I like it too. Gonna be pricey though, at least $1500 I'd presume >>
I'd guess it'd price similar to a 1oz proof.
This thing is likely going to have a fancy box to go with it, too. So, it may price out over a proof ounce AGE.
I heard a rumor a few years back (from within the mint) that the mint had about 100,000 wooden boxes left from the 2009 UHR that they were sitting on.... these may wind up in the same type wooden boxes as the 2009 edition.
They had a picture of the box, simple clam shell box. Cheap Chinese stuff.
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<< <i>I like it and I'll pick one up.
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I like it too. Gonna be pricey though, at least $1500 I'd presume >>
I'd guess it'd price similar to a 1oz proof.
This thing is likely going to have a fancy box to go with it, too. So, it may price out over a proof ounce AGE.
I heard a rumor a few years back (from within the mint) that the mint had about 100,000 wooden boxes left from the 2009 UHR that they were sitting on.... these may wind up in the same type wooden boxes as the 2009 edition. >>
Her arm holding the flag is so out of proportion to the rest of the image, I'd say she is left handed tennis player. That arm is a honker, the distance across the elbow / forearm portrayed is greater then or equal to her neck.
<< <i>Hey, $100 face value, for a gold coin. Interesting! >>
Yeah, what happened to the oddball $75?
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Looks pretty neat I think. But the four sets of initials on the coin are a little distracting from the coolness. And I certainly don't think anybody's initials should be on the flag!
<< <i>Looks pretty neat I think. But the four sets of initials on the coin are a little distracting from the coolness. And I certainly don't think anybody's initials should be on the flag! >>
Excellent point! Move those initials!
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Designed by Justin Kunz and sculpted by Phebe Hemphill, obverses offer a depiction of Lady Liberty with a torch held upright in her right hand and an American flag on staff in her left. The U.S. Mint adopted CCAC recommended changes to the flag’s staff, changing its angle as to not run into wording. Inscriptions include LIBERTY, 2015, IN GOD WE TRUST and the artists’ initials.
Reverses feature an eagle design that was praised and first presented as an option for the 2015-W $5 U.S. Marshals 225th Anniversary Gold Coin. It was also the CCAC’s choice in a proposed idea for a new American Silver Eagle reverse. The olive branch below the eagle was reduced in size compared to the original design, as recommended by the CCAC.
Striking design but the eagle looks like it has scales instead of feathers..
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It looks like the "2015 High Relief 24K Gold Coin" has been rechristened to "American Liberty 2015 High Relief Gold Coin". I assume it is still UH8. A search on American Liberty take you to the numis bullion page.
Sales date is still listed as TBD, though the placeholder page did say July. That's only 4 days away, and I think they'd have to give sufficient notice. So we'll either know soon, or it won't be in July.
The silver medal (UH9) is still off the list. A search on it will only take you to the medals page.
(They've released the sale dates for the other C&C sets... Have to go find that thread...)
<< <i>the numismedia needs to ask what's up with the silver version UH9. >>
Agreed. It's been somewhat big news since they announced the high-relief coins, and to have them just disappear off the schedule is... interesting.
<< <i>too many silver eagles flying out the door? >>
Well, they ran out of SAE blanks (must be those C&C presidential medals), but I haven't bothered to read why. Maybe there's a shortage in the silver supply chain and couldn't allocate 50K+ ounces for the HR medal.
She looks pissed and disappointed. Seems she's turning back wondering where everyone is going. And the eagle wants to cry. look at Goldbully's close up.
"The U.S. Mint said on Tuesday it temporarily sold out of its popular 2015 American Eagle silver bullion coins due to a "significant" increase in demand, the latest sign plunging prices have spurred a resurgence of retail buying." - NEW YORK, July 7 (Reuters)
Is a high relief silver medal harder to strike than a high relief .999 gold medal? Maybe they're still working it out. As I recall, they had a few wrinkles to iron out on the 5 oz. ATBs before they issued them.
