I've had EBayers contact me and say my price is to high, or low. That's fine, sometimes I rethink it. But to stir the pot of a done deal is unacceptable. I wouldn't want to ever deal with a person like that.
First ask the seller for the Ebay names that contacted him. If he won't disclose, then offer to grease the wheels with some green.
Once you get the EBay name(s), post them here so they can be blocked.
From what I’ve seen on this board, if there is ANY possible way to create chaotic, disruptive, insulting, holier than the all mighty, jabs at people it WILL be done.
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I never post pics of my coins and never make much noise on what I buy and pay for it. In the past I wanted to but refrained due to the very problem this threads brings out. The MPL police cost me a few decent scores a few years back on raw Lincoln cents. I was willing to take the gamble but others would not allow it.
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I came a across a few many nice scores a few years back, never shared the details simply because i knew it would do me no good, and the chance for bad blood was high. never regretted it. in this case, you did not gloat, someone else opened the topic. The entire thing is a learning tool, for those who do not check for rare dates, for those who think it is impossible to do, for those who did not know how to identify. It was a win for all. Education sometimes costs.
As a side note, I also found a dateless 1916 in some 90% I bought. It was a blast researching the identifying marks and then getting it graded. PO01 I believe.
I was the one who posted the original pick. I however am not the one who, notified the seller. That is a really piece of **** thing to do. Had the transaction not posted nearly a month ago, I would not have posted the link to the eBay transaction. I am all about sharing any cherry picks I make. I enjoy reading all posts about cherry picks, they are very educational and fun to read.
@mbogoman, I apologize for the actions of the jealous few who lack the ability to educate themselves and have nothing better to do than make others lives more difficult.
My post had no intention of outing the buyer. It was only to confirm that I saw what I thought I saw in the photos. Next time, I will not give a link to an auction and will only provide an edited photo. With that being said. Very big congrats to you mbogoman!! I hope you enjoy your cherry pick and use the proceeds to add a very nice addition to your collection.
To me, this is no different that a third party interfering with a transaction at a dealer's table at a show. Been discussed here many times.... if the transaction does not involve you, stay out of it.
1) A forum member is a friend of the seller and tipped him off. My money is on this one.
2) A dealer who hates cherrypickers did it for spite.
3) A jealous collector did it to cause trouble.
4) An airhead poster emailed the seller to ask if he had any more dateless quarters that he could sell for melt, since there are some 1916s in there.
In any event, the people who emailed the seller deserve a "You Suck" of a different kind. They truly do suck. If the seller asks for more money or asks for the coin back, I'd list the coin for $2,000 on eBay and tell him he can buy it now, and here's a link.
That is why I don't post much of my pick any more I do them daily but don't show any one any more. I think it was a big loss for the board not knowing what to look for in some coins. But some just cant keep a good thing going and it is what it is good pick any ways and it's not your job to tell every one what they have if that is the case you should get paid for your time or they can do there own home work we spend a lot of time looking and reading book after book to see what is out there and time is money... and it was not me I don't kiss and tell I cherry-pick.
<< <i>Imagine what might have happened to this coin had you not had the technical skill to recognize it. Most likely destroyed. Now it will be protectively encased and graded and added to the coin's numbers. Congratulations, you have preserved a piece of history and should be rewarded. Do not allow one or two selfish and jealous priks to ruin your numismatic enjoyments. Thanks for sharing. Jim
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Well said . . . exactly what I was thinking, and . . . BTW mbogoman . . .
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<< <i> Common sense and decency says you don't do this, there is nothing to gain and it just opens up a hornets nest. Now I've got an unhappy seller on my case. >>
Who cares if the seller is unhappy? He sold the item at auction, you won it, and you paid for it. He has no remedy against you. I would, however, share your frustration as there was no reason for anyone to contact the seller after the fact.
