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The story of lot 403 - Sorry this set is not for sale. Post of the year 2007

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  • Edited due to undeserved sensitivity on my part.

    Jeff


  • << <i>Wow,

    Great find and a great story.

    Congratulations. >>

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    great story, thanks
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great story, though rumor has it that some YN put that set together.

    I'm not sure why you felt this comment was necessary. I can most definitely assure you that the story is exactly as was represented. It never ceases to amaze me that someone has to crap all over the best things on this board.




    Cool story. But is there anything to TwoSides2aCoin's comment? More details would be appricated. Otherwise, I want to believe in the original....of course!! image


  • CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Now that was a good post! image >>

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  • GREAT post!!! Whether fact or fiction, doesn't take away from the inspiration I got from it. image
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  • Edited due to undeserved sensitivity on my part.

    Jeff
  • I just wanted to say thanks again to Tim. After reading this the other night I contacted him to see if he would allow me to post his story on my site, numistories.com. I receive about 1500 unique visitors monthly and this is just too good of a story not to be shared with as many people as possible. Thanks Tim!

    Mojo
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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will offer a "You Suck" if it has not already been given, and only in the most congratulatory fashion.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,554 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Cool story. But is there anything to TwoSides2aCoin's comment? More details would be appricated. Otherwise, I want to believe in the original....of course!!

    I posted the story on page 2 and it is completely accurate. What purpose could there possibly be for making up this story? It's not like Texast was trying to sell the set by creating some bogus story. He was honestly moved by the history he saw within the set. I was amazed to find the story since I put the auction together. I saw the set as just one more item in a collection that I was liquidating for Bobby's heirs. Texast looked deeper and saw the real value of the set. I am just very happy that he is the one that ended up with it, since it will be admired for what it truly is.

    I printed the original thread back in 2007 and presented it to his brother (who is 83, but somehow has a YN brother!). He was literally brought to tears in my office. It is clear in the pictures posted in the thread that there is older style 2x2's and print that changes as the years go on. How was that put together by a YN?

    I don't know what ax TwoSides2aCoin has to grind. Noone has ever questioned me (or Texast, as far as I know) about the authenticity. I can tell you that I'm a pretty easy-going guy and not easily ticked off, but TwoSides2aCoin is just being an ass! He has yet to respond to either this thread or my PM's.image

    Jeff >>




    2sides2acoin is like some other members.....he's a nice guy underneath, but most of his comments on the forum have almost nothing to do with anything (ie...just incoherent words incoherently put together image ).
    Not an attack on him, since he just tries to be funny, but also, just calling it like I see it.

    So, he likely didn't mean anything mean-spirited by his comment. Maybe he was trying to be funny about an age thing in there and the way the writing spanned many years on the collection....I don't know.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Back to coins, boys and girls.
  • WalmannWalmann Posts: 2,806
    Pretty sure the YN comments means that the gentleman that put the set together was most likely a youngster when he started assembling the collection, hence he was a YN.

    Hats off to Texast for keeping that once youthful endeavor going.
  • Agreed, back to coins.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thursday August 02, 2007 10:51 AM



    This past weekend I had noticed a link on the message board to an auction on Proxybid, out of curiosity I went to the site, registered for the auction and started to browse the listings.

    After a while I noticed a set of BU / Proof Lincoln Cents, 1937 to 1998, the description said it was mostly completed. The picture in the auction showed a blue three ring binder full of pennies in 2x2 holders. I went ahead and bid on the auction, winning it for $81.00, plus the 15% buyers fee and shipping.

    Today I got the set in the mail and started to look through it. What I found I never expected.

    As I opened the folder I could see bright red pennies, starting with the 1937 Philadelphia strike, going along each and every spot was filed with the regular issue P, D &S that you would expect, as I turned to the next page I could see more bright red pennies, and the gleaming Steel Cents of 1943. I noticed a spot next to the 1955 where a coin had been, was it the 1955 Doubled Die, I will never know, someone had removed it, turning the pages more I found the same empty spot next to the 1972.

    Still I thought what a set, and I began looking closer, this was no ordinary set. Someone had taken a lifetime to collect these pennies, I looked closer and found the clean crisp writing of the dates and mint marks in the earlier years, I noticed that over the years the staples had changed type, for a few years in the late forties and early fifties he used a date stamp made for collectors that had the mintmarks on them, I saw that he had carefully marked the 44’s and 45’s as Shell Case cents, in the 60’s he started to include the Proof cents for each year.

    Then in the mid 80’s I noticed that the writing was not as crisp, his hand was a little more shaky, the dates written on the coins not a smooth as previous years, each year getting a little more distorted, once in a while I would notice in the early 90’s a fingerprint hear and there, 1997 was missing all together, then 1998, you could barley read the writing on the holder, his hand no longer able to write clearly. And the set ends. He had included some extras on the last page, a nice BU 34, and a few others.