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<< <i>Hey, $100 face value, for a gold coin. Interesting! >>
Yeah, what happened to the oddball $75? >>
You're thinking of the Kennedy half dollar anniversary coin which is 3/4 oz of gold. Definitely an oddball weight but I'm guessing they wanted just enough gold to approximate the dimensions of the half dollar.
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<< <i>I certainly don't think anybody's initials should be on the flag! >>
Hey! I had to call in some favors to get the mint to put my initials on that flag.
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<< <i>She looks pissed and disappointed. Seems she's turning back wondering where everyone is going. And the eagle wants to cry. look at Goldbully's close up.
I'm still in though. >>
Some things are a "swing and a miss". Some are just amiss. This one looks like one to take a swing at.
<< <i>This one looks like one to take a swing at. >>
With a mintage of 50,000 there will be a sell out and it will have a bright future in the aftermarket. Look at the 2009 High Relief Saint with more than twice the mintage.
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<< <i>Is a high relief silver medal harder to strike than a high relief .999 gold medal? Maybe they're still working it out. As I recall, they had a few wrinkles to iron out on the 5 oz. ATBs before they issued them. >>
If I recall correctly the issue with the 5 oz. ATB's was the die size, made in Germany possibly. My memory gets worse with every passing year.
I am in for a couple if the price is right otherwise I will pass.
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<< <i>Hey, $100 face value, for a gold coin. Interesting! >>
Yeah, what happened to the oddball $75? >>
You're thinking of the Kennedy half dollar anniversary coin which is 3/4 oz of gold. Definitely an oddball weight but I'm guessing they wanted just enough gold to approximate the dimensions of the half dollar. >>
No, the denomination was originally planned as $75.
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<< <i>Is a high relief silver medal harder to strike than a high relief .999 gold medal? Maybe they're still working it out. As I recall, they had a few wrinkles to iron out on the 5 oz. ATBs before they issued them. >>
If I recall correctly the issue with the 5 oz. ATB's was the die size, made in Germany possibly. My memory gets worse with every passing year.
I am in for a couple if the price is right otherwise I will pass. >>
They had to special order a press from Germany that would strike the three-inch dies. The dies themselves were made in America.
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<< <i>With a mintage of 50,000 there will be a sell out and it will have a bright future in the aftermarket. Look at the 2009 High Relief Saint with more than twice the mintage. >>
The mint demonstrated significant mastery producing the 2009 HR Saint. A work of art, the coin appealed to many non-numismatists, bringing quite a few into the hobby.
If the mint put out a high relief 1 oz. 24K gold $100 with a mintage of no more than 50,000, if it had any uninspiring design, we should expect a sellout and significant long-term upside potential? Take a look at how the higher mintage platinums have faired.
I wonder how high the relief will actually be on these?
After all, they are the same weight as a gold Buffalo, yet are only somewhat small in diameter. The gold Buffalo is 31.108g in weight and 32.70mm in diameter (2.95mm thick) while this piece is 31.108g in weight and 30.61mm in diameter (no listed thickness). This is in contrast to the 2009 UHR Saint, which was 31.108g in weight and 27.00mm in diameter.
<< <i>What's the difference between product and mintage limit? >>
Mintage limit is the total number of coins minted
Product limit is the total number of each product such as single coins, three coin sets, proof sets, uncirculated sets, coin & cronicle sets, special sets, or whatever set includes that coin
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<< <i>What do you all think about these compared to the 2009 UHR? >>
Less than half the mintage of the UHR and an attractive design will make this a winner.
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<< <i>What do you all think about these compared to the 2009 UHR? >>
The 2009 UHR was a replica of America's most beloved coin, created by an incomparable artist. The original 1907 UHR is virtually impossible to acquire, resulting in strong collector interest in the modern copy.
Furthermore, this new interpretation of Liberty lacks the forceful power and classical style of the St Gaudens UHR. It has all appropriate elements and symbolism, but the whole obverse has the appearance of a staged photoshoot.
Despite my criticism, its a nice looking coin, especially the reverse. Still, the 2009 UHR, without question, gets my vote.