I always enjoyed the post of someone who has studied their series to the point that a pick is made. Not only does it get a hole in the set filled for a lot less, but it demonstrates one has taken the time, energy, often photographs, compared examples, collected books and spent endless hours in front of a computer screen or attending shows to increase ones knowledge. After so much effort often one becomes so knowledgable that they often could rewrite the books chapter on the nuances of a particular coin they have studied.Then small rewards come because of all the effort and patience. First the Pick, then the earned congratulatory comments and who knows, maybe a fellow collector sharing additional info they discovered or even a well known collector asking for assistance to find said example. One thing is for sure. Cherry pickers are the "suppliers" of variety coins needed for collectors who can not tell a DDO from MD.
Now if a seller is so concerned as to him/herself getting "ripped off", then they better do what I described above - spend money to make money. And for the jerks who "reported" this event - beware. I will pick you- and so will everyone else as you have not a clue or YOU would have id and won the coin in question.
So the best thing is for everyone to feel free to post their picks, just don't say where it came from as many of mine are from other places than Ebay.
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Anybody reading this message board (don't believe they have to even be a member?) could have notified the seller for whatever reason.
Whatever cherrypicks or super deals I get on purchases I keep to myself. There are griefers on these boards who will attack a poster for whatever reason to embarass or advance their status.
I am sure many have found this informational that dateless SLQ are not all culls.
If I was in your position, I'd offer the seller a chunk of the profit from the eventual sale of the coin in exchange for the usernames of the people who emailed him... Even if I wasn't going to share them publicly, just so I would know.
wouldn't this be a little like doing what everyone is all worked up about in the first place?? I think the thread has jumped the shark...........................
<< <i>First...... I want to say congrats to the OP. Good job....that's what it's all about.
Second.....what a POS D-BAG you are to whomever sent the email to the seller! >>
I am in total agreement with Dimeman. Whoever did this is a loser but I am sure they fail to recognize themselves as such. >>
What could this email 'tattle-tale' hope to accomplish? Just mean, immature and ignorant IMO. >>
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Just out of curiosity, I looked up the listing to see who the seller was.
He seems to be a reputable and very experienced dealer.
He has been on eBay for over 10 years. He has over 4,000 positive feedback, with almost 1,700 in the last 12 months alone. He has 100% positive feedback and all 5 star ratings.
Currently, he has well over 500 listings.
And his bio on his eBay Store page says that he specializes in Morgan Dollars, Wheat and Indian Pennies and STANDING LIBERTY QUARTERS!
p.s Seriously, I don't know him, but he looks like someone worth doing business with. And he has more dateless SLQ's!!
I really enjoy the cherry picking threads, and like the old cliche' "education is expensive". The seller got schooled and will probably be a little more knowledgeable in their future sales. If I have been cherry picked before, good for the buyer. There should be no remorse for doing your homework other than doing better research next time.
I enjoy cherry picking myself, but now I have my doubts about whether or not to display for all to see. I have a couple of irons in the fire, but I don't know about "show and tell" here anymore.
We'll see...
BTW...way to go on your 1916 SLQ score!
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First, a well earned congrats to Mbogoman. That should be an especially sweet pick knowing you were the only bidder!
"I am sure many have found this informational that dateless SLQ are not all culls."
The above comment was certainly the case for me. The original thread was fascinating and highly educational. I thank all those who participated in fact-sharing and am saddened by the thought that a bad apple out there is ruining my opportunity to "sit at the feet" of the masters and learn.
Given that one of the most popular numismatic books out there is a guide to cherrypicking, I earnestly hope that you experts out there will continue to share stories of your picks and not let the jerks steal away a well deserved kudos.
Just WOW! mbogoman and I have been trading partners several times as fellow Trade Dollar fanciers, and I hope that the little rat who contacted the seller of mbogoman's pick is eventually outed. I think I already know who it is, based on their past similar antics toward another forum member. I've already decided that the punk is persona non grata here.
