I reported them last night also. For some reason, I felt like giving the guy the benefit of the doubt regarding their authenticity and sent him a note informing him that they were all fakes (I almost NEVER do this). If anyone had any doubts about where these fakes originated from, he was quite clear in his reply:
<< <i>I have no idea whether these were actual coins or just lucky pieces, as stated. I've been told that even as lucky pieces that were purchased during World War II in China, many people collect them. I'm told that you used to be able to go to many stores in China and find these, whether actual coins or not and when we were there two years ago, we looked everywhere and they are no longer sold. If counterfeited, I would think they would still be readily available, at least over there. Secondly, these are strictly of interest to me because of their paranormal association, which is also stated in the opening paragraph if every single listing I have. I normally only sell in the metaphysical category since that is my expertise. I did see coin holders and snuff holders that looked like trade dollars so I thought that anything in that category might be of interest to someone out there. I appreciate your input and I would imagine that any collector will be as much of an expert as you are and see these for whatever they are. I listed them for $25.00 each BECAUSE I didn't know what they are. I can only describe what I see, which I've done, and show the photos. I did take these to three coin shops here to try and get a better assessment and each owner told me they had never actually seen a Trade Dollar so they couldn't tell me a value for these. Have a great night. - haunts4u >>
Three coin shops and none of them have ever seen a Trade Dollar? Yeah, right. This guy knows what he has.
It's a private sale too, and that means that I will have to log-in to find out my status.
DRAT!!!
It's nice to see they have piano in the house. Perhaps they will play a funeral dirge for you while you are getting buried in this "Canton China" mint "Trade Dollar."
Perhaps Uncle Charlie wasn't a fighter pilot at all but a time traveler. He went up in time, bought this "old - new" "Trade Dollar" from the Canton China mint and then went back to World War II.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
<< <i> I'm told that you used to be able to go to many stores in China and find these, whether actual coins or not and when we were there two years ago, we looked everywhere and they are no longer sold. >>
LOL!
You'd have to be blind and deaf to "look everywhere" and not be able to find a counterfeit U.S. trade dollar being sold in China!
FYI...Not a "dude" on this end! A female attorney actually, with a more expansive vocabulary than what I see in your message. The great thing about EBay is that there are thousands of other items you can look at. With that being said, I'm sure you'll find something worthwhile that might interest you elsewhere DUDE! I have no idea whether these are actual coins or just lucky pieces, as stated. I've been told that even as lucky pieces that were purchased during World War II in China, many people collect them. I'm told that you used to be able to go to many stores in China and find these, whether actual coins or not and when we were there two years ago, we looked everywhere and they are no longer sold. If counterfeited, I would think they would still be readily available, at least over there. Secondly, these are strictly of interest to me because of their paranormal association, which is also stated in the opening paragraph of every single listing I have. I normally only sell in the metaphysical category since that is my expertise. I did see coin holders and snuff holders that looked like trade dollars so I thought that anything in that category might be of interest to someone out there that collected coins so I added that category. I appreciate your input and I would imagine that any collector will be as much of an expert as you are and see these for whatever they are. I listed them for $25.00 each BECAUSE I didn't know what they are. I can only describe what I see, which I've done, and show the photos. I did take these to three coin shops here to try and get a better assessment and each owner told me they had never actually seen a Trade Dollar so they couldn't tell me a value for these. Have a great night and thanks for the courteous message...Dude. (You did give me a good chuckle though! Hadn't heard anyone use "Dude" since Beavis & Butthead days! I thought it was outdated!)
"FYI...Not a "dude" on this end! A female attorney actually, with a more expansive vocabulary than what I see in your message."
Really? i don't know how a person would know that with only one message and then try to insult someone with her "presumed-by-her-alone" word advantage and superior knowledge. Proll'y a 24 year old para-legal in training, pretending to be someone she ain't. i am not impressed.
<< <i>I normally only sell in the metaphysical category since that is my expertise. >>
Wha' dat mean???????????
It is still there because it has not been reported enough times yet. The seller is apparently one of those "talk mumbo-jumbo and confuse them" types. In this case CC means "Chinese Counterfeit". If this person is a real lawyer as she says, she should know it is illegal to sell fakes as genuine, no matter what the wording. Please report if you have not already.
<< <i> I normally only sell in the metaphysical category since that is my expertise. >>
Sort of like my grandfather, whom I never met, who in his youth sold an elixir he made up in a bathtub from the back of a wagon. He and his partner said that the stuff provided "metaphysical cures" for what ailed you, probably like a stiff dose of Ex Lax.
I guess she is in the business of selling Trade Dollars that are "metaphysically genuine."
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
It's kind of funny that this dudette researched how many Trade Dollars were minted, why they were minted, and what region they were exchanged in. But never cared to Google "CC" to find out what that meant....She's most likely a file clerk at Jacoby and Myers in her pretend metaphysical upper realm.
Reported.
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"I did take these to three coin shops here to try and get a better assessment and each owner told me they had never actually seen a Trade Dollar so they couldn't tell me a value for these. "
<< <i>All the fake Trade dollars closed- at high bids- with eBay taking no action. >>
It is really sad. Besides all of the usual signs, that fake 77-CC had a Type 1 reverse. I reported all of them, too, along with many others in different categories, so Ebay is ignoring a lot of reports. Personally, I think we're wasting our time sending in the reports, but I can't stop myself. I feel like I have to do something...
I tried reporting a fake William the Conqueror penny the other day, it was so obvious it even had the modern mint's name stamped into it, although pic was dark, no action taken and sold for >$500. Dunno how effective reporting is these days.