<< <i>What do you all think about these compared to the 2009 UHR? >>
The 2009 UHR was a replica of America's most beloved coin, created by an incomparable artist. The original 1907 UHR is virtually impossible to acquire, resulting in strong collector interest in the modern copy.
Furthermore, this new interpretation of Liberty lacks the forceful power and classical style of the St Gaudens UHR. It has all appropriate elements and symbolism, but the whole obverse has the appearance of a staged photoshoot.
Despite my criticism, its a nice looking coin, especially the reverse. Still, the 2009 UHR, without question, gets my vote. >>
This is truth. I had to have one of the 2009's. THis, I don't know.
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I have to say it's nice to have designer initials on the coins, vs. just initials from the sculptor / engravers. I've mentioned this as an issue in the past so it's nice to see it being addressed
<< <i>What do you all think about these compared to the 2009 UHR? >>
The 2009 UHR was a replica of America's most beloved coin, created by an incomparable artist. The original 1907 UHR is virtually impossible to acquire, resulting in strong collector interest in the modern copy.
Furthermore, this new interpretation of Liberty lacks the forceful power and classical style of the St Gaudens UHR. It has all appropriate elements and symbolism, but the whole obverse has the appearance of a staged photoshoot.
Despite my criticism, its a nice looking coin, especially the reverse. Still, the 2009 UHR, without question, gets my vote. >>
This is truth. I had to have one of the 2009's. THis, I don't know. >>
The 2009 HR Saints is a great coin and I bought one but the diameter was too small---about the size of a quarter. This coin should be nicer with it's larger diameter although the relief can't be as high since the planchet will be thinner.
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I knew it would happen.
I have been a Brad Pitt fan since True Romance....
How's Alabama, MJ?!
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<< <i>I like it and I'll pick one up.
JH >>
I like it too. Gonna be pricey though, at least $1500 I'd presume >>
I'd guess it'd price similar to a 1oz proof.
This thing is likely going to have a fancy box to go with it, too. So, it may price out over a proof ounce AGE.
I heard a rumor a few years back (from within the mint) that the mint had about 100,000 wooden boxes left from the 2009 UHR that they were sitting on.... these may wind up in the same type wooden boxes as the 2009 edition.
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<< <i>I like it and I'll pick one up.
JH >>
I like it too. Gonna be pricey though, at least $1500 I'd presume >>
I'd guess it'd price similar to a 1oz proof.
This thing is likely going to have a fancy box to go with it, too. So, it may price out over a proof ounce AGE.
I heard a rumor a few years back (from within the mint) that the mint had about 100,000 wooden boxes left from the 2009 UHR that they were sitting on.... these may wind up in the same type wooden boxes as the 2009 edition. >>
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
<< <i>I think this newest computerized rendition in gold is far better than the line art sketch we saw previously. >>
the eagle may beat out the 09 UHR reverse....
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<< <i>Hey, $100 face value, for a gold coin. Interesting! >>
Yeah, what happened to the oddball $75?
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<< <i>Looks pretty neat I think. But the four sets of initials on the coin are a little distracting from the coolness. And I certainly don't think anybody's initials should be on the flag! >>
Excellent point! Move those initials!
<< <i>Looks like release date was moved up to 7/23/15 per USM website >>
I see nothing on the USM web site.
got a link?
<< <i>I see nothing on the USM web site. >>
A few days ago when I first reported it, it appeared on the USM schedule Available on 7/23
Now it does not appear with any date, rather TBD
Designed by Justin Kunz and sculpted by Phebe Hemphill, obverses offer a depiction of Lady Liberty with a torch held upright in her right hand and an American flag on staff in her left. The U.S. Mint adopted CCAC recommended changes to the flag’s staff, changing its angle as to not run into wording. Inscriptions include LIBERTY, 2015, IN GOD WE TRUST and the artists’ initials.