About 12 years ago Wayne Skiles listed a rare, unattributed 1878 VAM on eBay in auction format. By the time I saw it, several people had messaged him in an attempt to get him to add a BIN, presumably at a price well below the fair market value for it. He got suspicious of all of the attempts to BIN, so he researched the coin and pulled the listing when he realized what he had. After entering into a conversation with him about it, I concurred with his position that the coin should be resubmitted for variety attribution and then promptly relisted on eBay at a commensurate price. Skiles later told me that a direct competitor of mine repeatedly called him while the coin was out for the TPG variety service, trying to talk him in to selling the coin at a price well below what he expected. Skiles held his position, and when the coin was back in his hands, he called me immediately to notify me that it was about to be listed again on eBay in auction format with a BIN price, and even gave the starting time of the new listing. I used the BIN button within 36 seconds of the start of the auction. Then the proverbial SHTF. The competitor who had been pestering Skiles decided to call him and claim that he knew someone that would pay $3K more than I had committed to. Skiles again stood his ground, and told my competitor to pound sand. I've never spoken to or even acknowledged that competitor since then. He may as well be worm food. I hope that the rat who tried to mess with Jim's diligence does read this carefully and understand that there are consequences.
<< <i>MBogoman: Congratulations on using your cherry-picking skills to recognize the well-worn dateless 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter from the group of other coins!
First off, I doubt it was a "kid" who is the pot-stirrer. It is most likely someone 18 or older. It doesn't sound like something a kid would do. It sounds like someone a POS adult would do.
Secondly, to even insinuate, whether a joke or not, that the OP from the other thread was the person, is a moronic thing to do. He already said he wasn't the one and I think it was obvious from his prior posts about it that he didn't hold anything against the purchaser and was just impressed.
Third, if there were no typos and if the seller worded things the way they are, there was more than 1 person who did it. There are slimeballs around here that would do that kind of thing. They could also be a lurker here but a poster on the NGC boards now (ie...maybe a banned member here)....some folks that were banned here that post there are mentally unbalanced at anything that happens here.
It IS a shame that the knee jerk reaction to things like this is always to stop posting/admitting to cherrypicks. I have found cherrypicks to be very educational and I like that. I have also NEVER been able to do an actual cherrypick ...but I still like learning.
I would guess that the informer was not a collector on this forum, but rather a fellow dealer on this forum who just wanted to chide a competitor on his lack of grading skills. Sounds like the seller is reputable, but maybe does have poor grading skills. Might be a good dealer for collectors to get to know........
If the value of the 1916 SLQ dateless coin is $2000, then the dealer should consider it good advertising. My hats off to you for not only recognizing the coin, but acknowledging yourself as the purchaser.
It is also very possible that the seller purchased those dateless SLQ's from someone for melt or slighty above melt and made some money in the process...just left money on the table (unknowingly).
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<< <i>Where to go from here? Well for starters, other than for Trade Dollars, which seem to have a more decent crowd, I won't be posting or acknowledging cherry-picks anymore. >>
Sorry about the trouble. But this might have happened even if you hadn't acknowledged the cherry. Saying "it was me" didn't matter. Lance.
What really gets under my skin is that Ebay allows this to happen. They could easily anonymize completed listings, only allowing to who sells what if you are specifically searching that seller.
A Loser is A Loser!!!! Seriously....Haters will always hate. To the Hater or Haters who did this, as sure as I am writing this, they will read this...I hope he/she falls over in public and breaks their neck! What a classless POS you are indeed! Your life is worthless and yes...you ARE A LOSER and A HATER!!! WTF is this world coming to??? You are indeed a Chump!!!
If I were you I would offer the eBay seller $100 to oust the hater and then I would hang 'em high right here in this thread for all to see!
Edit: for spelling and just to say yet again that the hater/haters in this situation are punk azz losers...do the world a favor and jump off a bridge.
Offer the seller a 100% profit on his original purchase price of that quarter. That's more than fair.
Personally, I would never list major scores on the coin forum, as the coin community is rather small and well-connected. Nothing good could come of it.
People on the forum really do strange things at times. I remember telling a member (matrix1890 I think it was) about how I got a good deal from one of my dealers and sure enough I received a call from the dealer stating that a guy was trying to get him to sell him the coin for $100 more. He mentioned the guy was from Canada and I put 2 and 2 together. I'm glad the dealer told him to get lost.
