We could start with Mickey Mouse on a circulating denominational piece. He's a handsome icon, multi generational, recognized around the world, has generated billions in revenue, loved by all. has no derogatory baggage, and truly represents our political system today.
Yes, coins honor slave owners but far less than the Native Americans the US Cavalry was slaughtering as we were primping their portraits on 1c, 5c, $2.50, $5.00 and $10.00 coins! And $5.00 bills.
THAT my friends is the greatest hypocrisy and political foot in the mouth of all times. I love those coins (except the 1c and $10 because they were Anglo models) because there is nothing more American than the original inhabitants who were a noble group of spiritual people on the whole until "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
How do I really feel? This shouldn't be any surprise to the veterans here. It's why I never collected $10's.
<< <i>Yes, coins honor slave owners but far less than the Native Americans the US Cavalry was slaughtering as we were primping their portraits on 1c, 5c, $2.50, $5.00 and $10.00 coins! And $5.00 bills.
THAT my friends is the greatest hypocrisy and political foot in the mouth of all times. I love those coins (except the 1c and $10 because they were Anglo models) because there is nothing more American than the original inhabitants who were a noble group of spiritual people on the whole until "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
How do I really feel? This shouldn't be any surprise to the veterans here. It's why I never collected $10's.
>>
I have never understood why we put American Indians on the money while we were trying to exterminate them.
<< <i>Yes, coins honor slave owners but far less than the Native Americans the US Cavalry was slaughtering as we were primping their portraits on 1c, 5c, $2.50, $5.00 and $10.00 coins! And $5.00 bills.
THAT my friends is the greatest hypocrisy and political foot in the mouth of all times. I love those coins (except the 1c and $10 because they were Anglo models) because there is nothing more American than the original inhabitants who were a noble group of spiritual people on the whole until "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
How do I really feel? This shouldn't be any surprise to the veterans here. It's why I never collected $10's.
>>
I have never understood why we put American Indians on the money while we were trying to exterminate them. >>
Perhaps it was denial and to "turn a blind eye"... While on the surface, offering a display that offers a 'face' of honor and respect- which was clearly a farce and delusion... We see the face of honor and respect on the currency, while behind the scenes, a culture crushed and pushed into reservations.
Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014
<< <i>While I may agree with your thesis in principle, the reality is that coins have less and less relevance as time marches on. This, along with the government's desire to produce them as economically as possible (i.e., in shallow relief), makes truly artistic coinage a long shot in the extreme. >>
Look for another UHR in 2015 with an accompanying silver medal.
The CCAC want to show what artistic things the mint's stable can do. The UHR design will be new & not a rehash.
We shall see what is produced and if it is really high art. Of course required inscriptions will be one hold up on the UHR, but not the medals. >>
OK, but I presumed the discussion was about circulating coinage. >>
Yes it is.
One issue is: can the mint's stable produce anything worthy?
Next year ... and potentially the years following with the potential silver arts medal series... is proof in the pudding.
Agitation for change can be started once they have made worthy artistic designs.
<< <i>GW and TJ were two of the largest slave owners of their era. GW finally provided for the freeing of his slaves in his will, though only after the death of Martha. (They ended up being freed before her death, probably because Martha was afraid they were going to help speed up things by causing her early demise.) TJ never freed his slaves. Do we really want to continue to honor slave owners? >>
I could care less that they were slave owners. That's the way things were done back then.. it's part of our history, good or bad. No need to sweep it under the rug or villify those who practiced what was then the way things were done, whether we like it now or not.. They were still great men who help forge our nation and deserve to be recognized as such.
<< <i>Yes, coins honor slave owners but far less than the Native Americans the US Cavalry was slaughtering as we were primping their portraits on 1c, 5c, $2.50, $5.00 and $10.00 coins! And $5.00 bills.
THAT my friends is the greatest hypocrisy and political foot in the mouth of all times. I love those coins (except the 1c and $10 because they were Anglo models) because there is nothing more American than the original inhabitants who were a noble group of spiritual people on the whole until "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
How do I really feel? This shouldn't be any surprise to the veterans here. It's why I never collected $10's.
>>
I have never understood why we put American Indians on the money while we were trying to exterminate them. >>
Perhaps it was denial and to "turn a blind eye"... While on the surface, offering a display that offers a 'face' of honor and respect- which was clearly a farce and delusion... We see the face of honor and respect on the currency, while behind the scenes, a culture crushed and pushed into reservations. >>
Anyway, Indian $10's were and are neat. Would've been fine to have just a wreath for her headgear as St. Gaudens originally modeled it; twas TR who wanted an Indian bonnet placed upon her. Blame him!