Reverses feature an eagle design that was praised and first presented as an option for the 2015-W $5 U.S. Marshals 225th Anniversary Gold Coin. It was also the CCAC’s choice in a proposed idea for a new American Silver Eagle reverse. The olive branch below the eagle was reduced in size compared to the original design, as recommended by the CCAC.
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disappointing
It needs a special box. But I guess they didn't want to be stuck with excess box inventory (again?)
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Sales date is still listed as TBD, though the placeholder page did say July. That's only 4 days away, and I think they'd have to give sufficient notice. So we'll either know soon, or it won't be in July.
The silver medal (UH9) is still off the list. A search on it will only take you to the medals page.
(They've released the sale dates for the other C&C sets... Have to go find that thread...)
American Liberty 2015 High Relief Gold Coin
Item Number: UH8
Mintage Limit: 50,000
Product Limit: None
Household Order Limit: None
Plain Jane packaging, so pricing should be similar to other 1oz 24k gold.
To TPTB: A continued depressed gold spot for the next three weeks would be appreciated...
too many silver eagles flying out the door?
Much of recent coinage has devolved away from artistic mastery toward flat cartoon-like subjects that fail to inspire.
Normally, I'd be psyched for an UHR, especially gold.
Given the mint's recent stumbles regarding the Jackie Kennedy First Spouse, I'll pass.
<< <i>the numismedia needs to ask what's up with the silver version UH9. >>
Agreed. It's been somewhat big news since they announced the high-relief coins, and to have them just disappear off the schedule is... interesting.
<< <i>too many silver eagles flying out the door? >>
Well, they ran out of SAE blanks (must be those C&C presidential medals), but I haven't bothered to read why. Maybe there's a shortage in the silver supply chain and couldn't allocate 50K+ ounces for the HR medal.
And the eagle wants to cry. look at Goldbully's close up.
I'm still in though.
Alex
thus the delay in the silver medal?
I knew it would happen.
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<< <i>Hey, $100 face value, for a gold coin. Interesting! >>
Yeah, what happened to the oddball $75? >>
You're thinking of the Kennedy half dollar anniversary coin which is 3/4 oz of gold. Definitely an oddball weight but I'm guessing they wanted just enough gold to approximate the dimensions of the half dollar.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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<< <i>I certainly don't think anybody's initials should be on the flag! >>
Hey! I had to call in some favors to get the mint to put my initials on that flag.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>She looks pissed and disappointed. Seems she's turning back wondering where everyone is going.
And the eagle wants to cry. look at Goldbully's close up.
I'm still in though. >>
Some things are a "swing and a miss". Some are just amiss. This one looks like one to take a swing at.
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<< <i>This one looks like one to take a swing at. >>
With a mintage of 50,000 there will be a sell out and it will have a bright future in the aftermarket. Look at the 2009 High Relief Saint with more than twice the mintage.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Is a high relief silver medal harder to strike than a high relief .999 gold medal? Maybe they're still working it out. As I recall, they had a few wrinkles to iron out on the 5 oz. ATBs before they issued them. >>
If I recall correctly the issue with the 5 oz. ATB's was the die size, made in Germany possibly. My memory gets worse with every passing year.
I am in for a couple if the price is right otherwise I will pass.
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<< <i>Hey, $100 face value, for a gold coin. Interesting! >>
Yeah, what happened to the oddball $75? >>
You're thinking of the Kennedy half dollar anniversary coin which is 3/4 oz of gold. Definitely an oddball weight but I'm guessing they wanted just enough gold to approximate the dimensions of the half dollar. >>
No, the denomination was originally planned as $75.
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<< <i>Is a high relief silver medal harder to strike than a high relief .999 gold medal? Maybe they're still working it out. As I recall, they had a few wrinkles to iron out on the 5 oz. ATBs before they issued them. >>
If I recall correctly the issue with the 5 oz. ATB's was the die size, made in Germany possibly. My memory gets worse with every passing year.
I am in for a couple if the price is right otherwise I will pass. >>
They had to special order a press from Germany that would strike the three-inch dies. The dies themselves were made in America.
