PCGS old holder gold, upgrades?

puffer · January 9, 2015 7:09AM

There was a great deal of interest in these coins though the guy posted over at Coin Talk: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/wts-gold-coins-several-rare.257533
WTS: Gold Coins - Several Rare

Discussion in 'For Sale'

Are there any upgrades likely with that group of coins?

Rampage · January 9, 2015 7:16AM

Your link is no good. You have the http and https in there. You only need one of them.

puffer · January 9, 2015 7:32AM

Old holder, lock upgrade?

CuKevin · January 9, 2015 7:35AM

Old holder does not mean it's a lock upgrade. I've seen some people try very hard to get an old holder coin to upgrade, even sending it in raw, with no luck.

BAJJERFAN · January 9, 2015 7:36AM

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Old holder, lock upgrade? >>

Unless they haven't seen the light of day since they were holdered, there is no assurance they will upgrade. Generally speaking most of those OGHs that will/would upgrade have probably already been tried.

Kyle · January 9, 2015 7:44AM

Fixed Link

roadrunner · January 9, 2015 7:45AM

Probably not. Most of the grades on those coins don't have big swings by going up a point. Seems to me they'd have already gotten opinions on potential upgrades before offering them here. The 1910-s $10 MS63 would have a double if it upgraded. But the photos seem to show it as just an average 63. How many times have we heard the "Grandpa's Estate" story on Ebay. This time it's Grandma's Collection. It's not even really a "collection," just a mix of gold coins. Was Grandma a cherry picker?

OGH gold is pretty consistent within today's standards. Now if these were all rattlers the odds would be a lot different. And now that these coins have sat in holders for at least 15 years you have the potential to get no grades on any coins that were puttied, thumbed, or played with. Standards are a lot tougher these days in that regard.

puffer · January 9, 2015 7:52AM

It is pretty impressive how much these coins, especially the Carson city coins have appreciated over the years. When they were first slabbed the premiums were much lower so grading was probably a little tighter so as to accentuate major qualitative variation.

Timbuk3 · January 9, 2015 8:06AM

There still sweet !!!

crypto79 · January 9, 2015 8:24AM

Just about everyone of those looks to have a shot at an upgrade esp the 89cc

puffer · January 9, 2015 8:56AM

<< Just about everyone of those looks to have a shot at an upgrade esp the 89cc >>

But it looks like it needs PCGS restoration.

Hard to know what it is worth before that:

Price Guide
Grade Coin World
(Coin Values) Numismedia
Retail Numismedia
Wholesale Heritage Value
Index NGC
Price Guide NGC+ PCGS
Price Guide PCGS+

58 $18,500 $10,240 $7,875 $4,400-$5,400 $8,100 $9,200 $11,000 $11,500
60 $25,000 $10,560 $8,450 $5,750-$7,250 $9,800 $10,600 $13,000

ms70 · January 9, 2015 9:15AM

I don't see any upgrade potential from the pics.

puffer · January 9, 2015 10:22AM

Looks like a buyer listed the coin: Text

Cougar1978 · January 9, 2015 10:25AM

nice coins - I would be nervous cracking them out.

crypto79 · January 9, 2015 10:43AM

<< Looks like a buyer listed the coin: Text >>

I stand corrected, you pictures really softened to look of those, that 89cc is not even a high end 58 let alone upgrade Candidate

ricko · January 10, 2015 1:22AM

Nice old gold..... just keep as is......Cheers, RickO

puffer · January 10, 2015 1:48AM

<< 

<< Looks like a buyer listed the coin: Text >>

I stand corrected, you pictures really softened to look of those, that 89cc is not even a high end 58 let alone upgrade Candidate >>

Sold for $9000.

PCGS old holder gold, upgrades?

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