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Nikklos · June 16, 2015 7:41AM

I just hope Brent shipped out my 1980 Rack Case today!

KendallCat · June 16, 2015 7:44AM

Nice rack

grote15 · June 16, 2015 7:46AM

I was following that auction, Chris~congrats on the pickup! Are you going to open the case??

LarkinCollector · June 16, 2015 7:46AM

I'm looking forward to the rip threads this will generate

gregf · June 16, 2015 7:54AM

<< I was following that auction, Chris~congrats on the pickup! Are you going to open the case?? >>

I'd think keep it sealed. That's roughly $90 a rack you paid. These racks normally go for about $45 each right?

Congratulations on winning the case!

MantleFan23 · June 16, 2015 7:55AM

<< I'm looking forward to the rip threads this will generate

>>

+1

Chris, Congrats on the pickup.....will be rooting for a Rickey 10! 😀

grote15 · June 16, 2015 7:57AM

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<< I was following that auction, Chris~congrats on the pickup! Are you going to open the case?? >>

I'd think keep it sealed. That's roughly $90 a rack you paid. These racks normally go for about $45 each right?

Congratulations on winning the case! >>

Brent also sold a lot of 5 1980 racks for $455 dlvd. Though that was a strong price, 1980 racks seem to command about $60-$65 a rack now. There is a lot of 24 1980 racks up now on ebay at over $1,500.

If I know Chris, he is going to rip that sucker, LOL..

Hopefully, a rack with Henderson RC on top lurks inside!

Nikklos · June 16, 2015 7:57AM

I'm thinking of keeping the box with Hendu top sealed. But definitely ripping the other two.

timpatg · June 16, 2015 8:00AM

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<< I was following that auction, Chris~congrats on the pickup! Are you going to open the case?? >>

I'd think keep it sealed. That's roughly $90 a rack you paid. These racks normally go for about $45 each right?

Congratulations on winning the case! >>

That's assuming you find absolutely no racks with HOFers on top. A Henderson showing would sell for about $250-275. Not counting the possibilities of multiple Rickeys and other HOFers that would be gradeable.

Nikklos · June 16, 2015 8:02AM

There are also racks that are supposed to have Rose, Ryan etc. showing on top. I will probably keep those sealed as well.

grote15 · June 16, 2015 8:03AM

<< There are also racks that are supposed to have Rose, Ryan etc. showing on top. I will probably keep those sealed as well. >>

Chris, how do you know this if case is sealed?

NM: I thought case was sealed.

gregf · June 16, 2015 8:05AM

Wow I can't believe people pay so much for 1980s racks. I guess things have really changed in the past few years.

At $60 a rack that's already amazing. I guess the extra $30 each is for the FASC premium?

Nikklos · June 16, 2015 8:06AM

Well they're not marked FASC and there's no mention of it in the description so I didn't assume it was. I just wanted A LOT of RACKS all at once!

Nikklos · June 16, 2015 8:08AM

But if the star racks carry a premium (especially the Hendu top) then it makes up a little ground. There are a bunch.

gregf · June 16, 2015 8:09AM

Sorry, just realized this case was assembled and is not factory sealed.

I hope it turns out to be a great case but I would be very careful if ripping anything in it. Someone may have used a few big name racks to lure someone into buying a case full of duds. I hope that's not the case but I believe racks can be thumbed through to see what the cards are like beneath.

Hope I'm wrong here!

seebelow · June 16, 2015 8:19AM

Anyone (Grote) know the price relationship between a case (with how many racks?) and a wax box? I see the wax boxes price rose to around $1100 a box then down to around 750-800 a box recently.
Kind of a per card basis? I don't know how many racks in a case or now many cards in a rack. Or else Id do the math.

Congrats on the case!

grote15 · June 16, 2015 8:23AM

<< Anyone (Grote) know the price relationship between a case (with how many racks?) and a wax box? I see the wax boxes price rose to around $1100 a box then down to around 750-800 a box recently.
Kind of a per card basis? I don't know how many racks in a case or now many cards in a rack. Or else Id do the math.

Congrats on the case! >>

Card countwise, there are 540 cards in a wax box (36 packs x 15 cards per pack) vs 1,044 cards in a rack case (24 racks x 42 cards per rack).

LarkinCollector · June 16, 2015 8:23AM

<< Anyone (Grote) know the price relationship between a case (with how many racks?) and a wax box? I see the wax boxes price rose to around $1100 a box then down to around 750-800 a box recently.
Kind of a per card basis? I don't know how many racks in a case or now many cards in a rack. Or else Id do the math.

