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Just a hypothetical situation to post...
tahoe98
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...If a collector wanted to take a coin to a PCGS authorized dealer to have submitted but was nervous about having the coin switched, and decided beforehand, to photo the coin to try and prove the coin returned was indeed the coin submitted, and not say a word unless the coin returned was suspect?
As said just hypothetical and wondered if this has ever been tried and what are your thoughts?
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The collector involved had no photo of the original coin and was never able to prove the misdeed.
2) It can't hurt to do it, after all it's just a photo
Latin American Collection
I won't say that coins are never switched, but believe it is very rare.
If you are taking pictures, include the submittor's name and the current date, such as on a newspaper, in the picture.
If you don't show the pictures at the time of submission, or at the time of pickup after slabbing, but take them home and later claim that a switch was made, how does the dealer know that you did not switch pictures with those of a nicer coin?
hands photo & details of the coin to customer and sends to TPG.
When the coin returns calls customer to come pick up his/her freshly TPG graded coin.
32d,32s,34d,35d,36d,37,37d,37s,38,38s,39s.
I see a question mark at the end of a run on sentence.
<< <i>There is no such things as a hypothetical question (within reason, of course). If you can imagine it, it has happened. >>
+1
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
<< <i>A B&M near me takes a photo of said coin and also writes down all identifying marks/characteristics in detail and takes the submitting fee & a small handling fee
hands photo & details of the coin to customer and sends to TPG.
When the coin returns calls customer to come pick up his/her freshly TPG graded coin. >>
...Sounds like a dealer made in heaven!
<< <i>Get a membership >>
This.
Or, submit directly to PCGS at a show ...
Or, piggyback on a trusted friend's submission.
Several solutions, all workable if one doesn't want to use an authorized dealer.
Forgot it got me a nice Calendar for the New Year.
<< <i>A B&M near me takes a photo of said coin and also writes down all identifying marks/characteristics in detail and takes the submitting fee & a small handling fee
hands photo & details of the coin to customer and sends to TPG.
When the coin returns calls customer to come pick up his/her freshly TPG graded coin. >>
That's the way to do it, protecting himself and the customer.
Here are my two thoughts...
1. I see nothing wrong with your idea. For that matter, why not take the pics in front of the dealer?
2. This is the very reason I only accept raw submissions from customers and friends I have worked with extensively. If the PCGS grader is kind enough to wipe a piece of dust off a coin, I might be accused of switching out a coin on a collector. I'd rather make my $5 another way.
As always, just my two cents.
Wondercoin
...Thanks all for the response to the hypothetical question/statement ...
I've had ONE coin I needed to really get certified for grade and (apologies to the forum), just got a cheap ANACS membership and did it there.
If you have a concern, you should get it done yourself one way or another.
<< <i>1) I wouldn't do business with someone I couldn't trust. Just get a membership and submit directly in the case of such concern.
2) It can't hurt to do it, after all it's just a photo >>
Agree.
What's another $69 after all the other fees associated with getting a coin graded anyway? Shipping, handling, Insurance, packaging.
Especially if its a valuable coin.
The name is LEE!
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>There is no such things as a hypothetical question (within reason, of course). If you can imagine it, it has happened. >>
I've imagined dirty gold showing up in the mail, but it hasn't happened yet.