition information on these coins?
There was also one in the 1985 GNA Sale by Mid-American Rare Coin Auctions lot 167. It was listed as Choice Proof ( 63/63 ) and described as " Both sides exhibit full Proof surfaces and a needle-sharp strike. Previously lot 245 of their September,1984 San Diego Sale ". Price realized unknown.
PCGS has not slabbed any. I know that they are very reluctant to slab branch mint Proofs. NGC has not slabbed any either but have slabbed 3 in Prooflike ( a 63,a 64 and a 65 ).
Does anyone have any addition information on these coins?
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<< <i>What would be the occasion to produce a specimen trime in New Orleans in 1851? >>
The beginning of a new type.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
May-1995 $22,000 MS NONE Stack's Milas, Shasky, Chesapeake, & Weller 49 Possible Proof (possible Proof)
Oct-2003 $7,475 PR NONE Stack's 68th Anniversary Sale/Rothschild 1121
Unfortunately no photos linked.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9C04E2DB163AEF33A25751C0A96F9C94629FD7CFlink
<< <i>Interesting article about the 3 cent piece from the New York Times in 1883.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9C04E2DB163AEF33A25751C0A96F9C94629FD7CFlink >>
Interesting article.
The photo from the 1976 ANA catalog gives the "impression" the trime is not fully struck. The New Orleans mint wasn't striking very many silver coins in 1850-1852 either, even less reason to make a specimen. And 1851 was the only year the NO mint struck trimes. 1851 New Orleans seated coins generally don't come fully struck. About the only ones that you sometimes see sharply struck are the halves. I owned one once (MS63 semi-PL, in very high relief, almost of specimen detail, but signs of rusted dies). Half dimes, dimes, and quarters generally all fall well short.
YosClimber: <<Oct-2003 $7,475 PR NONE Stack's 68th Anniversary Sale/Rothschild 1121>>
It should not be surprising to any of us that YosClimber continually shows himself to be an astute researcher. Yes, it is believed that this is the same 1851-O that was sold in 1976. I saw it in 2003. It is not a Proof, IMO.
Jon: <<A very rare coin indeed and I know where one is hiding.
Is there any chance that Jon is thinking of the Eliasberg 1851 Philadelphia Mint Trime?
I wrote an article about it. For a few reasons, I cannot summarize this article in a post to this forum. Please read:
The Most Valuable Three Cent Silver
Curiously, the Carter-Lustig-Cardinal-Morelan 1794 dollar is a little bit relevant to the Eliasberg 1851 Philly Mint coin, not to the 1851-O mentioned in the OP. Special kinds of die finishing work relate to the status of a coin.
Incredible Carter 1794 silver dollar
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