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Ok heres one error coin that had some help in making a cent on nail and leaving the mint as well.


A person was convicted in 1981 for making this one at West Point Mint facility

Dont know why this one got an authentic label cent on nail

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  • << <i>Ok heres one error coin that had some help in making a cent on nail and leaving the mint as well.

    Cent on Nail

    A person was convicted in 1981 for making this one at West Point Mint facility

    Dont know why this one got an authentic label >>



    I think this fixes the link for you.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭✭
    Thank you for fixing link
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • Graded too.

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    That's pretty cool, but I think PCGS got it wrong.

    It looks like a MS64 nail to me.
  • Curious, is that a common brad or casing nail?
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FWIW, my mentor in errors, Ed Fleischmann of Coin World's Collectors Clearinghouse, told me a story about how, not long after the first cents on nails appeared among great skepticism, he happened to be on the floor of one of the Mints (probably Denver during an ANA Summer Seminar tour but I can't swear to that) and saw a thin nail sitting on a coining press!

    He asked the press operator what it was for, and the press operator said that when the feed tube clogged he used the nail to clear the feed tube, which had a slot down the side for this very purpose!

    So, although a cent strike on a nail is very unlikely, there does exist the chance that at least one such strike was a legitimate random error.

    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,885 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, that '43 cent on a dime planchet that the seller also has is megacool.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    now looking through that inventory was fun!

    some of it mangled, none of it trash, imo.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Had that come up while searching eBay this morning. Cool but don't float my boat.

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I sold another PCGS Nail at the ANA last month.

    In 1977, a half-dozen (Cent) pieces appeared at a large
    New York coin show - from the West Point Depository.

    I bought them all - they're now slowly appearing on the
    market.

    Also, around 2000/2001, a few pieces on cents and dimes
    came out of the Philadelphia Mint.

    As far as I know, only one of any of these has a date -
    a Nail with just the '1977' date showing on the nail.

    NGC is certifying them too.
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's just hope the Chinese counterfeiters don't catch this thread.
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Andy, if the Chinese counterfeit 'em, they'll
    strike them on screws, not nails....

    This way, they'll finally be able to directly
    give us the message they've been indirectly
    giving us for over 10 years - SCREW YOU Americans!
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Andy, if the Chinese counterfeit 'em, they'll
    strike them on screws, not nails....

    This way, they'll finally be able to directly
    give us the message they've been indirectly
    giving us for over 10 years - SCREW YOU Americans! >>

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As we sit at home because their President is closing the freeways today running around town.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ok heres one error coin that had some help in making a cent on nail and leaving the mint as well.


    A person was convicted in 1981 for making this one at West Point Mint facility

    Dont know why this one got an authentic label cent on nail >>


    Good Question!

    After all, the coin is counterfeit and an unauthorized issue. No motto, no date, no UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Graded too. >>

    Thank Goodness it's an MS63!! image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Andy, if the Chinese counterfeit 'em, they'll
    strike them on screws, not nails....

    This way, they'll finally be able to directly
    give us the message they've been indirectly
    giving us for over 10 years - SCREW YOU Americans! >>

    Where's the LIKE Button??
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,246 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Andy, if the Chinese counterfeit 'em, they'll
    strike them on screws, not nails....

    This way, they'll finally be able to directly
    give us the message they've been indirectly
    giving us for over 10 years - SCREW YOU Americans! >>

    lmao, ayup
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This thread reminds me of this one I posted some years ago with a 1982 cent struck through a 6mm bolt. (I will try to find the pictures and upload them again this evening.) The impression of the bolt including the threads was clear on the cent, which also means that somewhere there exists a flattened bolt with the obverse of a Lincoln cent struck into it.

    I sold my coin a couple of years after that post to someone who submitted it to PCGS without any supporting documentation or pictures, and they sent it back in a body bag as post mint damage. I took a return from him and sold it raw to another collector on the boards. I wold love to know if he ever tried to get it into PCGS plastic again, between the photos and expert opinions on that thread I think there was enough evidence there to get it holdered.