    Over the next hour I started to realize just how much work he had put into this set, always trying to put together the best he could get. I began to wonder about this person, and how he must have treasured his set of pennies. I would imagine that he passed not to long after putting in his last cent and wondered if there was anyone that would ever appreciate his work.

    Well sir, I never meet you, but as I write this the hair on the back of my neck is standing on end, my eyes are beginning to water, and I want you to know, I appreciate your set, and I will never sell it. I can only hope that when I go someone will get this set and feel the way I do about it. I will pick up where you left off, and keep each coin together in the set. Your work was not in vain.

    Lot 403… Is not for sale.

    Tex
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    << <i>As I promissed earlier here are some of the pictures of Bobby's Pennies so the rest of the board can also enjoy his collection.

    I may talk with a few others, maybe we can finish the set, put the story together and donate it for display to the ANA Museum. I think that would be a nice way to remember Bobby.

    I reduced the size as much as possible for the dialuppers.

    Tex

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    TTT for those who were YN's when this started image




  • LostSislerLostSisler Posts: 521 ✭✭✭
    I'm sorry, I rarely change my old posts!
    Please email me at sisler@money.org and we can get the paperwork started on this unique collection (if you are still interested, of-course).
    Thanks so much.
    Because to Err is Human.
    I specialize in Errors, Minting, Counterfeit Detection & Grading.
    Computer-aided grading, counterfeit detection, recognition and imaging.
  • TexastTexast Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭
    An old post for the new guys............
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  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154
    Damn. Post of the year for me.

    Edit: Even if it was an old post. image
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very image love see some of the old post it's like old coins. image


    Hoard the keys.
  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭
    I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday but I remembered this thread and my post from six years ago. image

    I thought it was a great story then too.


    Mike
  • TexastTexast Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭
    Well it seems to be time for another yearly bump...At least while I can still see...

    After a five year battle with Cancer, which I won!, it seems some of the side effects of the treatment took its toll. Just Imagine, when I was 11 years old I was going through Mint sealed bags of 72 Lincoln cents looking for the prized double dies not needing any magnifying glass to look for doubling, to having Cataracts at 53. November 2009 I was diagnosed, 2011 I almost died from the Cancer, given just days to live, Then given the last of the Sacrament's that you can be given by the Catholic Church, after that things started turning around. and just last month, I was told that I was finally Cancer Free. So I'll live with the side effects for the rest of my life, I still exist, three years after coming so close to death.

    I still have the penny collection, and of course - Lot 403 is still --- Not For Sale.

    It's good to be back on the board, Tim aka TexasT
    On BS&T Now: Nothing.
    Fighting the Fight for 11 Years with the big "C" - Never Ever Give Up!
    Member PCGS Open Forum board 2002 - 2006 (closed end of 2006) Current board since 2006 Successful trades with many members, over the past two decades, never a bad deal.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Glad you are still with us and still enjoy your set....

    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭


    as many other have stated, this is one of the best posts I have ever read.....

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great thread!
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Texast - a true gentleman collector image
  • SmEagle1795SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a beautiful story - that is really what collecting should be about. The first thought that came to mind was that someone must have taken out the 55DDO and 72, and I think we, as a forum, should complete the set for him. I don't know if it is against forum rules at all but if it is legal, I'd happily donate toward the purchase of the missing coins.
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  • this really is a true collecting story..

    A man collecting for the love of the coin.... and the same man being abused by fakers and dealers. All he wanted was a real coin to simply enjoy for himself.
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wonderful post. I'm glad this story was shared. And congrats on beating cancer! Great news.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • jrt103jrt103 Posts: 419 ✭✭✭
    wow.. what an uplifting thread. Thank you for sharing it all with us

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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Texast image
  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭

    Tim, as with Bobby's story, yours is full of life. We all face eventually what you and Bobby face (have faced), it's all part of life. Your grand nephew will keep the provenance going on lot 403, will add to the story with coins of his own, and numismatics will live. This is the first I have read this thread and have been inspired. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all.
    Paul

    Paul
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tim, this is a great old post that I never noticed before. Thanks for bringing it back. Best of luck to you in difficult times and Merry Christmas.

  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tim, thank you very much for bumping your thread. This may be the single greatest thread I've ever read on here. I am thinking about you as you fight cancer again. Best wishes.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks to you Tim, I've read this many times. Great story and now I see it will have a great ending going to your great nephew. Like you he will probably find his way here to this forum someday and then we get to hear his excitement as well.
    I hope you get that cancer beat back asap. Merry Christmas, my friend.

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a great story! Your writing skill is evidenced by the way you were able to transfer your emotions in such a way. Your young great nephew will surely carry on what Bobby started and you have been careful to preserve all these years.

  • jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome!!!

  • StorkStork Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a wonderful story, and so glad your nephew sounds like 'one of us'. Thanks for the bump! I do hope your health stabilizes.


