Here's a stopper: 1889 Proof Twenty Lib PCGS PR67DCAM - PICS

SethChandler · July 25, 2014 4:30AM

Great coin, and the photo really shows off the black and white contrast! I used to think that the mid to late 1890's what the height of the Philadelphia Mint's quality for Proof Coins, but this 1889 Proof Twenty will surely give any coin a run for its money. Its just popped up on PCGS CoinFacts, PR67DCAM. 41 made. 12 to 15 known is my guess. Some may not agree with how the coin looks but wow, is this coin a stopper. I've got one of the new Apple 27 inch HD screens, and when this coin is blown up, wow, wow, wow is all I can say. What a great photo, the quality of photos has really gotten better. Good job PCGS! There are dozens of newly graded proof gold coins on CoinFacts. I guess Simpson is performing set reviews, or Sunnywood is really making a splash jumping back in, - thanks to the owner, as we get to see some great coins and they are memorialized with the excellent photos.

I have also attached a photo of the next highest graded. PCGS PR65+DCAM. Love the color and originality. I'd merge the two coins if I could. I would just guess that the 67DCAM is worth 350k, and the PR65+DCAM is worth 150k. Which coin do you prefer and why?

Lakesammman · July 25, 2014 6:46AM

I like the cameo on the first, the color on the second but recognize they could look different in hand. Both beautiful!

LochNESS · July 25, 2014 6:51AM

The features on the second - the bust, hair, and reverse eagle and stars - are superior IMO. But the deep black cameo on the first is clearly a winner there. So yes I vote for a merger

Photoshop anyone?

tradedollarnut · July 25, 2014 6:52AM

Probably the same coin.

LochNESS · July 25, 2014 6:56AM

No way, the scratches in the fields and the copper spots don't line up. Marks don't match. No dip is that good.

Also, after viewing those Saddle Ridge Hoard coins and browsing the massive list from SS Central America this coin really has perfect timing! It's Liberty Head gold season!

SeattleSlammer · July 25, 2014 8:54AM

DCAM gold is so cool.

halfhunter · July 25, 2014 9:19AM

Crazy, but my eyes go straight to those copper spots on the 67 DCAM. Prolly not as noticeable in-hand though.

I wouldn't kick either of them out however ! ! !

HH

originalisbest · July 25, 2014 10:04AM

Not the same coin, but if were given the choice of one or the other, I like the skin evident on the 65+ much better, and the price is better too, leaves more $ to buy other nice things. Whether at $40 or $400,000 level, this is how I approach numismatics generally. Don't care for or need the many multiples that can result from a point or two up the ladder, when both choice A and B are properly considered "gems."

PQueue · July 25, 2014 10:13AM

Seth,
Great post, thanks for sharing the pics.
Obviously one needs to see either in hand.
I can tell the 65+ has not been dipped. Any denomination of proof liberty gold with that natural (undipped) haze is pretty scarce.

TPRC · July 27, 2014 11:28AM

<< <i>Seth,
Great post, thanks for sharing the pics.
Obviously one needs to see either in hand.
I can tell the 65+ has not been dipped. Any denomination of proof liberty gold with that natural (undipped) haze is pretty scarce. >>

Interesting and something I didn't know. I do like originality, but I am not sure I know what it is on high grade gold.

CommemDude · July 27, 2014 11:29PM

I'm a gold ignoramus, but on a coin thats 125 years old I prefer the original look of the 65+ any day over the too-good-to-be-real look of the 67.

PQueue · July 28, 2014 12:28AM

TPRC,
Unfortunately from what I have seen, most Proof Liberty Gold has been dipped just like 19th century silver has.

> I don't know if the 67DCAM has been dipped or not, but the 65+ shows the originality SethChandler points out.
> I am not a photographer, but I am certain the 65+ looks much better in hand than the pictures show.
> Original toning in Proof LIBERTY Gold is similar to silver. It starts around the outer fields and progresses towards the devices. The obverse of the 65+, especially from 11:00 to 5:30, illustrates this nicely.

Last year I posted a thread on my PR set. My $5 and $10 are the most heavily toned, look similar to this 65+, and superb in hand. Many viewers might not realize this from the pictures. Here's a link to my pics if you want to see a few other examples of original Proof Gold:
PQueue's 1907 Gold Proof Set

johnny9434 · July 28, 2014 5:17AM

thats a wicked nice coin

shorecoll · July 28, 2014 6:04AM

I'm slightly with CommemDude...that first one doesn't look real...looks like DCarr stamped it out yesterday.

LochNESS · July 30, 2014 9:55AM

Well I'm glad you guys don't like DCAM gold. Leaves more for m

Here's a stopper: 1889 Proof Twenty Lib PCGS PR67DCAM - PICS

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