Lets put out a beautiful $5.00 coin, the size of an Ike Dollar, and put a Horse on the obverse, and how about a pair a Cowboy boots, a hat, and a saddle, or a combination of the 3.
I also would love to see the statue of Liberty (The full statue) on a coin maybe on one side, and put the flag of the U.S.A. on the other side.
You could also put certain landmarks such as the Pentagon, Washington Monument, Capitol Building, or the great lakes, Birds, other Animals. I also wouldn't be apposed to seeing a new rendition of an old design of the wheat back cent.
No matter what was done, it would be 100x's better then what is on the coins right now!!!
Lincoln has been on the cent since 1909 and what did they do...they redesign the cent after 2009, put a shield on the reverse and leave the same old tired boring Lincoln on the Obverse for everyone to look at for yet another 25 years.....YAH!!!!! WAY TO GO!!!! They could have just left the memorial on the reverse, put the wheat stalks on the Obverse, slap the date smack in the middle on the coin in between the wheat and been done with it, and it would have been 10,000x's better then what they ended up with!
<< <i>Yes, coins honor slave owners but far less than the Native Americans the US Cavalry was slaughtering as we were primping their portraits on 1c, 5c, $2.50, $5.00 and $10.00 coins! And $5.00 bills.
THAT my friends is the greatest hypocrisy and political foot in the mouth of all times. I love those coins (except the 1c and $10 because they were Anglo models) because there is nothing more American than the original inhabitants who were a noble group of spiritual people on the whole until "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
How do I really feel? This shouldn't be any surprise to the veterans here. It's why I never collected $10's.
>>
Fortunately for us all you are not in the business of writing history books. The earliest Americans were caucazoids that were exterminated via war and rape by the "Indians." Also, at your peril, you view early America in a vacuum and from politically corrected lens of 2014. There was a whole world of history happening back then.
Hey DETLEF.....fortunately for ME I abandoned this place because of the malcontents who will take anything out of context and piss on a thought out "article". You go back to showing your Ebay coins here, wondering why FedEx hasn't shown up and arguing with people over VAMs and die types.
Then ask yourself where have all the of OF smart guys gone. They choose to keep their knowledge and educated opinions to themselves. Knock yourself out big boy.
My thought would be that modern coinage has seen far more usage by the masses over the last 100 years than it ever did 2000 years ago. There has been a need for conformity of size, weight, and composition, and keeping the cost down. How many times was relief lowered much to the artist's dismay so that die life could be extended and costs of production could be kept down. Art disappeared from coinage for good reasons. Doesn't mean I like it either.
BTW, I agree with you regarding coinage. Simply put, the modern stuff sucks, and any hope of bringing back meaningful coin design died when Congress approved the hideous and useless Presidential Dollars, and the even more hideous and more useless First Spouse garbage.
Our founding fathers would have been horrified by such coinage, making "royalty" of all past presidents.
Since then we have accepted mediocrity and retooling over displaying statements and grandeur that American coinage boldly displayed for a century and a half.
We put Indian heads on some of our coinage well before the Indian head,or Buffalo nickel, all the while stealing land from Indians that they had occupied for many centuries before white man showed up.The Black Hills of South Dakota is sacred Indian land and it was stolen from the Indians when gold was discovered there.The American Bison,important food source for Indians,almost became extinct from reckless slaughter of them by white men like Buffalo Bill Cody.
What is the grand statement being made by the Indian Princess Head one-dollar and three-dollar gold pieces issued from 1854-1889?
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
It is so good to see Jay back and posting again!!!!! I would love to see liberty grace the obverse of a coin again, perhaps the 50C as I like the bigger surface.
It is true that we have seen a substantial lowering of the quality of coins with the current lineup. If you ignore all the one time stuff the Mint produces and just look at the recurring coins, it is TIME for a change. The problem is that we have the issue of coin by committee, given who has to approve any design. Not to mention the intrenched forces that favor certain dead presidents. Look at the angst that was created with regard to a prospective change of Jefferson on the nickel. It seems that Virginians think the own the nickel, given the outcry. That is just a singular example, not meant to call out one group as I am certain there are constituencies for all the present coins.
