"You Suck!" award - history lesson
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Who started the "You Suck!" award and who was the first recipient of this (seemingly) prestigious accolade?
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<< <i>I believe it was Russ
Are we sure it was Cameron Keifer?
Thread circa 2003
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Madmarty and Russ during some of their exchanges, I think. >>
As a member of the YS Hall of Fame, I agree. Marty used to have the members posted on his website, but I think it bit the dust.
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<< <i>Here is the earliest reference to YOU SUCK that I can find. >>
That's a cool thread.
I like this exchange...
<< Marty suggests a profit of 100x the cost minimum. >>
That's way too stiff a requirement. Marty's being an elitist snob and trying to keep people out of the club.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>Seems it was thrown around quite a bit in every day exchanges.
Thread circa 2003 >>
That particular thread is using the "You Suck" statement in a totally different way than the "You Suck" was intended.
"You Suck" was intended as a "sarcastic bravo" for when a collector cherry-picked a coin that had a value of much greater than the initial purchase price. For example, a 1961 sealed proof set purchased for $50 that yielded a 61 DDR Franklin in Deep Cameo, would earn a "You Suck"! A 1961 Franklin DDR purchased for a bit under book value, would not.
In other words, the profit margins had to be up into the 500-1000 times purchase price to get an official "You Suck".
The admonition in the Coin World most certainly started on the PCGS Forums. This isn't to say that folks weren't using "You Suck" for other purposes but for the purpose of high praise, it started here.
Madmarty even started a "You Suck Hall of Fame" web page but the term got misused so often, I'm sure he just gave it up.
You Suck Hall of Fame
As you can see, the first entry on the page refers to a 62-P Franklin which PCGS graded at MS66FBL. I think Marty paid $7 for the coin so, it definitely sucked.
Here's the thread. Graded at MS66FBL!
Since Marty authored the page and was and an active "suckee", I can only assume that the MadMarty/Russ "Deep Cameo/FBL Half Dollar Wars" of the past was a solid basis for the continuance of the admonition/award.
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Seems it was thrown around quite a bit in every day exchanges.
Thread circa 2003 >>
Do I know you from somewhere?
Sean Reynolds
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<< <i>I think it started in the Clinton era. >>
You are SOOO Bad!
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>I think it started in the Clinton era. >>
You are SOOO Bad!
1 for a 1953-S MS65FBL Franklin , and 1 for a 1962-D 25¢ MS67 when it was only a pop 2.
Did anybody else get double suckered?