Well at lest you got the coins and not the other guy. Lucky you did not pre post or that jerk would of tried to buy them 1st then the sell would say they got lost in the mail or something like that. What a snakes!!! you play with a snake you'll get bit some times. Even when you try to help it does not work they look at you like you tried to rip them off. Oh well you did good keep up the good work.
There is the story of the 1974-D aluminum cent where the purchaser offered to split to proceeds with the seller. It's a nice thought, but I don't think it's generally expected.
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I cannot believe the attention this has garnered. I personally love reading cherry picking posts. They are very informative and fun to read. I personally will continue to post my cherry picks. The unwarranted blow back on the OP of this thread is fuel for my fire to stick it to the punks that cannot enjoy a nice thing without spewing their filth upon it. The only thing I would recommend is not posting direct links to the source of the pick as I did. I made a mistake that I did not anticipate would blow up the way it has. I have learned from this. But, to defend my actions the auction had been done and over with for some time. The only reason I found the listing, was my search for completed auctions with a specific search criteria, resulted in very few matches.
My 1919 DDO Mercury dime was the result of a cherry pick. Not on eBay, but at a local show. The dealer whom I bought it from, was one of those negative "everything goes wrong for me" types. Before I had even looked at his folders of dimes, I had been looking at slabbed coins in his case. Every coin I expressed interest in came with a "I'm gonna take a loss on that one" "It should have graded higher, but what can I do" or "I had one not long ago just like that, and the guy who bought it resubmitted it and it got bumped up". I really didn't like listening to the wining. I had considered purchasing a couple of the nicer coins I looked at, but decided I didn't need them. So I went off looking at other dealers tables. After a couple of hours of looking around, I decided I'd look at Mercury Dimes, specifically for the recent 1919 DDO. After a purchase of a nice AU example showing some nice MD, I visited Mr. Negative's table again. I opened his book, and he had 4 examples of a 1919-P. The first was a G, the second a VG, the third a F and the last one to look at was the EF example. I could barely believe I found it so easily after looking at literally only 6 coins. I thought maybe it was a fairly common variety. But my thought was, wow this guy really does have bad luck. Maybe he just brings it upon himself by not learning about his coins. Maybe he should work on his grading skills instead of crying poor me to all of his customers. Maybe he should just not be a dealer. So to make it fair, I handed him the coin and asked him how much he want's for it. This gave him the opportunity to examine it once more before the sale. He quoted a price 30% lower than the price marked on it. I said "I'll take it". Point of all this is that being an informed purchaser puts you in a position of power. Being an informed Seller put's you at the top of the food chain. Being an uninformed seller puts you at risk of being eaten alive. If you want to pursue a career as a dealer, educate yourself. If you call yourself an expert in a series and you let something by you, it's YOUR fault, not the savvy buyer. Bring your "A" game or go home. Those of us who play, play for keeps.
Life is an eat or be eaten scenario. Society has become far to consumed with the feelings of a few being hurt, that they are willing to put the feelings of all the others aside without thought to consequences. If you don't think life is fair, go live as a hermit or just end it. Power to the people who want to enrich their lives with wisdom, I applaud you. Shame on those who only want to wine about how unfair everything is. You have a choice. Choose..... I have...
Rant over.. Bring on your cherry picking stories, I'll grab some popcorn...
<< <i> . . . Point of all this is that being an informed purchaser puts you in a position of power. Being an informed Seller put's you at the top of the food chain. Being an uninformed seller puts you at risk of being eaten alive. If you want to pursue a career as a dealer, educate yourself. If you call yourself an expert in a series and you let something by you, it's YOUR fault, not the savvy buyer. Bring your "A" game or go home. Those of us who play, play for keeps.
Life is an eat or be eaten scenario. . . . Rant over.. Bring on your cherry picking stories, I'll grab some popcorn... >>
In the words of Norm on Cheers "It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."
If you inherited a piece of property someplace far away that you had never seen and knew nothing about, would you just sell it for the first offer you get, or would you check it out first to get some idea of what it might be worth?
