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Axioms of Numismatics that are no longer correct.

...or at least not as relevant as once believed.

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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭
    redbook prices for one...image
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


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    DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭
    "Coins may be cleaned by gently rubbing with a pencil eraser."



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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Common Coins Will Always be Common"
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    You can't pay too much for quality.
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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The market for First Strike holders would indicate - "Buy the coin, not the holder." belongs on the list.
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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭
    "Rare coins" with the presumption that rare coins are rare, of course there is a tiny exception of a few pieces. The internet has made rare coins common.
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    FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Buying a Nickel for $7,000,000 is a sure fire way to proclaim your superior intelligence to the world.


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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Step on the crack, break your mother's back.


    Now it's "Before you crack, send to CAC"

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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dealers are proficient graders. Once largely true, because their livelihoods depended on this skill. Today, many dealers just push slabs.
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    AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dealers are proficient graders. Once largely true, because their livelihoods depended on this skill. Today, many dealers just push slabs. >>



    Not sure what is worse, pushing slabs, or telling us the slabs are wrong and we should pay according to what THEY think the grade is.
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    << <i>Dealers are proficient graders. Once largely true, because their livelihoods depended on this skill. Today, many dealers just push slabs. >>



    That can also be said for the opposite -

    Collectors are no longer proficient graders because now they just collect slabs.

    Not 100% true, but definitely applicable in either instance.
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,230 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"Coins may be cleaned by gently rubbing with a pencil eraser." >>



    An ink eraser always gave a more vibrant appearace!image
    All glory is fleeting.
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    The customers want clean shiny coins. Always dip in Jewel Luster, rub baking soda over the coin's surfaces to neutralize the cleaner, then hold the coin under running water.

    Ahhhhhhh, those were the days image
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,963 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dealers are proficient graders. Once largely true, because their livelihoods depended on this skill. Today, many dealers just push slabs. >>



    I disagree. If you can't grade you won't last long in the business if you can't sort through the "A," "B" and "C" coins. I've known a couple of beginning dealers who tried to survive on slab grades only. They did not last long.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    << <i>The customers want clean shiny coins. Always dip in Jewel Luster, rub baking soda over the coin's surfaces to neutralize the cleaner, then hold the coin under running water.

    Ahhhhhhh, those were the days image >>



    In terms of raw numbers, I believe the vast majority of collectors still do want white coins. There is a very high concentration of folks who likely original coins on this forum who I think skew the perspective of those who congregate here.

    That being said, most who like "original" material are also pretty picky, and often incorrect, when it comes to identifying an "original" coin.
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    alefzeroalefzero Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A complete and matched set is worth more than the aggregation of the individual coins.

    I think we have all suspected that wasn't the case. Except for a relative handful of folks, like Louis Eliasberg, bringing complete sets to auction often sets it up as a fire sale bargain event for buyers.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A complete and matched set is worth more than the aggregation of the individual coins.

    I think we have all suspected that wasn't the case. Except for a relative handful of folks, like Louis Eliasberg, bringing complete sets to auction often sets it up as a fire sale bargain event for buyers. >>


    It's true if it's a finest known pop top quality set....or even a finest available monster XF/AU circ set. Anything else and I'd probably agree. If you find the coins that everyone else is looking for over a 10-20 year period, then there should be a premium for the total set (ie TDN's seated dollar set).


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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buy the coin, not the holder.

    Holders, acronyms, stickers, etc. pretty much define the value of approx 90% of market coins these days. Ok, if you collect gem bust halves for example this might only apply to approx 65% of them.


    Buy the book first.

    While it will give you some knowledge. It will not by itself protect from numerous pit falls in the market, especially grading nuances and coins that are not 100% problem-free.
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
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    << <i>The customers want clean shiny coins. Always dip in Jewel Luster, rub baking soda over the coin's surfaces to neutralize the cleaner, then hold the coin under running water.

    Ahhhhhhh, those were the days image >>



    In terms of raw numbers, I believe the vast majority of collectors still do want white coins. There is a very high concentration of folks who likely original coins on this forum who I think skew the perspective of those who congregate here.

    That being said, most who like "original" material are also pretty picky, and often incorrect, when it comes to identifying an "original" coin. >>




    imageimage Man if everybody in this place grasped this concept, I would come here more often
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    Large size Federal reserve Notes are worth only face value, spend them.
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    Come to think of it, a prominent Boston numismatist many years ago told our coin club to never collect or buy silver dollars.

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