We have an item for sale, what would you do??

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keets
keets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
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In a collection we bought last week there was the usual assortment of stuff and a few unusual items. One thing in the unusual category is a belt buckle with a Morgan Dollar in the center, not overly polished and grading probably VF/XF. The buckle itself is marked "Nickel Silver" so we won't scrap it out for melt instead selling it intact.

So here's the twist --- the Dollar is an 1889. I know the odds of it being a "CC" are pretty slim, but would you tear it apart or sell it intact. My boss has me selling it intact.

Al H.

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    34 million minted p, o and s dollars and .35 million CC dollars....odds are slim. What is nickel silver?
    Is that just silver plated nickel?

    Leave as is,

    bobimage
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  • MGLICKER
    MGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
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    Chances are slim.....but, worth maybe $500 if it is a CC. Against an added what, $10-15 if left intact?

    Go for it!!!
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  • lcoopie
    lcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Perhaps someone knows how to tell from the obverse
    LCoopie = Les
  • ebaytrader
    ebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
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    Authenticate it by obverse die characteristics. 3 known dies.
  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If it's in a belt buckle it's going to be considered cleaned and/or damaged. I'd leave it in the buckle. Is it possible for a VAM expert to tell what mint it came from based on obverse die characteristics?

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  • pennyannie
    pennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
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    Depends on the selling price. How much? I would rip it out myself. Might have a gold coin under it or a treasure map to "Curly's gold" or a map to where Hoffa is buried.
    Mark
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  • keets
    keets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    why does everyone think Hoffa is buried somewhere??image
  • jmcu12
    jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
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    Maybe post it on fleabay if you think you can get $150-$200. If not tear it outta there!
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  • ms70
    ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>Maybe post it on fleabay if you think you can get $150-$200. If not tear it outta there! >>



    There you go- post it on eBay:

    Title: "1889 Morgan Dollar Buckle MAY be a CC Carson City!"

    Subtite: "From an old estate" image

    More serioulsy, take it to a jewler & have him pop it out. If it's not a CC pop it back in. Take him to lunch.

  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    isn't there a date position diagnostic on obv for this coin?
  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>well let's see

    chance of it being a CC-5%

    chances of it not being-95%

    odds don't favor you at all, leave it as it is >>



    5%???? More like 0.1%. >>



    LOL, correct the guy on math and then you get it wrong! It's 1%, based on the numbers above anyway! image
  • LindeDad
    LindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Do what the "BOSS" says or he may not be the boss for long.
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  • MrHalfDime
    MrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
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    "Authenticate it by obverse die characteristics. 3 known dies."

    This is certainly not my series, but listen to the attribution advocates. What do you have to lose? If it is worth potentially $500 if it is a CC mint coin, and just $15 from the other mints, then simply attribute it from the obverse die to increase your odds. You could theoretically eliminate any possibility of it being a CC coin by simply attributing it.
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  • keets
    keets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I guess I'm waiting for the die markers
  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sell it intact. Even if it is a CC it is polished.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • Lakesammman
    Lakesammman Posts: 17,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I suspect a small hole drilled on the back side of the buckle would go unnoticed........image
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  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would do as the boss says.
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  • OPA
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    << <i>34 million minted p, o and s dollars and .35 million CC dollars....odds are slim. What is nickel silver?
    Is that just silver plated nickel?

    Leave as is,

    bobimage >>



    FYI..The name Nickel silver or German silver is an alloy of 60% copper, 20% nickel and 20% zinc. Not even silver plated.
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  • lasvegasteddy
    lasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭
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    i'd leave it as is and move along...maybe add a lil......."you're right boss...not worth looking"
    then head to the restroom to wipe off your nose some
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • Shamika
    Shamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
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    Leave it.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • fcloud
    fcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
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    I say leave it alone. If you really can't leave it, then buy if from the boss and take the risk yourself.

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  • keets
    keets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    we both laughed about it when we found it and the thought of tearing it apart was never considered once we knew the buckle wasn't Silver. I thought it was sort of intriguing anyway so that's why I started the thread. it makes me think about the eBay auctions for sealed GSA Dollars and all the times we buy a large group of Proof Sets and I just HAVE to open every 1975 set to look at the Dime.image
  • Purfrock
    Purfrock Posts: 545 ✭✭✭
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    Entice the buyer with the possibility, but keep it in tact.
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  • Catbert
    Catbert Posts: 8,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    How about posting a picture here?
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  • coinkat
    coinkat Posts: 24,542 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is there any way to determine the age of the belt buckle itself? The strong likelihood is that the coin was checked prior to being put into the buckle.

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The gambler in me says 'Buy it!!'....Cheers, RickO
  • jrt103
    jrt103 Posts: 419 ✭✭✭
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    Buy it from your boss and tear it out!

    Worst case scenario: Sell it on ebay and break even

    Best case scenario: $$ Score!


    You can't lose!
  • Cameonut
    Cameonut Posts: 7,436 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'd think of it like a scratch off lottery ticket.

    So break it out already!

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  • AMRC
    AMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You buy it. That way you will be SURE no one else winds up with a potential treasure.
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  • numisma
    numisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭
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    The people who made these belt buckles with silver dollars bought the silver dollars from dealers. I know this to be true. As such, a dealer would know to check for Carson City dollars before selling them off. I would guess that the odds of the coin being an 1889-CC are astronomical. Leave it as is and sell it to an Elvis impersonator.
  • Justlooking
    Justlooking Posts: 2,895 ✭
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    Pop it outta there!
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • astrorat
    astrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>well let's see

    chance of it being a CC-5%

    chances of it not being-95%

    odds don't favor you at all, leave it as it is >>



    5%???? More like 0.1%. >>



    LOL, correct the guy on math and then you get it wrong! It's 1%, based on the numbers above anyway! image >>

    Huh?
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  • telephoto1
    telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'd bust it out of a cheap nickel belt buckle in a heartbeat... not because I thought it had a shot at being a CC (it doesn't), but because I don't want anyone seeing it in our display case and thinking they wandered into a truck stop. image

    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • BAJJERFAN
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    << <i>Sell it intact. Even if it is a CC it is polished. >>



    I've seen highly polished vg grade 89-cc turds bring $600 or about greysheet at auction.
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  • OldEastside
    OldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ask for the employee discount, or you'll always wonder image

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  • messydesk
    messydesk Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    X-ray it.
    John
    Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution

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