As a dealer, I would mention that if you're selling something, you should probably examine it first. If you don't know what it is, or don't know what it is worth, then you might want to hold onto it until you find additional information that will help you put a price on the coin. If you sell something without doing your homework and it turns out to be more valuable than you thought, that happened because of you, not because of the buyer. Don't blame the buyer for your mistake!
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<< <i> In the words of Norm on Cheers "It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."
If you inherited a piece of property someplace far away that you had never seen and knew nothing about, would you just sell it for the first offer you get, or would you check it out first to get some idea of what it might be worth?
As a dealer, I would mention that if you're selling something, you should probably examine it first. If you don't know what it is, or don't know what it is worth, then you might want to hold onto it until you find additional information that will help you put a price on the coin. If you sell something without doing your homework and it turns out to be more valuable than you thought, that happened because of you, not because of the buyer. Don't blame the buyer for your mistake! >>
This.
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To all: many thanks for your support and kind words, but I think we should let this one die now. Everything that could have been said has been said. My original intent for this thread was to remind everyone that there are still disgruntled rats out there, ready to cause problems at the first chance they get. This fact has been acknowledged umpteen times already, I don't think there is any disagreement there. The rat knows who he is, and should know by now that if he ever slips up and accidentally reveals his persona, there is an army of us waiting with torches and pitchforks...
Fortunately I have the coin in hand, and after all, that's the important thing.
<< <i>To all: many thanks for your support and kind words, but I think we should let this one die now. Everything that could have been said has been said. My original intent for this thread was to remind everyone that there are still disgruntled rats out there, ready to cause problems at the first chance they get. This fact has been acknowledged umpteen times already, I don't think there is any disagreement there. The rat knows who he is, and should know by now that if he ever slips up and accidentally reveals his persona, there is an army of us waiting with torches and pitchforks...
Fortunately I have the coin in hand, and after all, that's the important thing.
Cheers, Jim >>
Congrat's. This forum is littered with a ton of ex safety boys and hall monitors. Jealousy rears its ugly head here.................again
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Or they're just jealous and want to make sure the seller blocks you so you won't ever get a score again.
Hard to tell.
First ask the seller for the Ebay names that contacted him. If he won't disclose, then offer to grease the wheels with some green.
Once you get the EBay name(s), post them here so they can be blocked.
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Congrats
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As a side note, I also found a dateless 1916 in some 90% I bought. It was a blast researching the identifying marks and then getting it graded. PO01 I believe.
@mbogoman, I apologize for the actions of the jealous few who lack the ability to educate themselves and have nothing better to do than make others lives more difficult.
My post had no intention of outing the buyer. It was only to confirm that I saw what I thought I saw in the photos. Next time, I will not give a link to an auction and will only provide an edited photo. With that being said. Very big congrats to you mbogoman!! I hope you enjoy your cherry pick and use the proceeds to add a very nice addition to your collection.
1) A forum member is a friend of the seller and tipped him off. My money is on this one.
2) A dealer who hates cherrypickers did it for spite.
3) A jealous collector did it to cause trouble.
4) An airhead poster emailed the seller to ask if he had any more dateless quarters that he could sell for melt, since there are some 1916s in there.
In any event, the people who emailed the seller deserve a "You Suck" of a different kind. They truly do suck.
If the seller asks for more money or asks for the coin back, I'd list the coin for $2,000 on eBay and tell him he can buy it now, and here's a link.
The only issue I ever have is dealers/collectors ripping off widow women face to face. The rest are fair game.
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RIP "BEAR"
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>Imagine what might have happened to this coin had you not had the technical skill
to recognize it. Most likely destroyed. Now it will be protectively encased and graded
and added to the coin's numbers. Congratulations, you have preserved a piece of
history and should be rewarded. Do not allow one or two selfish and jealous priks to
ruin your numismatic enjoyments. Thanks for sharing.
Jim
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Well said . . . exactly what I was thinking, and . . . BTW mbogoman . . .
GOOD EYE ! ! !
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<< <i>First...... I want to say congrats to the OP. Good job....that's what it's all about.
Second.....what a POS D-BAG you are to whomever sent the email to the seller! >>
This has Happened to Me and Many others Who Use to Post all our Cherry picks.