Let' move ON, and replace all of them. The lincoln cent is well over 100 years old. And I thought seated coinage ran too long... silly me.
Maybe we just need to kill the penny, nickel and quarter, keeping the dime and half dollar.... bring back bus ties!! That would make sense and then add a five dollar coin and kill the one and five dollar bill and you might have something that makes sense... however, that has NO chance as it makes far too much sense.
Jay, what are you collection these days?d I lived vicariously through your journey with the Saints.
Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
<< <i>At least one man has his priorities straight!
>>
Everyone wants change except the few raking in all the money who control government.
99% are for change and 1% are for the status quo.
Change would be great but the government is so ossified they can't even discontinue producing a coin that has been obsolete since at least 1974. They do well at jingoism and "science of the week" but not so well at common sense. We can spend billions to save a dollar but can't lift a finger to save billions.
I think some of our platinum coins depict the eagle nicely in flight. I don't like the big head of the statue of liberty, or the SBA and IKE because of the "big heads" but the reverses are intriguing , by design. The same plaque affects presidential dollar's reverse & obverse because of "BIG HEADS", too. As to slavery , the civil war and the FREE MAN, it took us no time to set aside land for the Native Americans and they have their own laws on reservations, the white man sure didn't learn much about "integrating" cultures in those early days, did WE ?
Good to read you, Jay. I wish more men of intellect and the giants would just swat harder and do a "smack down" with the same vehemence as they are dealt here, instead of punishing the rest of us who WANT an open forum for discussing coins and their designs/history, etc., etc., . That's why the boards suck , if they do suck…. because those who matter most aren't as involved at the core level in a lot of discussions, likely due to the utter disrespect and contempt held.
And just like coins, we (people) sometimes get on edge.
In the end, I like the idea of using the bison, the deer(buck), the beaver, the fox and the hound. The bear, the hummingbird and so much more that represents the WORLD we live in and the land we live on (or off of) as we struggle to establish unity in each neighborhood, city, state and county in this great nation. And our history ? We cannot change. But tomorrow's change starts today.
I'm with you ... America the Beautiful is not about political celebrities, no matter how much they may have contributed to making this country great.
The $20 Saint is the ideal design, and the Gobrecht dollar is another fitting tribute to Liberty. The state quarters and their successors did bring nature into the imagery, but then there's that obverse, which Washington himself would have abhorred.
We need a 1907-style coinage renaissance, but it won't be the same without silver and gold coinage ... Those are softer metals that could be struck with beautiful detail. At high speed.
Twosides...you know that the slow exodus was because there was just too much trivial pursuits as well at trolls who couldn't recognize a worthwhile post and always had a gripe or a defiant 'tude. It just defeated the effort.
Teddy Roosevelt...I STILL don't get it. No coin, no bill, nothing. And a commem would have been an insult. He should have been on a $1,000,000 bill or a $100 gold orb! The most unexplainable question in all our years of mintage?
Theodore Roosevelt, (26th president) provided leadership when America experienced rapid economic growth as it entered the 20th Century. He was instrumental in negotiating the construction of the Panama Canal, linking the east and the west. He was known as the "trust buster" for his work to end large corporate monopolies and ensure the rights of the common working man."The first requisite of a good citizen in this Republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his weight - that he shall not be a mere passenger." Theodore Roosevelt
T. Roosevelt is on the 1991 Mt. Rushmore commemoratives.The half dollar in copper-nickel and the silver dollar show Roosevelt the best.The gold $5 has a wonderful representation of the American Bald Eagle on its obverse.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
Word said, there should be no monarchs on coinage.
All Patriarchs, have agree and did agree afterwards.
I love most aspects of TR, but if you want to be politically correct, you would never agree to have a coin minted in his image. If you want me to relate all of his negatives, I can.
Lastly, I would agree with Washington, et. al., and say that Liberty should reflect the essence of our coinage and country. If you want to propose an economical method of representing our current barter system, and commemorate our country's heritage, propose something reasonable that satisfies both.
I have always been against portraits on coins, no matter whose. The founding fathers did want this. As, I have stated before, once they are there, how do you get them off? Politicians love their own and always will. No change is coming in my lifetime and probably not even in yours. I am actually surprised that some women's group like NOW is not screaming for more women to be placed on circulating coins. How do you take Lincoln, Jefferson, FDR, Washington, or JFK off coins without political fanfare? They are so ingrained that removing them from coins is not possible! Ceasing production entirely will also not likely happen anytime soon. Cents are no longer necessary. Half dollars no longer circulate. (okay, almost do not circulate, but you get the picture). The only coins needed for circulation are nickels, dimes and quarters. All the current coins, cents through half dollars, have had presidents on them longer then they were alive.
