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  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    I'll go against the popular consensus on this one, which is surprising as I normally love toners.

    It must really shine in hand, but honestly from the images I don't like it... and I sure as hell don't like it for that kind of moon money.

    Sure it's extremely vibrant and saturated, but it's also splotchy in places.

    Pass.
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I choose to believe the people who say it's drop-dead spectacular in person. Digital images just don't cut it for me. No way this coin ever would fetch $69k from a digital image that makes it look splotchy or maybe even AT. Nor would PCGS grade it MS68+ unless it was Superb Gem+. Just reading the responses from people who really know Commems and have been in this business for decades is very revealing. Some day it will go up for auction again and we'll get an answer.

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In rhedden's defense, one of the synonyms for infamous is shocking. I'd say $69K for an Oregon is pretty
    shocking, monster toning notwithstanding. I choose not to pass judgment on the abstract value of anything based on
    its value to me. Clearly the owner felt it was worth that and seems to have no buyer's remorse years later.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO, Dan Carr's version aesthetically superior in matte specimen....
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • robecrobec Posts: 6,874 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In rhedden's defense, one of the synonyms for infamous is shocking. I'd say $69K for an Oregon is pretty
    shocking, monster toning notwithstanding. I choose not to pass judgment on the abstract value of anything based on
    its value to me. Clearly the owner felt it was worth that and seems to have no buyer's remorse years later. >>


    rhedden doesn't need a defense. I thought I had missed some problem with the coin that had been written about sometime in the past.

    The coin is shocking and monstrous, I'll give you that. I just don't see any of the other synonyms to infamous applying.
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Controversial" would have been a better word, in retrospect. The coin just drew the ire of so many posters back in 2004 (despite its beauty and its ardent supporters) that I dubbed it "infamous."
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That coin is SWEET! >>



    I still repeat my words above!
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I choose to believe the people who say it's drop-dead spectacular in person. Digital images just don't cut it for me. No way this coin ever would fetch $69k from a digital image that makes it look splotchy or maybe even AT. Nor would PCGS grade it MS68+ unless it was Superb Gem+. Just reading the responses from people who really know Commems and have been in this business for decades is very revealing. Some day it will go up for auction again and we'll get an answer. >>



    Well done.

    The coin is heaven. All you need to know is Larry Shepherd and David Schweitz who have handled the most spectator toned coins that graced the planet are in awe of the coin. Ignore the noise and chatter of those who ever never seen the coin in hand.

    mark
    Walker Proof Digital Album
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One look in hand is worth more than 1,000 photos.
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a rational discussion here....Please! Just ignore the rest of us unwashed and inexperienced who know nothing about coins. Really?
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This series will have it's day in the sun again.


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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds like a rational discussion here....Please! Just ignore the rest of us unwashed and inexperienced who know nothing about coins. Really? >>



    For those basing opinions solely based on pictures and who have never seen the coin in hand.......Yes, really. It's that an emotional of a coin. price will always be up for debate. But, since it's not for sale it's a fantasy discussion. For those that don't collect this genre the price will never make sense. It will make more sense to toned coin collectors and toned commem collectors.

    Your unwashed and inexperienced comments are your words. Not mine. Read into it whatever you want.

    mark
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, it is your condescending attitude that is beyond the pale quite frankly, and that was precisely what I was poking fun at. I was just running with just that.
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin is Sweet! image
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's the best way to see this coin in hand? image
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    I remember this coin from Mike DeFalco's website

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I remember this coin from Mike DeFalco's website

    image >>



    Nice! Very bright colors in that photo.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,224 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Speaking of infamous, it's down to $16k

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/171809699921?_mwBanner=1
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Speaking of infamous, it's down to $16k

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/171809699921?_mwBanner=1 >>



    Wasn't this just in the $30K range?
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,224 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Speaking of infamous, it's down to $16k

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/171809699921?_mwBanner=1 >>



    Wasn't this just in the $30K range? >>



    Wake me up when it's a tenth of that
  • brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gosh at that rate, by 2024 it will be in an MS70+ holder. image

    Just my opinion, but I don't like that coin in any of the various pictures posted. To each his own.
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Speaking of infamous, it's down to $16k

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/171809699921?_mwBanner=1 >>



    Linkified.
  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Speaking of infamous, it's down to $16k

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/171809699921?_mwBanner=1 >>



    Linkified. >>



    And that link is to a trade dollar, not the commem. Did this thread take a left turn?
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, into the dumpster.
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's get this back on track:

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  • This is my PCGS MS67+ CAC
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I choose to believe the people who say it's drop-dead spectacular in person. Digital images just don't cut it for me. No way this coin ever would fetch $69k from a digital image that makes it look splotchy or maybe even AT. Nor would PCGS grade it MS68+ unless it was Superb Gem+. Just reading the responses from people who really know Commems and have been in this business for decades is very revealing. Some day it will go up for auction again and we'll get an answer. >>



    Well done.

    The coin is heaven. All you need to know is Larry Shepherd and David Schweitz who have handled the most spectator toned coins that graced the planet are in awe of the coin. Ignore the noise and chatter of those who ever never seen the coin in hand.

    mark >>



    All you need to know? OY VEY! image

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I choose to believe the people who say it's drop-dead spectacular in person. Digital images just don't cut it for me. No way this coin ever would fetch $69k from a digital image that makes it look splotchy or maybe even AT. Nor would PCGS grade it MS68+ unless it was Superb Gem+. Just reading the responses from people who really know Commems and have been in this business for decades is very revealing. Some day it will go up for auction again and we'll get an answer. >>



    Well done.

    The coin is heaven. All you need to know is Larry Shepherd and David Schweitz who have handled the most spectator toned coins that graced the planet are in awe of the coin. Ignore the noise and chatter of those who ever never seen the coin in hand.

    mark >>



    All you need to know? OY VEY! image >>



    stman, Would your rather hear as your writing a check... 26-P's don't come with color like 26-S's so although it slabbed we think it's cooked imageimage
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • tyler267tyler267 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2018 7:11PM

    Given all the discussion about the beautifully toned 1958 Franklin that sold for 130,000, I thought the board might want to revisit another toned coin that sold for moon money back in 2004.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2018 11:42PM

    Here's the TrueView:

    PCGS MS68+ Pop 1/0 - J&L Collection Pedigree

    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/34111826

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “they told me that the Oregon is one of two commems in their fabulous collection that will never be sold during their lifetimes.”

    Let me guess the other... the Boone in MS69!

    Wondercoin.

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  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really really hate that these "resurrected" threads have NO FORM OF NOTICE that they have been brought back from the historic backstage.

    Not that some of the information isn't worthwhile, but I would check the end page first to see if the 'resurrector' has some personal and/or trivial axe to grind.

  • specialistspecialist Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would pay stupid money still for the 26S. It should by now be a six figure coin.

    Like w/the 1958 50C we just sold-every one thinks they have have something similar-but are not even close.....

    You know immediately when you see a super special coin.

    I still to this day regret not buying it

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I periodically check my coins to see if any of them have achieved such colorful tarnish...sort of like checking one's garden for ripe vegetables... ;) So far, none have changed...in the lottery of tarnish, I have no winners. :'(;) Cheers, RickO

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS Coin Facts says this is the highest price paid for an Oregon: $69,000 • PCGS MS67 • 4-2-2004 • Superior Galleries

    Only graded MS67.

    thefinn
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One mans MS67 is another mans MS68+

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053

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