How could anyone not notice the past 2 years?
This site used to have a New Cherry picks daily on the front page and folks shared all there Grades.
I am another who no longer posts any cherry picks or any new Discoveries.
Congrats to the OP and I totally agree with Dimeman.......
There are more than one of these trolls here...........Enjoy
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<< <i> Common sense and decency says you don't do this, there is nothing to gain and it just opens up a hornets nest. Now I've got an unhappy seller on my case. >>
Who cares if the seller is unhappy? He sold the item at auction, you won it, and you paid for it. He has no remedy against you. I would, however, share your frustration as there was no reason for anyone to contact the seller after the fact.
My question is how did the OP even find some obscure auction from a month ago to post in the first place? He might be your rat!
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<< <i>First...... I want to say congrats to the OP. Good job....that's what it's all about.
Second.....what a POS D-BAG you are to whomever sent the email to the seller! >>
I am in total agreement with Dimeman.
Whoever did this is a loser but I am sure they fail to recognize themselves as such. >>
What could this email 'tattle-tale' hope to accomplish? Just mean, immature and ignorant IMO.
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Now if a seller is so concerned as to him/herself getting "ripped off", then they better do what I described above - spend money to make money. And for the jerks who "reported" this event - beware. I will pick you- and so will everyone else as you have not a clue or YOU would have id and won the coin in question.
So the best thing is for everyone to feel free to post their picks, just don't say where it came from as many of mine are from other places than Ebay.
WS
Whatever cherrypicks or super deals I get on purchases I keep to myself. There are griefers on these boards who will attack a poster for whatever reason to embarass or advance their status.
I am sure many have found this informational that dateless SLQ are not all culls.
wouldn't this be a little like doing what everyone is all worked up about in the first place?? I think the thread has jumped the shark...........................
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<< <i>First...... I want to say congrats to the OP. Good job....that's what it's all about.
Second.....what a POS D-BAG you are to whomever sent the email to the seller! >>
I am in total agreement with Dimeman.
Whoever did this is a loser but I am sure they fail to recognize themselves as such. >>
What could this email 'tattle-tale' hope to accomplish? Just mean, immature and ignorant IMO. >>
He seems to be a reputable and very experienced dealer.
He has been on eBay for over 10 years. He has over 4,000 positive feedback, with almost 1,700 in the last 12 months alone. He has 100% positive feedback and all 5 star ratings.
Currently, he has well over 500 listings.
And his bio on his eBay Store page says that he specializes in Morgan Dollars, Wheat and Indian Pennies and STANDING LIBERTY QUARTERS!
p.s Seriously, I don't know him, but he looks like someone worth doing business with. And he has more dateless SLQ's!!
I enjoy cherry picking myself, but now I have my doubts about whether or not to display for all to see. I have a couple of irons in the fire, but I don't know about "show and tell" here anymore.
We'll see...
BTW...way to go on your 1916 SLQ score!
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"I am sure many have found this informational that dateless SLQ are not all culls."
The above comment was certainly the case for me. The original thread was fascinating and highly educational. I thank all those who participated in fact-sharing and am saddened by the thought that a bad apple out there is ruining my opportunity to "sit at the feet" of the masters and learn.
Given that one of the most popular numismatic books out there is a guide to cherrypicking, I earnestly hope that you experts out there will continue to share stories of your picks and not let the jerks steal away a well deserved kudos.
About 12 years ago Wayne Skiles listed a rare, unattributed 1878 VAM on eBay in auction format. By the time I saw it, several people had messaged him in an attempt to get him to add a BIN, presumably at a price well below the fair market value for it. He got suspicious of all of the attempts to BIN, so he researched the coin and pulled the listing when he realized what he had. After entering into a conversation with him about it, I concurred with his position that the coin should be resubmitted for variety attribution and then promptly relisted on eBay at a commensurate price. Skiles later told me that a direct competitor of mine repeatedly called him while the coin was out for the TPG variety service, trying to talk him in to selling the coin at a price well below what he expected. Skiles held his position, and when the coin was back in his hands, he called me immediately to notify me that it was about to be listed again on eBay in auction format with a BIN price, and even gave the starting time of the new listing. I used the BIN button within 36 seconds of the start of the auction. Then the proverbial SHTF. The competitor who had been pestering Skiles decided to call him and claim that he knew someone that would pay $3K more than I had committed to. Skiles again stood his ground, and told my competitor to pound sand. I've never spoken to or even acknowledged that competitor since then. He may as well be worm food.