If a persons portrait must be on coins, then there should be a maximum time limit of production, say 20 years. Enough is enough. Commemoratives are fine, but should be minted for only a short limited time period. Even some of the reverses are sacred, just look what happened when they tried to change the Monticello reverse on the nickel, they had to change it back to Monticello.
Changing the designs of coins was a much easier thing to do until the current presidential series's began.
Comments
<< <i>The big story is that art is dying. >>
Yeah, but that started under the Bush administration.
This is really the first thing you think of when someone says George Washington or Thomas Jefferson?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5q2J4K72kjrigRih9
THAT my friends is the greatest hypocrisy and political foot in the mouth of all times. I love those coins (except the 1c and $10 because they were Anglo models) because there is nothing more American than the original inhabitants who were a noble group of spiritual people on the whole until "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
How do I really feel? This shouldn't be any surprise to the veterans here. It's why I never collected $10's.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5q2J4K72kjrigRih9
<< <i>Yes, coins honor slave owners but far less than the Native Americans the US Cavalry was slaughtering as we were primping their portraits on 1c, 5c, $2.50, $5.00 and $10.00 coins! And $5.00 bills.
THAT my friends is the greatest hypocrisy and political foot in the mouth of all times. I love those coins (except the 1c and $10 because they were Anglo models) because there is nothing more American than the original inhabitants who were a noble group of spiritual people on the whole until "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
How do I really feel? This shouldn't be any surprise to the veterans here. It's why I never collected $10's.
I have never understood why we put American Indians on the money while we were trying to exterminate them.
<< <i>
<< <i>Yes, coins honor slave owners but far less than the Native Americans the US Cavalry was slaughtering as we were primping their portraits on 1c, 5c, $2.50, $5.00 and $10.00 coins! And $5.00 bills.
THAT my friends is the greatest hypocrisy and political foot in the mouth of all times. I love those coins (except the 1c and $10 because they were Anglo models) because there is nothing more American than the original inhabitants who were a noble group of spiritual people on the whole until "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
How do I really feel? This shouldn't be any surprise to the veterans here. It's why I never collected $10's.
I have never understood why we put American Indians on the money while we were trying to exterminate them. >>
Perhaps it was denial and to "turn a blind eye"... While on the surface, offering a display that offers a 'face' of honor and respect- which was clearly a farce and delusion... We see the face of honor and respect on the currency, while behind the scenes, a culture crushed and pushed into reservations.
Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014
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<< <i>While I may agree with your thesis in principle, the reality is that coins have less and less
relevance as time marches on. This, along with the government's desire to produce them
as economically as possible (i.e., in shallow relief), makes truly artistic coinage a long shot
in the extreme. >>
Look for another UHR in 2015 with an accompanying silver medal.
The CCAC want to show what artistic things the mint's stable can do. The UHR design will be new & not a rehash.
We shall see what is produced and if it is really high art. Of course required inscriptions will be one hold up on the UHR, but not the medals. >>
OK, but I presumed the discussion was about circulating coinage. >>
Yes it is.
One issue is: can the mint's stable produce anything worthy?
Next year ... and potentially the years following with the potential silver arts medal series... is proof in the pudding.
Agitation for change can be started once they have made worthy artistic designs.
<< <i>GW and TJ were two of the largest slave owners of their era. GW finally provided for the freeing of his slaves in his will, though only after the death of Martha. (They ended up being freed before her death, probably because Martha was afraid they were going to help speed up things by causing her early demise.) TJ never freed his slaves. Do we really want to continue to honor slave owners? >>
I could care less that they were slave owners. That's the way things were done back then.. it's part of our history, good or bad. No need to sweep it under the rug or villify those who practiced what was then the way things were done, whether we like it now or not.. They were still great men who help forge our nation and deserve to be recognized as such.
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<< <i>Yes, coins honor slave owners but far less than the Native Americans the US Cavalry was slaughtering as we were primping their portraits on 1c, 5c, $2.50, $5.00 and $10.00 coins! And $5.00 bills.
