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Counterfeit 1955 Doubled Die Cent - Cast?

WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
Been studying this coin and it appears to be counterfeit but not certain how it was made. Cast? The weight is proper and is quite deceptive to the naked eye but the photos seem to show clearly that it is not authentic. Welcome opinions.

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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is a lot wrong with that coin. Look close.
    As a comp, the real deal.
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably struck from a false die made by impacting a normal 1955 cent into the end of a rod of heat-softened steel twice. Couldn't say for sure without seeing it.
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That area behind the head is a dead giveaway. Fake.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My vote would be cast copy because of the bubbles. Henry D. Higgins copied Civil War token designs by using the heat softened steel method, and his pieces looked better than this.

    Here is one of Higgins' copies paired with his reverse die.

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    And here is an example of the original token. Higgins used one like this to make the copy. Higgins' CWTs are known as "Indiana Primitives."

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    If it were not for the coin it is I would have said a late die state softly struck. I would give it an acetone bath and see if it changes color because of the hazy appearance. I would also see if you can get Fred to take a look. Are any LDS versions known for this?
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thats not for me.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,810 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If it were not for the coin it is I would have said a late die state softly struck. I would give it an acetone bath and see if it changes color because of the hazy appearance. I would also see if you can get Fred to take a look. Are any LDS versions known for this? >>



    Sorry, that's just wishful thinking. There is no "late die state" for this. It would certainly not one that would look like this mushy with this kind of deterioration. The 1955 Doubled Die making error was found, and it was taken out of service before the die could get this bad. The mint personnel knew this happened, but they did not want to take the time to sort though a couple hundred thousand coins to find them.

    As for having "Fred take a look at it," come on folks. You need to get some confidence in your own expertise. Personal knowledge is FAR better than depending on experts all the time.
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    GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    100% fake!

    On top of the spread being different, the fake is a CW and the real one is CCW.
    Ed
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>100% fake!

    On top of the spread being different, the fake is a CW and the real one is CCW. >>



    Exactly Ed.
    Everything is all wrong with it.
    Look at the numbers I posted and then look at the numbers on the fake.
    Look close.
    Look at the D in GOD... or LIBERTY

    It's all wrong.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"

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