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1934 DDO FS-101 (FS-013.79) Verification

Good Evening All,

I recently picked this coin up off eBay, because I could see some interesting die scratches on the obverse that matched the diagnostics to the 1934 DDO. The secondary date appears to be faint and difficult to see. I'd love some additional opinions on the coin and have provided pictures. I can certainly add additional ones if need be to verify the variety. I'm of course hoping it's all there, and thanks to everyone for their help!

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  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    That is really faint.

    BUT..... I do think it may be that variety!

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    The marker below the tie looks like the right spot but I'm not sure about the direction the top of the line veers.

    Try getting pics of the lower 93 with different lighting to verify it.



    (revised)
    Ed
  • Imo if one needs die scratches to verify if it is a specific doubled die, then it isn't much of a doubled die.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Imo if one needs die scratches to verify if it is a specific doubled die, then it isn't much of a doubled die. >>


    +1
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    << Imo if one needs die scratches to verify if it is a specific doubled die, then it isn't much of a doubled die. >>

    That is true but if it's that variety it would be one of the highest graded of very few examples of a CPG listed variety that has demand and is worth big bucks so it would be a super find IF it matches. image

    Ed
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Imo if one needs die scratches to verify if it is a specific doubled die, then it isn't much of a doubled die. >>



    If it really is FS-101 it is a $1k< coin.

    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of the diagnostics for this variety is a die break line between the R and U in TRUST on the obverse. Don't see it on yours. See variety vista for more info..


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  • BroweBrowe Posts: 236 ✭✭✭


    << <i>One of the diagnostics for this variety is a die break line between the R and U in TRUST on the obverse. Don't see it on yours. See variety vista for more info.. >>



    I changed the lighting a bit which shows the die break line between the R and U better. Thanks all for the input.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,554 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know if that is a doubled die or not.

    What I do know is that if, with that much magnification, you still have to wonder about it it is not worth bothering with.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't know. I'm having difficulty in even seeing the known characteristics.

    Sent it in and get it attributed.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • luckybucksluckybucks Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭
    Very nice '34 wheatie. !!
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations if it is the DDO.... what I can see are barely shadows of a DD.... the diagnostics do appear to be there though... Cheers, RickO
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Description: Very strong spread Northwest and slight rotation with light hubbing as extra center high points of the 93 of the date. It appears that the offset was significant enough that the pressman realized it before applying much pressure and reset the hub on the die for its final hubbing.

    Browe, This is James Wiles description of the variety. While not a prolific doubled die, it is a strange circumstance that caused the wide spread on the remnants of the date. With the die break between the R and U, looks like
    you have found one. Yours appears to be very late die state, and may affect the value if you sell. I have handled 6 of these over the years, and they have all varied in strength of the remnants. Congratulations on a great find!
    Below is the earliest die state that I have seen.


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  • BroweBrowe Posts: 236 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Description: Very strong spread Northwest and slight rotation with light hubbing as extra center high points of the 93 of the date. It appears that the offset was significant enough that the pressman realized it before applying much pressure and reset the hub on the die for its final hubbing.

    Browe, This is James Wiles description of the variety. While not a prolific doubled die, it is a strange circumstance that caused the wide spread on the remnants of the date. With the die break between the R and U, looks like
    you have found one. Yours appears to be very late die state, and may affect the value if you sell. I have handled 6 of these over the years, and they have all varied in strength of the remnants. Congratulations on a great find!
    Below is the earliest die state that I have seen. >>



    Thank you so much for your insight. In your opinion is this worth sending in. The secondary date is quite faint, do you think this will be attributed? I completely agree that this is a very late die state, but I do believe this to be the correct variety. Thank you!
  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, Mel is the go to guy, and I hate to disagree with the master but I do not think that is the DDO for the simple reason the mark under the 3 is not in the proper angel/position. Its too much curved under the 3 while on the DDO, its almost in a North-south position.
    WS


    Your coin Vs a pic Mel took some time back.

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