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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After all, the coin is counterfeit and an unauthorized issue. No motto, no date, no UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

    If it was made from authentic dies at a US Mint, you can't possibly call it a counterfeit. Unauthorized, most probably, but not counterfeit.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, as for the grade, they nailed it!
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That thing is HAMMERED!
  • The reason I asked earlier what type of nail was because I have worked years in Aerospace/machine shop/robotics atmosphere and have seen things like "CaptHenway" is talking about below: "I agree"


    FWIW, my mentor in errors, Ed Fleischmann of Coin World's Collectors Clearinghouse, told me a story about how, not long after the first cents on nails appeared among great skepticism, he happened to be on the floor of one of the Mints (probably Denver during an ANA Summer Seminar tour but I can't swear to that) and saw a thin nail sitting on a coining press!

    He asked the press operator what it was for, and the press operator said that when the feed tube clogged he used the nail to clear the feed tube, which had a slot down the side for this very purpose!

    So, although a cent strike on a nail is very unlikely, there does exist the chance that at least one such strike was a legitimate random error.

    TD

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,749 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I sold another PCGS Nail at the ANA last month.

    In 1977, a half-dozen (Cent) pieces appeared at a large
    New York coin show - from the West Point Depository.

    I bought them all - they're now slowly appearing on the
    market.

    Also, around 2000/2001, a few pieces on cents and dimes
    came out of the Philadelphia Mint.

    As far as I know, only one of any of these has a date -
    a Nail with just the '1977' date showing on the nail.

    NGC is certifying them too. >>





    So the nails are "Point"ed???

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  • luckybucksluckybucks Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭
    Neat error. Sharp as a ta...... eh err nail.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I ever get board with error coins, I'll come back and nail this thread.

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I looked at the piece once and said,"oh how cool." Then I got bored looking at it a second time.Now if a mermaid charm or such were to be struck with a penny impression at the mint I would look at the piece all night.

    Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too bad there's no TrueView / CoinFacts photo. I like how the word "LIBERTY" is entirely there.
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If that were a dime struck instead I guess that'd be a 10-penny nail error.
  • Nobody is commenting on what the Lincoln nail is worth. The seller is trying to get $9,000. So far nobody is biting. What is a reasonable price for the MS63 Lincoln Nail? I have no clue, but I can't imagine anyone paying more than $250 for it.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Cool piece

    Jon knows his errors, so I can't imagine the price being too far off reality
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd rather give nine grand to a homeless vet.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's pretty cool, but I think PCGS got it wrong.

    It looks like a MS64 nail to me. >>



    Good eye,image
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The nail that I sold (in a PCGS holder) at the ANA,
    mentioned earlier in this thread, sold for $8,000,
    so Jon's asking price of $9K is within the range of
    'last trade'.
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Still like my Cent struck on a Hair far better....

    Priceless after DNA results prove it belonged to a Press Operator imageimage
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ttt
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: CaptHenway

    ttt




    Is this the thread you were searching for? If so, then we are talking about a cent on a nail.



    This is way cool.



    image



    The thread I posted is about a dime on a nail......I feel it deserves its own space. image

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool stuff, Jon.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: FredWeinberg
    I sold another PCGS Nail at the ANA last month.

    In 1977, a half-dozen (Cent) pieces appeared at a large
    New York coin show - from the West Point Depository.

    I bought them all - they're now slowly appearing on the
    market.

    Also, around 2000/2001, a few pieces on cents and dimes
    came out of the Philadelphia Mint.

    As far as I know, only one of any of these has a date -
    a Nail with just the '1977' date showing on the nail.

    NGC is certifying them too.


    Darn tourists!


    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would rather see Susan B. struck on a screw.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like the dime on a nail brought out more of the unusual... strike while the market

    is hot...image Cheers, RickO
  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans
    That's pretty cool, but I think PCGS got it wrong.

    It looks like a MS64 nail to me.


    I think they nailed it.image
    Sorry, I didn't look further to find other punsters!
    Paul
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have no reason to doubt that the pieces mentioned here were struck in a U.S. Mint facility, but as I said ATS just now, with all the publicity these pieces are getting, I would not be surprised if the Chinese counterfeiters started getting cute.



    How about a Trade Dollar struck on a pair of chopsticks?



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