As the word slowly spreads about eBay's reluctance to take action on reports of counterfeit coin listings, the awareness of their gross mismanagement will eventually cause potential bidders/buyers to use greater caution and this will hopefully lead to drastic drops in revenue in this category as well as others, as eBay continues their losing battle with Amazon. I have noticed a drastic drop in the number of listings of trashy replica Trade Dollars on eBay recently, but in light of the recent disbanding of the CCF Board, there probably will be a strong resurgence of this crap.
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reported all of his TDs
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<< <i>I have no idea whether these were actual coins or just lucky pieces, as stated. I've been told that even as lucky pieces that were purchased during World War II in China, many people collect them. I'm told that you used to be able to go to many stores in China and find these, whether actual coins or not and when we were there two years ago, we looked everywhere and they are no longer sold. If counterfeited, I would think they would still be readily available, at least over there. Secondly, these are strictly of interest to me because of their paranormal association, which is also stated in the opening paragraph if every single listing I have. I normally only sell in the metaphysical category since that is my expertise. I did see coin holders and snuff holders that looked like trade dollars so I thought that anything in that category might be of interest to someone out there. I appreciate your input and I would imagine that any collector will be as much of an expert as you are and see these for whatever they are. I listed them for $25.00 each BECAUSE I didn't know what they are. I can only describe what I see, which I've done, and show the photos. I did take these to three coin shops here to try and get a better assessment and each owner told me they had never actually seen a Trade Dollar so they couldn't tell me a value for these. Have a great night. - haunts4u >>
Three coin shops and none of them have ever seen a Trade Dollar? Yeah, right. This guy knows what he has.
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
It's a private sale too, and that means that I will have to log-in to find out my status.
DRAT!!!
It's nice to see they have piano in the house. Perhaps they will play a funeral dirge for you while you are getting buried in this "Canton China" mint "Trade Dollar."
Perhaps Uncle Charlie wasn't a fighter pilot at all but a time traveler. He went up in time, bought this "old - new" "Trade Dollar" from the Canton China mint and then went back to World War II.
<< <i> I'm told that you used to be able to go to many stores in China and find these, whether actual coins or not and when we were there two years ago, we looked everywhere and they are no longer sold. >>
LOL!
You'd have to be blind and deaf to "look everywhere" and not be able to find a counterfeit U.S. trade dollar being sold in China!
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FYI...Not a "dude" on this end! A female attorney actually, with a more
expansive vocabulary than what I see in your message. The great thing about
EBay is that there are thousands of other items you can look at. With that
being said, I'm sure you'll find something worthwhile that might interest
you elsewhere DUDE! I have no idea whether these are actual coins or just
lucky pieces, as stated. I've been told that even as lucky pieces that
were purchased during World War II in China, many people collect them. I'm
told that you used to be able to go to many stores in China and find these,
whether actual coins or not and when we were there two years ago, we looked
everywhere and they are no longer sold. If counterfeited, I would think
they would still be readily available, at least over there. Secondly,
these are strictly of interest to me because of their paranormal
association, which is also stated in the opening paragraph of every single
listing I have. I normally only sell in the metaphysical category since
that is my expertise. I did see coin holders and snuff holders that looked
like trade dollars so I thought that anything in that category might be of
interest to someone out there that collected coins so I added that
category. I appreciate your input and I would imagine that any collector
will be as much of an expert as you are and see these for whatever they
are. I listed them for $25.00 each BECAUSE I didn't know what they are. I
can only describe what I see, which I've done, and show the photos. I did
take these to three coin shops here to try and get a better assessment and
each owner told me they had never actually seen a Trade Dollar so they
couldn't tell me a value for these. Have a great night and thanks for the
courteous message...Dude. (You did give me a good chuckle though! Hadn't
heard anyone use "Dude" since Beavis & Butthead days! I thought it was
outdated!)
-haunts4u
Why is this item still listed?
peacockcoins
"FYI...Not a "dude" on this end! A female attorney actually, with a more
expansive vocabulary than what I see in your message."
Really? i don't know how a person would know that with only one message and then try to insult someone with her "presumed-by-her-alone" word advantage and superior knowledge. Proll'y a 24 year old para-legal in training, pretending to be someone she ain't. i am not impressed.
<< <i>I normally only sell in the metaphysical category since that is my expertise. >>
It is still there because it has not been reported enough times yet. The seller is apparently one of those "talk mumbo-jumbo and confuse them" types. In this case CC means "Chinese Counterfeit". If this person is a real lawyer as she says, she should know it is illegal to sell fakes as genuine, no matter what the wording. Please report if you have not already.
Reported.
Bob
1877-cc
1874-s
All of which look fake to me.
<< <i> I normally only sell in the metaphysical category since that is my expertise. >>
Sort of like my grandfather, whom I never met, who in his youth sold an elixir he made up in a bathtub from the back of a wagon. He and his partner said that the stuff provided "metaphysical cures" for what ailed you, probably like a stiff dose of Ex Lax.
I guess she is in the business of selling Trade Dollars that are "metaphysically genuine."
Reported.
"La Vostra Nonna Ha Faccia Del Fungo"
take these to three coin shops here to try and get a better assessment and
each owner told me they had never actually seen a Trade Dollar so they
couldn't tell me a value for these. "
peacockcoins
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
<< <i>All the fake Trade dollars closed- at high bids- with eBay taking no action. >>
It is really sad. Besides all of the usual signs, that fake 77-CC had a Type 1 reverse. I reported all of them, too, along with many others in different categories, so Ebay is ignoring a lot of reports. Personally, I think we're wasting our time sending in the reports, but I can't stop myself. I feel like I have to do something...
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
Dunno how effective reporting is these days.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
So this "attorney lady with the vast vocabulary" apparently has a boilerplate response at the ready, or is an excellent cut-and-paster!
If eBay won't act, isn't it a felony to use the mail across state lines to knowingly sell fakes?
-- Dave