Congrats on the case! >>

Not sure about the price relationship, but it should be 72 racks in that case w/42 cards each.

Nikklos · June 16, 2015 8:24AM

Racks have always yielded the most gem mints for me. And to be honest what I really hope are n there are some gem mint Larry Harlows and Rick areuschels!

LarkinCollector · June 16, 2015 8:25AM

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<< Anyone (Grote) know the price relationship between a case (with how many racks?) and a wax box? I see the wax boxes price rose to around $1100 a box then down to around 750-800 a box recently.
Kind of a per card basis? I don't know how many racks in a case or now many cards in a rack. Or else Id do the math.

Congrats on the case! >>

Card countwise, there are 540 cards in a wax box (36 packs x 15 cards per pack) vs 1,044 cards in a rack case (24 racks x 42 cards per rack). >>

That's 1044/rack box, correct? w/3 boxes in the case?

grote15 · June 16, 2015 8:26AM

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<< 

<< Anyone (Grote) know the price relationship between a case (with how many racks?) and a wax box? I see the wax boxes price rose to around $1100 a box then down to around 750-800 a box recently.
Kind of a per card basis? I don't know how many racks in a case or now many cards in a rack. Or else Id do the math.

Congrats on the case! >>

Card countwise, there are 540 cards in a wax box (36 packs x 15 cards per pack) vs 1,044 cards in a rack case (24 racks x 42 cards per rack). >>

That's 1044/rack box, correct? w/3 boxes in the case? >>

Yes. Rack cases came in two versions-3 box cases (more common) and 6 box cases. A wax case contains 20 wax boxes.

ETA: Meant to type 1,044 cards in a rack "box" above, not case.

gregf · June 16, 2015 8:36AM

<< Racks have always yielded the most gem mints for me. And to be honest what I really hope are n there are some gem mint Larry Harlows and Rick areuschels! >>

Understood. Are you weary of racks being searched if they're not FASC, or is that not really much of an issue for the 1980s?

seebelow · June 16, 2015 8:41AM

damn grote...ha..youre awesome....just took the dog out and was doing the numbers in my head....came back (7 minutes later) to edit my post and say i figured it out (wasn't clear on how many boxes per case etc...always seems to change)....and of course grote had posted the answer.....thanks...still laughing.

Nikklos · June 16, 2015 8:44AM

While we're on the topic, I am not all that caught up on the FASC business. Some of the worst garbage I've ever ripped has been FASC and its uniformly garbage throughout the entire box in those cases.

70ToppsFanatic · June 16, 2015 11:06AM

Based on the past "adventures" you have been sharing with us here on the board
my bet is you get the itch and start ripping before the end of September.

As always, enjoy it.

NJ80sBBC · June 16, 2015 11:49AM

So awesome, cannot wait to see the results

esquiresports · June 17, 2015 4:15AM

Very cool pick-up. 1980 rack boxes/cases seem pretty difficult to come by relative to their wax and cello counterparts.

Nikklos · June 22, 2015 10:26PM

My racks are apparently making a cross-country road trip from Oregon to Miami via FedEx Ground. Oh my god, I can't take the wait anymore!

grote15 · June 23, 2015 1:33AM

<< My racks are apparently making a cross-country road trip from Oregon to Miami via FedEx Ground. Oh my god, I can't take the wait anymore! >>

I thought such trips happened only for USPS, lol..

Hope you get them in soon, Chris!

flatfoot816 · June 23, 2015 2:02AM

good luck and congrats--I was the underbidder and would have liked to have added it to my UNOPENED collection

Nikklos · June 23, 2015 2:41AM

<< good luck and congrats--I was the underbidder and would have liked to have added it to my UNOPENED collection >>

Thanks. I have aspirations of keeping one of the boxes unopened! lol we will see.

gregf · June 23, 2015 3:21AM

<< While we're on the topic, I am not all that caught up on the FASC business. Some of the worst garbage I've ever ripped has been FASC and its uniformly garbage throughout the entire box in those cases. >>

This is true, but I think the 100% certainty that the packs haven't been thumbed through is what gives factory sealed cases the premiums they realize.

So if a hand collated 1980 topps baseball rack case goes for $6,803.21, how much would a factory sealed one command? $8,000+?

ldferg · June 23, 2015 3:56AM

Can't wait to see this unfold. I'm interested in a few rack packs if you want to unload any to fellow rippers.

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