Please lend me an eye... Double, Triple, or Multi-Struck?
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This 1892 35mm diameter medal looked double struck when I bought it.
Now that's it's here it's messing with me as looking at some of the peripheral letters and the school house base it looks triple struck or even more.
What do y'all say?
Thanks in advance!
This medal was issued by The Order of United American Mechanics in late 1892 and given to Junior Members when The Pledge of Allegiance was adopted by Congress and the National Education Association. I'll write more about what this is when I have more time but I've never seen one that wasn't holed for suspension or in copper/bronze as all I've seen had been struck in white metal.
Now that's it's here it's messing with me as looking at some of the peripheral letters and the school house base it looks triple struck or even more.
What do y'all say?
Thanks in advance!
This medal was issued by The Order of United American Mechanics in late 1892 and given to Junior Members when The Pledge of Allegiance was adopted by Congress and the National Education Association. I'll write more about what this is when I have more time but I've never seen one that wasn't holed for suspension or in copper/bronze as all I've seen had been struck in white metal.
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Sure does not look like any striking that I've seen before. How could anything rotate that far between strikes?
bob
<< <i>I don't see that this is a striking issue. Perhaps a die issue?
Sure does not look like any striking that I've seen before. How could anything rotate that far between strikes?
bob
Only the obverse was struck with rotation between strikes as there no evidence on the reverse.
Many times, on other coins/metals, denominations,
the second strike overlapping the first makes it
appear that a third strike is underneath, when it's
just the first strike design elements getting squashed
by the overstrike.....
I don't see any signs any signs of a third strike.
A beautiful medal, and cool D/S effect!
In many cases, they are struck, annealed, and then struck again.
It looks like what happened with this medal is that the schoolhouse die was rotated in the coin press between strikes.
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<< <i>Thanks however I felt this bare raised area under the grass on the left shown with red arrows was evidence of a third strike?
Not sure what that is, maybe an issue on the die itself as it appears the same outline/shape is there on the first strike too.
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<< <i>Thanks however I felt this bare raised area under the grass on the left shown with red arrows was evidence of a third strike?
Not sure what that is, maybe an issue on the die itself as it appears the same outline/shape is there on the first strike too. >>
It's not on the White Metal struck examples... Then again that's all I've ever seen.
<< <i>Cool looking piece! I think double struck after rotation on the schoolhouse side. >>
+1 and very cool medal!!!
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<< <i>Thanks however I felt this bare raised area under the grass on the left shown with red arrows was evidence of a third strike?
Not sure what that is, maybe an issue on the die itself as it appears the same outline/shape is there on the first strike too. >>
It's not on the White Metal struck examples... Then again that's all I've ever seen. >>
This area is strike doubling, IMO. Genuine d/s coins often exhibit strike/shelf/machine doubling as well, the result of planchet movement in the chamber.
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<< <i>Why is there no evidence of a double strike on the reverse? I would expect to see something. >>
The planchet remained resting fixed in position on the anvil (reverse) die, and the hammer (obverse) die rotated in the press jig either when it was raised after the initial strike, or when the hammer die began to descend for a subsequent blow.
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<< <i>Thanks however I felt this bare raised area under the grass on the left shown with red arrows was evidence of a third strike?
I see that as part of the second, stronger strike. The first/weaker strike is clockwise from the second strike, and it is the first strike's ground line which causes the apparent slice there.
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<< <i>Large medals (especially those with high relief) are usually struck multiple times.
In many cases, they are struck, annealed, and then struck again.
It looks like what happened with this medal is that the schoolhouse die was rotated in the coin press between strikes. >>
What he said
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