  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭

    I can't begin to guess how many thousands of posts I've read here over the years, and this is one I remember very well. I know it really resonated with me. Sorry to hear of your health woes, TexasT, hoping things get brighter for you, and glad to see you can still shoot the breeze with us.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Know this is the coin collecting hobby I love to hear about.
    One big smile here :)<3

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tim, I had not read this story before, and it is one of the best threads I have seen here. I know it has touched many hearts. I am very glad to see that your LIncoln set will be in good hands. Merry Christmas and best wishes.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for bringing this story up again. Best wishes for your fight against cancer, and congratulations on finding a family member to pass your collection to. From the time this was first posted until now has been 9 years. 9 years from now, I hope we'll see your grand-nephew posting here as an enthusiastic YN, perhaps reviving a thread older than he is.

  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good luck in your battle with the illness, and this thread has been one I remember all the time. Quite inspirational . . .just like your personal story.

    Battle on !!

    Drunner

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still one of the best posts I've read here, both then and now. Best of luck with your health issues!

  • TexastTexast Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭

    I would like to thank all of you that have commented on this thread. I have never been on any board that has had a great group of People who really believe in the Hobby, to me that is what it has been for me since I was Five years old. I wonder how many of us old timers got interested in the Coin Hobby from a simple Five Cent little bag of candy, some may have guessed it, Gold Foil Wrapped Chocolate Coins. I was lucky to get interested in a time when coins were still made of Silver, Standing in line at the bank to get a brand new 1964 Kennedy Half Dollar. Going to the stores and watching for Walking Liberty Half Dollars, all sorts of Quarters and plenty of Mercury Dimes (I hope I can get one tomorrow from the Mint). I ordered the Half today and paid extra for the overnight shipping so I can make the First Strike cut off. (post marked by the 17th). then again Waiting in line year after year for the Ike Dollars.

    Always remember this is a hobby, it's ok to make some money along the way, just be fair about what you sell, be honest in your description, never, never try to make a huge windfall at someone else's naiveté. To often people believe they have a fortune in a few common old coins. As a dealer for many years I have paid much more than a coin was worth; paying a little more to see a smile, and when you see that smile trust me, it is worth the few extra dollars. I'm sure I am not alone in this, I have had youngsters that needed a little direction and learn how to start and complete a Whitman Folder, often times filling in a few empty holes with common Short Sets of Wheat Cents, a Jefferson Nickle here and there and a Mercury Dime or two. and it never failed, soon they were filling up albums paying a fair price along the way. I've also seen Parents and Friends joining in on the hobby. The look on a young mans face when they fill in that last spot on a Kennedy half dollar album. I miss those days, Ebay changed collecting in ways I never imagined, coins that were rare in our area reduced to common issues.

    Well I guess that's enough walking down memory lane for now, maybe I'll take a stroll again in the near future. In the meantime maybe some of the others here will tell how they got started.

    Oh and yes, Just like my Great Nephew, I also had a small 'Pirate Chest" I kept my treasures in...

    Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and Happy Holliday's to everyone here.

    Tim AKA TexasT, oh Living back in Texas for the past 5 years now, my how time fly's...

    On BS&T Now: Nothing.
    Fighting the Fight for 11 Years with the big "C" - Never Ever Give Up!
    Member PCGS Open Forum board 2002 - 2006 (closed end of 2006) Current board since 2006 Successful trades with many members, over the past two decades, never a bad deal.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a great story and post. i don't know what it is, but coins in an album are just so cool when assembled with love and care.

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2016 11:46PM

    Cool.
    The 9 holders with rubber-stamped dates (1942-D to 1950-S) all have an identical 3 staple pattern which is different from how he stapled the holders he labelled with pen.
    So perhaps he bought these 9 from a single dealer in 1950 or later as upgrades for some of his coins.
    The earliest proof is a 1950, then a gap until 1968-S.
    Since Bobby was born in 1930, he would have been age 20 in 1950, so out of high school and apparently in the navy.

    Many of the holders have no staples; perhaps they are the self-adhesive holders (which I used as a kid in the 60s).

  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    Cool

  • PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭

    <3:)<3

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of my favorite all time threads on the forums. Glad to see you bumped it Texast. It would be great to see pictures of lot 403 again, this time with bright orange cents from 1999 through the present contained therein.

  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a nice story and you told it well. The only thing I ever had kind of like that was when I bought some books at a coin club auction. I mostly wanted the "Penny Whimsy" book, but one of the three books was an old Brown and Dunn grading book. It was pretty well worn, but when I opened the cover I saw that it belonged to the late Wilbur Balmos a sharp dressed gentleman who always treated me well back in the 1970's! He was a part time dealer until someone broke into his house and cracked his safes and stole everything he had. He always wore a 3 piece suit and had a large mustache, I liked him a lot. It kind of tickled me to have his old grading book....how it got in the club auction no one knew.

    "Ain't None of Them play like him (Bix Beiderbecke) Yet."
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