I hope that the rat who tried to mess with Jim's diligence does read this carefully and understand that there are consequences.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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<< <i>MBogoman: Congratulations on using your cherry-picking skills to recognize the well-worn dateless 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter from the group of other coins!
+++++1
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Secondly, to even insinuate, whether a joke or not, that the OP from the other thread was the person, is a moronic thing to do. He already said he wasn't the one and I think it was obvious from his prior posts about it that he didn't hold anything against the purchaser and was just impressed.
Third, if there were no typos and if the seller worded things the way they are, there was more than 1 person who did it. There are slimeballs around here that would do that kind of thing. They could also be a lurker here but a poster on the NGC boards now (ie...maybe a banned member here)....some folks that were banned here that post there are mentally unbalanced at anything that happens here.
It IS a shame that the knee jerk reaction to things like this is always to stop posting/admitting to cherrypicks. I have found cherrypicks to be very educational and I like that. I have also NEVER been able to do an actual cherrypick
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
If the value of the 1916 SLQ dateless coin is $2000, then the dealer should consider it good advertising. My hats off to you for not only recognizing the coin, but acknowledging yourself as the purchaser.
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<< <i>Where to go from here? Well for starters, other than for Trade Dollars, which seem to have a more decent crowd, I won't be posting or acknowledging cherry-picks anymore. >>
Sorry about the trouble. But this might have happened even if you hadn't acknowledged the cherry. Saying "it was me" didn't matter.
Lance.
<< <i>Can someone please post the thread that this issue stemmed from? I'd like to see that if possible. >>
Here it is: Thread Linked
Sorry this happened but not surprised. It has happened before, more than once.
If I were you I would offer the eBay seller $100 to oust the hater and then I would hang 'em high right here in this thread for all to see!
Edit: for spelling and just to say yet again that the hater/haters in this situation are punk azz losers...do the world a favor and jump off a bridge.
Personally, I would never list major scores on the coin forum, as the coin community is rather small and well-connected. Nothing good could come of it.
EAC 6024
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>It's happened to me. Forum members contacting one of my sellers. Very unethical. >>
Sorry to hear that. What did you end up doing?
<< <i>I no longer show my weekly cherry picks. >>
Seems reasonable.
<< <i>Sounds like you got Glickered. >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
My 1919 DDO Mercury dime was the result of a cherry pick. Not on eBay, but at a local show. The dealer whom I bought it from, was one of those negative "everything goes wrong for me" types. Before I had even looked at his folders of dimes, I had been looking at slabbed coins in his case. Every coin I expressed interest in came with a "I'm gonna take a loss on that one" "It should have graded higher, but what can I do" or "I had one not long ago just like that, and the guy who bought it resubmitted it and it got bumped up". I really didn't like listening to the wining. I had considered purchasing a couple of the nicer coins I looked at, but decided I didn't need them. So I went off looking at other dealers tables. After a couple of hours of looking around, I decided I'd look at Mercury Dimes, specifically for the recent 1919 DDO. After a purchase of a nice AU example showing some nice MD, I visited Mr. Negative's table again. I opened his book, and he had 4 examples of a 1919-P. The first was a G, the second a VG, the third a F and the last one to look at was the EF example. I could barely believe I found it so easily after looking at literally only 6 coins. I thought maybe it was a fairly common variety. But my thought was, wow this guy really does have bad luck. Maybe he just brings it upon himself by not learning about his coins. Maybe he should work on his grading skills instead of crying poor me to all of his customers. Maybe he should just not be a dealer. So to make it fair, I handed him the coin and asked him how much he want's for it. This gave him the opportunity to examine it once more before the sale. He quoted a price 30% lower than the price marked on it. I said "I'll take it". Point of all this is that being an informed purchaser puts you in a position of power. Being an informed Seller put's you at the top of the food chain. Being an uninformed seller puts you at risk of being eaten alive. If you want to pursue a career as a dealer, educate yourself. If you call yourself an expert in a series and you let something by you, it's YOUR fault, not the savvy buyer. Bring your "A" game or go home. Those of us who play, play for keeps.
