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KSorboKSorbo Posts: 152 ✭✭✭
I just picked up this 1787 Draped Bust Left Connecticut copper and am trying to find out about its die variety and rarity. I compared it with the available photos on the Notre Dame and Coinfacts sites and the closest I could come up with was 37.8HH. The reverse is distinctive in that the branch in Liberty's hand points to the bottom dot in the colon after "INDE" and the 37.8HH reverse looked right on. The obverse however was a bit different due to the star devices above the portrait.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome to the forum. Can you post pictures of it?
  • KSorboKSorbo Posts: 152 ✭✭✭
    I'm having some issues with the file attachment. I selected "Attach Files" and uploaded them, but it will not let me post them.
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • KSorboKSorbo Posts: 152 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the help! BTW this is a PCGS VG 10 Draped Bust Left
  • indeetlibindeetlib Posts: 607 ✭✭
    Welcome Kirk!

    Yup, 37.8-HH indeed. I'm impressed you were able to figure out the attribution from those sites. This is a somewhat scarce variety, probably low to mid R.5, and is rare in better than VF. The typical one I see is VG. Yours is definitely better than average.
  • KSorboKSorbo Posts: 152 ✭✭✭
    Thanks so much for the help Indeetlib! When I saw your user name I figured you would have the answer.

    So would this coin carry a premium due to its variety? I bought it as a type coin due to its overall pleasing surfaces but it's nice to have one with some rarity. Was 100 bucks a good deal?
  • indeetlibindeetlib Posts: 607 ✭✭
    It's a good coin at that price. A lot of '87 Draped Busts in VG10 holders wouldn't be worth $100, but this one's better due to the die variety, the ET LIR legend, and the better than average surfaces. I grade it F12, fwiw. Some of the peripheral weakness is due to the die state.

    Is this your first CT? If so, you only have 350 some odd die varieties to go! image
  • KSorboKSorbo Posts: 152 ✭✭✭
    Thanks again for the great info! I didn't realize that with the ET LIR legend that this is a Redbook variety to boot.

    I have another CT but it is buried in my safe deposit box back in Iowa, otherwise I would post it. It is attributed as a CONNLC variety but I'm not sure how accurate that is.

    Since I am ADHD in my collecting habits I would probably have to live to be 150 to complete the 350 varieties. Nonetheless I enjoy learning about the coins I acquire. In this case I could have spent 100 bucks on some proof moderns and gotten lots of bling, but instead I can have the satisfaction of owning a piece of early American history of a variety with less than 100 pieces in existence.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,318 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome!

    Hook up with indeetlib. He is one of the best colonial guys on here...

    John
  • DaveWcoinsDaveWcoins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Welcome!

    Hook up with indeetlib. He is one of the best colonial guys on here...

    John >>



    +1
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  • msch1manmsch1man Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In this case I could have spent 100 bucks on some proof moderns and gotten lots of bling, but instead I can have the satisfaction of owning a piece of early American history of a variety with less than 100 pieces in existence. >>



    I couldn't agree more...I think you got a really cool coin for 100 bucks!
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>In this case I could have spent 100 bucks on some proof moderns and gotten lots of bling, but instead I can have the satisfaction of owning a piece of early American history of a variety with less than 100 pieces in existence. >>



    I couldn't agree more...I think you got a really cool coin for 100 bucks! >>


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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Attaching does not work properly here

    It is advised to use an image hosting service and the IMG code method of posting pictures

    Nice find you have there

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,673 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin. It has a little of that "Circulated Cameo" look I like.

    To explain my "CircCam" terminology to the new person, it is basically a coin with darker toning in the fields and lighter on the high points, like the devices or lettering. That contrast makes the design "pop".

    Here are a few examples.

    CircCam is usually a silver thing. It's hard to find on problem-free copper coins, but I think your CT copper fits the bill. image

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome aboard KSorbo... very nice copper.... Is this your focus area?? Cheers, RickO
  • KSorboKSorbo Posts: 152 ✭✭✭
    Thanks everyone for the great feedback! At this point I don't have any narrow areas of focus in my collecting because there are so many coins that I like. I'm a type collector at heart and enjoy classic US coins that have relatively low survival rates and are reasonably priced, preferably certified and problem free. Colonials are high on my list but unfortunately there aren't many of them that are certified, problem free and cheap. They come along every once in a while though so I am always on the lookout. Being a history buff I find myself drawn toward earlier coins.

    BTW I really enjoyed reading the thread about "cameo" circulated coins. Sometimes a nice circulated coin can have better eye appeal than one that is uncirculated, and when it comes to classic coins sometimes a nice circulated piece is the only viable option.

    I've participated on Coin Talk for a while now and have enjoyed it so much that I thought this forum would also be worthwhile. So far I am certainly not disappointed!

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