THAT my friends is the greatest hypocrisy and political foot in the mouth of all times. I love those coins (except the 1c and $10 because they were Anglo models) because there is nothing more American than the original inhabitants who were a noble group of spiritual people on the whole until "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
How do I really feel? This shouldn't be any surprise to the veterans here. It's why I never collected $10's.
I have never understood why we put American Indians on the money while we were trying to exterminate them. >>
Perhaps it was denial and to "turn a blind eye"... While on the surface, offering a display that offers a 'face' of honor and respect- which was clearly a farce and delusion... We see the face of honor and respect on the currency, while behind the scenes, a culture crushed and pushed into reservations. >>
Anyway, Indian $10's were and are neat.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
Lets put out a beautiful $5.00 coin, the size of an Ike Dollar, and put a Horse on the obverse, and how about a pair a Cowboy boots, a hat, and a saddle, or a combination of the 3.
I also would love to see the statue of Liberty (The full statue) on a coin maybe on one side, and put the flag of the U.S.A. on the other side.
You could also put certain landmarks such as the Pentagon, Washington Monument, Capitol Building, or the great lakes, Birds, other Animals. I also wouldn't be apposed to seeing a new rendition of an old design of the wheat back cent.
No matter what was done, it would be 100x's better then what is on the coins right now!!!
Lincoln has been on the cent since 1909 and what did they do...they redesign the cent after 2009, put a shield on the reverse and leave the same old tired boring Lincoln on the Obverse for everyone to look at for yet another 25 years.....YAH!!!!! WAY TO GO!!!! They could have just left the memorial on the reverse, put the wheat stalks on the Obverse, slap the date smack in the middle on the coin in between the wheat and been done with it, and it would have been 10,000x's better then what they ended up with!
End on Cent rant.
Paul.
Later, Paul.
<< <i>Yes, coins honor slave owners but far less than the Native Americans the US Cavalry was slaughtering as we were primping their portraits on 1c, 5c, $2.50, $5.00 and $10.00 coins! And $5.00 bills.
THAT my friends is the greatest hypocrisy and political foot in the mouth of all times. I love those coins (except the 1c and $10 because they were Anglo models) because there is nothing more American than the original inhabitants who were a noble group of spiritual people on the whole until "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
How do I really feel? This shouldn't be any surprise to the veterans here. It's why I never collected $10's.
Fortunately for us all you are not in the business of writing history books. The earliest Americans were caucazoids that were exterminated via war and rape by the "Indians." Also, at your peril, you view early America in a vacuum and from politically corrected lens of 2014. There was a whole world of history happening back then.
http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/hive/Kenn-Man/Kennewic.htm
They were insane animals.
Please check your history.
Then ask yourself where have all the of OF smart guys gone. They choose to keep their knowledge and educated opinions to themselves. Knock yourself out big boy.
Ciao.
<< <i>Oh please. Everyone get a grip. >>
Amen. Why go off on a political rant?
My thought would be that modern coinage has seen far more usage by the masses over the last 100 years than it ever did 2000 years ago. There has been a need for conformity of size, weight, and composition, and keeping the cost down. How many times was relief lowered much to the artist's dismay so that die life could be extended and costs of production could be kept down. Art disappeared from coinage for good reasons. Doesn't mean I like it either.
<< <i>Raise the flag, blow the trumpets and I'll lead the fight to Capitol Hill!
Change the Change campaign !!!
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Our founding fathers would have been horrified by such coinage, making "royalty" of all past presidents.
We put Indian heads on some of our coinage well before the Indian head,or Buffalo nickel, all the while stealing land from Indians that they had occupied for many centuries before white man showed up.The Black Hills of South Dakota is sacred Indian land and it was stolen from the Indians when gold was discovered there.The American Bison,important food source for Indians,almost became extinct from reckless slaughter of them by white men like Buffalo Bill Cody.
What is the grand statement being made by the Indian Princess Head one-dollar and three-dollar gold pieces issued from 1854-1889?
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
It is true that we have seen a substantial lowering of the quality of coins with the current lineup. If you ignore all the one time stuff the Mint produces and just look at the recurring coins, it is TIME for a change. The problem is that we have the issue of coin by committee, given who has to approve any design. Not to mention the intrenched forces that favor certain dead presidents. Look at the angst that was created with regard to a prospective change of Jefferson on the nickel. It seems that Virginians think the own the nickel, given the outcry. That is just a singular example, not meant to call out one group as I am certain there are constituencies for all the present coins.
Let' move ON, and replace all of them. The lincoln cent is well over 100 years old. And I thought seated coinage ran too long... silly me.