Life is an eat or be eaten scenario. Society has become far to consumed with the feelings of a few being hurt, that they are willing to put the feelings of all the others aside without thought to consequences. If you don't think life is fair, go live as a hermit or just end it. Power to the people who want to enrich their lives with wisdom, I applaud you. Shame on those who only want to wine about how unfair everything is. You have a choice. Choose..... I have...
Rant over.. Bring on your cherry picking stories, I'll grab some popcorn...
Iv cherried a few pieces, and I know I have been cherried as well , its part of the coin biz
<< <i>Emailing sellers is a total lack of class and shows their true jealousy.
Obviously, these loser emailers have no time and no 'coin wisdom' to hunt these bargains down on Ebay or anywhere else.
I'm not going to get involved into the 'rights or wrongs' of this purchase.
Personally, I'm totally fine with it.
Seller sells an item and buyer buys it........Case closed.
My congrats to the OP and a big thumbs down to those losers who emailed the original seller of this lot. >>
ditto, and congrats to you.
to who ever did this: classless.
I have quite a few cherry picks and have shown them off on other sites, I never tell the seller, just other collectors.
To the rat" You are classless, and should be banned.
BHNC #203
<< <i> . . . Point of all this is that being an informed purchaser puts you in a position of power. Being an informed Seller put's you at the top of the food chain. Being an uninformed seller puts you at risk of being eaten alive. If you want to pursue a career as a dealer, educate yourself. If you call yourself an expert in a series and you let something by you, it's YOUR fault, not the savvy buyer. Bring your "A" game or go home. Those of us who play, play for keeps.
Life is an eat or be eaten scenario. . . .
Rant over.. Bring on your cherry picking stories, I'll grab some popcorn... >>
In the words of Norm on Cheers "It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."
If you inherited a piece of property someplace far away that you had never seen and knew nothing about, would you just sell it for the first offer you get, or would you check it out first to get some idea of what it might be worth?
As a dealer, I would mention that if you're selling something, you should probably examine it first. If you don't know what it is, or don't know what it is worth, then you might want to hold onto it until you find additional information that will help you put a price on the coin. If you sell something without doing your homework and it turns out to be more valuable than you thought, that happened because of you, not because of the buyer. Don't blame the buyer for your mistake!
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
<< <i>
In the words of Norm on Cheers "It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."
If you inherited a piece of property someplace far away that you had never seen and knew nothing about, would you just sell it for the first offer you get, or would you check it out first to get some idea of what it might be worth?
As a dealer, I would mention that if you're selling something, you should probably examine it first. If you don't know what it is, or don't know what it is worth, then you might want to hold onto it until you find additional information that will help you put a price on the coin. If you sell something without doing your homework and it turns out to be more valuable than you thought, that happened because of you, not because of the buyer. Don't blame the buyer for your mistake! >>
This.
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Fortunately I have the coin in hand, and after all, that's the important thing.
Cheers,
Jim
mbogoman
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<< <i>To all: many thanks for your support and kind words, but I think we should let this one die now. Everything that could have been said has been said. My original intent for this thread was to remind everyone that there are still disgruntled rats out there, ready to cause problems at the first chance they get. This fact has been acknowledged umpteen times already, I don't think there is any disagreement there. The rat knows who he is, and should know by now that if he ever slips up and accidentally reveals his persona, there is an army of us waiting with torches and pitchforks...
Fortunately I have the coin in hand, and after all, that's the important thing.
Cheers,
Jim >>
Congrat's. This forum is littered with a ton of ex safety boys and hall monitors. Jealousy rears its ugly head here.................again
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......