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JCMhouston
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Well at least I got the one I really wanted, this was the one coin I really , really "needed", and they only seem to come up for sale every 5-10 years. Although some of the early proofs and Crown size pieces went for big money by the time mine came up the prices were very reasonable.
1812 Bank of England Token, NGC PF63. Rated Extremely Rare in ESC, seemingly around 20 or so surviving specimens but they sure don't come up for sale very often. There are two reverses known, this one the most common, and another with Nine Pence (rather than 9 d) as the value.
Geo. III had been on the throne since 1860 but there had only been a mintage of regular silver in 1787 with shillings and sixpence. They had of course used counter stamped coinage but usually only in 1/2 Crown and Crown size, and merchant tokens had been used for some years primarily in copper but also some issues in silver. With the wars with France bleeding the government of silver the Crown finally permitted the Bank of England to issue tokens authorizing 9 pence, 18 pence (1 Shilling 6 pence) and 36 pence (3 Shillings). The 18 and 36 pence tokens were issued on both proof and mint state beginning in 1811, but the 9 pence was only struck in proof for trials in 1812, it never had a regular issue.
And since I got that one well under my max I was able to bid on two Vicky pieces I was interested in, both of which I thought went very reasonably.
1860 Farthing, NGC PF 65 BN, Young Head rated R19 by Freeman, 2-5 known.
Lastly I was able to get a proof Penny for a reasonable price. Even though this is the most common date for the proof of record pennies they have been going for $3k and up for the past several years, and honestly I just couldn't see the value in that.
1868 Penny, PCGS PF 65 RD, Young Head, rated R17 by Freeman, less than 50 known.
1812 Bank of England Token, NGC PF63. Rated Extremely Rare in ESC, seemingly around 20 or so surviving specimens but they sure don't come up for sale very often. There are two reverses known, this one the most common, and another with Nine Pence (rather than 9 d) as the value.
Geo. III had been on the throne since 1860 but there had only been a mintage of regular silver in 1787 with shillings and sixpence. They had of course used counter stamped coinage but usually only in 1/2 Crown and Crown size, and merchant tokens had been used for some years primarily in copper but also some issues in silver. With the wars with France bleeding the government of silver the Crown finally permitted the Bank of England to issue tokens authorizing 9 pence, 18 pence (1 Shilling 6 pence) and 36 pence (3 Shillings). The 18 and 36 pence tokens were issued on both proof and mint state beginning in 1811, but the 9 pence was only struck in proof for trials in 1812, it never had a regular issue.
And since I got that one well under my max I was able to bid on two Vicky pieces I was interested in, both of which I thought went very reasonably.
1860 Farthing, NGC PF 65 BN, Young Head rated R19 by Freeman, 2-5 known.
Lastly I was able to get a proof Penny for a reasonable price. Even though this is the most common date for the proof of record pennies they have been going for $3k and up for the past several years, and honestly I just couldn't see the value in that.
1868 Penny, PCGS PF 65 RD, Young Head, rated R17 by Freeman, less than 50 known.
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<< <i>Do you sense a softening in British pricing levels? >>
Not until I put some up for sale.
Seeing the exceptional collections and insights and in particular the superb Crown/Taler posts (JamminJ, EVP, worldcoinguy and others) have greatly inspired me. I found myself buying scarcer and more qualitative coins over time, spending more on far fewer coins, selling the more common types. Its natural and contagious. Some gain comfort in spreading $200 over $20 coins, I prefer owning one better $200 coin. I also have more fear and less trust in the stock market than physical assets so don't mind parking funds in these round things. Knowledge, research and patience are key like any investment.
While I know nothing about JCM's pickups or their relative price, I just know these are quite attractive and I wholeheartedly appreciate him sharing these with us trough the posts and customized websites he has built.
Cheers,
Z
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<< <i>They're all nice, but that farthing is great. >>
I agree with Lord M.
I love that farthing!
Still, I applaud JCM for traveling on the road less traveled. And, picking up pretty little buttons along the way.
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Well, just Love coins, period.
Yes I think what you said is entirely correct. I was not trying to come off sounding like a jerk, so sorry if I did. I always am optimistic to find overlooked more common coins in better condition than I can usually afford that might slip by more advanced collectors who already own similar examples in these auctions. This obviously applies more towards the weekly auctions than the name sales at large shows like CICF.
JCM bought wonderful pieces and I also appreciate seeing them and living vicariously. It gives me something to work towards. Already from the example of folks here I have made better purchases and strengthened both the number and quality of the coins in my collection.
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I agree with Lord M.
I love that farthing!
me too! YUMMY!!!