Maybe we just need to kill the penny, nickel and quarter, keeping the dime and half dollar.... bring back bus ties!! That would make sense and then add a five dollar coin and kill the one and five dollar bill and you might have something that makes sense... however, that has NO chance as it makes far too much sense.
Jay, what are you collection these days?d I lived vicariously through your journey with the Saints.
<< <i>At least one man has his priorities straight!
Everyone wants change except the few raking in all the money who control government.
99% are for change and 1% are for the status quo.
Change would be great but the government is so ossified they can't even discontinue
producing a coin that has been obsolete since at least 1974. They do well at jingoism
and "science of the week" but not so well at common sense. We can spend billions to
save a dollar but can't lift a finger to save billions.
It looks like the status quo will win.
As to slavery , the civil war and the FREE MAN, it took us no time to set aside land for the Native Americans and they have their own laws on reservations, the white man sure didn't learn much about "integrating" cultures in those early days, did WE ?
Good to read you, Jay. I wish more men of intellect and the giants would just swat harder and do a "smack down" with the same vehemence as they are dealt here, instead of punishing the rest of us who WANT an open forum for discussing coins and their designs/history, etc., etc., . That's why the boards suck , if they do suck…. because those who matter most aren't as involved at the core level in a lot of discussions, likely due to the utter disrespect and contempt held.
And just like coins, we (people) sometimes get on edge.
In the end, I like the idea of using the bison, the deer(buck), the beaver, the fox and the hound. The bear, the hummingbird and so much more that represents the WORLD we live in and the land we live on (or off of) as we struggle to establish unity in each neighborhood, city, state and county in this great nation.
And our history ? We cannot change. But tomorrow's change starts today.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
<< <i> "English" showed up with VD, small pox, whiskey and genocide.
>>
I dunno why you dragged Friday nights @ Otis' into this. He's not even a member here anymore.
I'm with you ... America the Beautiful is not about political celebrities,
no matter how much they may have contributed to making this country great.
The $20 Saint is the ideal design, and the Gobrecht dollar is another fitting tribute to Liberty.
The state quarters and their successors did bring nature into the imagery, but then there's that obverse,
which Washington himself would have abhorred.
We need a 1907-style coinage renaissance, but it won't be the same without silver and gold coinage ...
Those are softer metals that could be struck with beautiful detail. At high speed.
Best,
Sunnywood
Sunnywood's Rainbow-Toned Morgans (Retired)
Sunnywood's Barber Quarters (Retired)
<< <i>My final point is to consider some of the politicians we have on our coins and currency and ask oneself where is Teddy Roosevelt? >>
The Mint lost a real opportunity when they could have used Teddy Roosevelt as the obverse on the ATB Quarters series
Whatever you are, be a good one. ---- Abraham Lincoln
Twosides...you know that the slow exodus was because there was just too much trivial pursuits as well at trolls who couldn't recognize a worthwhile post and always had a gripe or a defiant 'tude. It just defeated the effort.
Teddy Roosevelt...I STILL don't get it. No coin, no bill, nothing. And a commem would have been an insult. He should have been on a $1,000,000 bill or a $100 gold orb! The most unexplainable question in all our years of mintage?
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
<< <i>So...how do you interpret the Loon on a Canadian dollar? >>
Better looking than the queen.
T. Roosevelt is on the 1991 Mt. Rushmore commemoratives.The half dollar in copper-nickel and the silver dollar show Roosevelt the best.The gold $5 has a wonderful representation of the American Bald Eagle on its obverse.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
Word said, there should be no monarchs on coinage.
All Patriarchs, have agree and did agree afterwards.
I love most aspects of TR, but if you want to be politically correct, you would never agree to have a coin minted in his image. If you want me to relate all of his negatives, I can.
Lastly, I would agree with Washington, et. al., and say that Liberty should reflect the essence of our coinage and country. If you want to propose an economical method of representing our current barter system, and commemorate our country's heritage, propose something reasonable that satisfies both.
Otherwise, STFU.
If a persons portrait must be on coins, then there should be a maximum time limit of production, say 20 years. Enough is enough. Commemoratives are fine, but should be minted for only a short limited time period. Even some of the reverses are sacred, just look what happened when they tried to change the Monticello reverse on the nickel, they had to change it back to Monticello.
Changing the designs of coins was a much easier thing to do until the current presidential series's began.
Bob