<< <i>With a mintage of 50,000 there will be a sell out and it will have a bright future in the aftermarket. Look at the 2009 High Relief Saint with more than twice the mintage. >>
The mint demonstrated significant mastery producing the 2009 HR Saint. A work of art, the coin appealed to many non-numismatists, bringing quite a few into the hobby.
If the mint put out a high relief 1 oz. 24K gold $100 with a mintage of no more than 50,000, if it had any uninspiring design, we should expect a sellout and significant long-term upside potential? Take a look at how the higher mintage platinums have faired.
After all, they are the same weight as a gold Buffalo, yet are only somewhat small in diameter. The gold Buffalo is 31.108g in weight and 32.70mm in diameter (2.95mm thick) while this piece is 31.108g in weight and 30.61mm in diameter (no listed thickness). This is in contrast to the 2009 UHR Saint, which was 31.108g in weight and 27.00mm in diameter.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
<< <i>What's the difference between product and mintage limit? >>
Mintage limit is the total number of coins minted
Product limit is the total number of each product such as single coins, three coin sets, proof sets, uncirculated sets, coin & cronicle sets, special sets,
or whatever set includes that coin
<< <i>So if a coin is only released as one product, why isn't the product limit equal to the mintage limit? >>
It is, they just do not list it. It's the Mint, they always leave you guessing what is going on.
Like cowboys do with Mustangs and Cattle.
No household limit!
Make sure you get in on this one.
Alex
<< <i>What do you all think about these compared to the 2009 UHR? >>
Less than half the mintage of the UHR and an attractive design will make this a winner.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>What do you all think about these compared to the 2009 UHR? >>
The 2009 UHR was a replica of America's most beloved coin, created by an incomparable artist. The original 1907 UHR is virtually impossible to acquire, resulting in strong collector interest in the modern copy.
Furthermore, this new interpretation of Liberty lacks the forceful power and classical style of the St Gaudens UHR. It has all appropriate elements and symbolism, but the whole obverse has the appearance of a staged photoshoot.
Despite my criticism, its a nice looking coin, especially the reverse. Still, the 2009 UHR, without question, gets my vote.
<< <i>What do you all think about these compared to the 2009 UHR? >>
If it's half as popular it will do very well (since it will only have half the mintage).
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<< <i>What do you all think about these compared to the 2009 UHR? >>
The 2009 UHR was a replica of America's most beloved coin, created by an incomparable artist. The original 1907 UHR is virtually impossible to acquire, resulting in strong collector interest in the modern copy.
Furthermore, this new interpretation of Liberty lacks the forceful power and classical style of the St Gaudens UHR. It has all appropriate elements and symbolism, but the whole obverse has the appearance of a staged photoshoot.
Despite my criticism, its a nice looking coin, especially the reverse. Still, the 2009 UHR, without question, gets my vote. >>
This is truth. I had to have one of the 2009's. THis, I don't know.
Congrats to:
- Justin Kunz: Mint Artistic Infusion Program artist
- Phebe Hemphill: Mint Medallic Sculptor
- Paul Cainto Balan: Mint Artistic Infusion Program artist
- Donald Nelson Everhart II: Mint Sculptor-Engraver
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<< <i>What do you all think about these compared to the 2009 UHR? >>
The 2009 UHR was a replica of America's most beloved coin, created by an incomparable artist. The original 1907 UHR is virtually impossible to acquire, resulting in strong collector interest in the modern copy.
Furthermore, this new interpretation of Liberty lacks the forceful power and classical style of the St Gaudens UHR. It has all appropriate elements and symbolism, but the whole obverse has the appearance of a staged photoshoot.
Despite my criticism, its a nice looking coin, especially the reverse. Still, the 2009 UHR, without question, gets my vote. >>
This is truth. I had to have one of the 2009's. THis, I don't know. >>
The 2009 HR Saints is a great coin and I bought one but the diameter was too small---about the size of a quarter. This coin should be nicer with it's larger diameter although the relief can't be as high since the planchet will be thinner.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire