1983-P Quarter Error

lostincoins · February 8, 2015 2:59PM

This is a 1983-P quarter with the spitting eagle error along with the other visible issues you see. What shoul this quarter weigh? opinions on this coin would be welcome, thank you. Sorry the images are not that good if you need better images just ask and I will post them within 24 hrs thank you for the understanding.( I am organizing my imaging setup at the moment)

BustHalfBrian · February 8, 2015 3:03PM

Shouldn't it weigh just as much as a normal quarter? I didn't think an o/c strike added/removed any metal...

AUandAG · February 8, 2015 3:04PM

<< Shouldn't it weigh just as much as a normal quarter? I didn't think an o/c strike added/removed any metal... >>

+1

lostincoins · February 8, 2015 3:04PM

That is the question, what should a normal 1983-P quarter weigh?

richbeat · February 8, 2015 3:08PM

5.67 grams.

lostincoins · February 8, 2015 3:16PM

<< 5.67 grams.

>>

Correct very correct but my quarter has lost some weight and is weighing in at 5 grams on the nose! This has me thinking and as such I am going to go to a trusted shop tomorrow to verify this as my scale is weighing all coins correctly. What say you all?

Browe · February 8, 2015 10:42PM

Could it be a quarter struck on a nickel planchet struck o/c?

crypto79 · February 8, 2015 10:53PM

<< Could it be a quarter struck on a nickel planchet struck o/c? >>

Maybe this but the size doesn't look right for that and it would be an easy check for the clad layer. Knowing the OP, I would guess his scale was off.

TwoSides2aCoin · February 8, 2015 11:04PM

That's different. Send it in, won't you ?

Rampage · February 8, 2015 11:25PM

<< Could it be a quarter struck on a nickel planchet struck o/c? >>

That looks like a quarter planchet from where I am sitting.

ricko · February 8, 2015 11:31PM

I had an '83P quarter in my pocket just now....(no spitting eagle) and it weighs correctly.... Cheers, RickO

lostincoins · February 8, 2015 11:35PM

<< 

<< Could it be a quarter struck on a nickel planchet struck o/c? >>

Maybe this but the size doesn't look right for that and it would be an easy check for the clad layer. Knowing the OP, I would guess his scale was off. >>

What is the point of this comment crypto? My scale is not off at all as stated if you actually read the comments, I know to much to ask the great crypto to actually read a post before replying.
As to the clad layer, There is no copper showing on the edge of the coin along with no reading. As I also stated I will be taking it to a trusted shop to get their opinion and to have them verify the weight. Have a great day guys and I will post info tonight, thanks to those that are commenting.

BustHalfBrian · February 9, 2015 1:37AM

*insert GIF of Scarlett Johansson eating popcorn*

GoldenEgg · February 9, 2015 1:57AM

If it is 5.0 grams and shows no copper along the edge, I would say that it is likely an off center quarter struck on a nickel planchet. The area that comes into contact with the larger diameter dies can expand and thin quite a bit when struck - especially with planchets of somewhat similar weight and diameter. And because it isn't that far off center, the expansion occurred over much more area, causing it to appear similar to being struck on a quarter planchet.

I hope that you get the answer that you're hoping for! Let us know.

FredWeinberg · February 9, 2015 3:12AM

Although the given weight of this piece says 'struck on a nickel planchet',
based on the images alone, and not seeing the coin in-hand, it certainly
doesn't look like it's struck off center on a nickel planchet to me.

OP - are you SURE there's no copper showing on the edge of the coin?

Anything is possible, but my eye does not see that quarter as being
on a nickel planchet......

19Lyds · February 9, 2015 4:00AM

<< *insert GIF of Scarlett Johansson eating popcorn* >>

StrikeOutXXX · February 9, 2015 4:21AM

Errors are cool enough in themselves, but an error on a variety, double fun!!!

crypto79 · February 9, 2015 7:51AM

<< Although the given weight of this piece says 'struck on a nickel planchet',
based on the images alone, and not seeing the coin in-hand, it certainly
doesn't look like it's struck off center on a nickel planchet to me.

OP - are you SURE there's no copper showing on the edge of the coin?

Anything is possible, but my eye does not see that quarter as being
on a nickel planchet...... >>

Looks like light bouncing off of copper over by Trust to these eyes

SanctionII · February 9, 2015 8:52AM

Certainly looks like a clad quarter planchet to me.

For one thing the size of the metal disk is large enough for the entire obverse and reverse design of a Washington Quarter to fit on it. The planchet and the dies were not lined up and thus the result of the striking is what you seen in the photo. If you took a regular 1983 P clad quarter and place it on top of the pictured coin the two coins would match up in size.

If it were a nickel planchet instead of a quarter planchet the design of the quarter would not fit entirely on the planchet. Take a regular 1983 nickel and place it on top of the pictured coin and some of the pictured coin would extend beyond the rims of the nickel.

How about a photo of the edge of the coin and a photo of the coin next to a regular quarter and a regular nickel?

Interesting coin with a date and mint that is hard to find in Gem condition.

lostincoins · February 9, 2015 9:11AM

It weighs 5 grams exactly and I have someone looking at it and will have it back tomorrow or the next day. The reason is they have someone who can check the make up of the metal as the edges do no show copper and are silver in color. This at this point does not mean it is a nickel as the clad layer could have stretched with the rest of the coin. Not having any reeding on the edge could have helped eith this as it would not have had all those weaker spots to crack at to show copper.

Could this be an underweight planchet also? If so would this help keep the clad layer on the edge?

Timbuk3 · February 9, 2015 12:57PM

Wow, so cool !!! :-)

FredWeinberg · February 10, 2015 12:33AM

The metal flowing outward on an Off Center strike
would not 'cover' the copper core - so we still have
a bit of a mystery - as I said earlier, it just doesn't
look like it's a nickel planchet at all.

I'll be interested to see the edge, or a new report
on the coin today.

As far as the date, although 1983 is a scarce date
for Ch.BU quarters, it is a very common date for
off center quarters......the most common date in the '80's, imo.

lostincoins · February 10, 2015 12:48AM

Hey Fred If I get the coin back today I will image the edge of the coin for you. The guy I gave it to is doing a metal analysis on it as he has a friend at the university with a X-Ray Fluorescence (XRF) gun. I also learned from him that the gun can be used to test for banned or toxic metals in plastics that can leach into items held in the plastic. Could be interesting to check out different holders and see what they read. I am currently at the mercy of the guy getting permission to use the gun so stay tuned.

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