SS Central America recovery update, Lots of gold coins! Over 9000 silver coins!
HalfStrike
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April 15th to May 13th-
19 gold ingots
414 double eagles
24 $10 gold eagles
127 $5 gold half eagles
21 $3 gold
145 $2.50 quarter eagles
103 $1 gold dollars
9 Cal fractional gold
8931 silver dimes
504 25 cent quarters
345 50 cent pieces
This is from May 14th to June 15th.
2 1 cent copper coins
24 gold ingots
18 CA fractional gold coins
52 $1 gold coins
34 $2.5 quarter eagle gold coins
9 $3 gold coins
25 $5 half eagle gold coins
13 $10 eagle gold coins
888 $20 double eagle gold coins
1 unattributed gold coin
14 foreign gold coins
6 gold coin cluster
10 deposits of gold dust
20 gold jewelry
1 5 cent silver
122 10 cent silver
3 25 cent silver
1529 foreign silver coins
1 silver coin cluster
7 unattributed silver coins
60 misc artifacts
Summaries arc based on onboard observations and will be
adjusted through the conservation process as gold dust and
nuggetsare weighedand coin clumps and other unattributed
coins are examined.
June 15 to July 15-
I don't see an exact total but it has about 50 more Chilean pesos and maybe 170 more gold double eagles to add to above. The double eagles are mostly 1857S and 1856S with some kellog, moffat, Assay, 1853 USAO's, 1855 Was Molitors.
This is the silver dime find:
During Dive 15 some bags of coins and other artifacts were recovered from a
metal safe box on the seabed. Once aboard the ship, we determined that among these coins were
thousands of silver coins, including what proved to be about 9,000 United States dimes. The
massive number of items (for perspective, this number exceeded the total number of individually
listed coins recovered during all of the 1988-1991 salvage operations) precipitated the need for
procedures that varied from the standard procedures used for the more valuable gold coins, and
this resulted in a miscount.
Update again: As best as i can determine, the total number of coins found so far is 13,688 in total. The $20 double eagles seem to mostly 1856 S and 1857 S coins. The $3 gold coins are mostly 1856 S coins.
Interesting is that besides San Francisco mint coins there are a few New orleans, carson City, Phil. and dahlonega coins in the mix. All the gold dollars i see are PA coins. Foreign gold are sovereigns and other items. The smallest gold bar weights 13.78 ounces, the largest 319.22 ounces.
Update on silver dimes: Saw this paragraph and the coins are in good enough condition to count individually-
"During NCS's detailed inventory it was apparent that most of the variances involved U.S.
silver dimes that were stacked in pots. I and other members of the NCS team observed
that many of the 26 to 31 coin slacks were of the same height. In NCS's detailed
inventory we carefully removed each coin from these pots and counted them
individually. This was a time-consuming process that involved counting the dimes
several times, which gave us confidence in the exact totals for each pot and container."
Update on overview:
"A portion of the stern area had been explored and
recovery had been conducted during the 1988-1991 ex
peditions, however additional gold cargo was found and
recovered during this reporting period. In all, more than
900 gold coins, 24 gold bars and multiple deposits of nug
gets and dust were found and recovered between May 25
and June 12, 201A in this area of the shipwreck. The loca
tions ol cultural heritage items that were not recovered
were recorded."
What i read earlier was they first focused on the surface gold and debris field, then started to do the main recovery inside the hull.
The $3 gold coins seem have been out of the debris filed so that must have been some poor passengers load.
The half eagles and quarter eagles are mostly 1857 S and 1856 S coins, although some older dates are among those. I am guessing here only that the 1856S and 1857 S coins were out of the stern section and the other dates are passenger gold in the debris field. I can't do every date it is too hard to do but here are most of the older
half eagles - 1855S 1855C 1853C 1853D 1851 1851D 1851C 1850 1848 1847 1847C 1846 1845 1844 1843 1843O 1843D 1840 1839 1838 1835 1834
Quarter eagles- 1857S 1856S 1854 1854O 1853 1852 1852O 1851 1851O 1850 1850O 1849O 1849 1846D 1847O 1847C 1846D 1846O 1844C 1843O 1843D 1839D 1836 1835
There are a few listed as Rare in the inventory, so let me add a couple of those. I don't know why they are singled out as many of the ones are pretty rare.
1853 USAO double eagle
1853 Moffet double eagle
1852C $5 gold
1849D $5 gold
1849 Moffet $5 gold
1841D $5 gold
1838 $5 gold
Other interesting items:
1853D $5 gold This one is holed though, also has a few hold gold dollars i see
1857S $3 gold says very high grades
1851O double eagle
1852O double eagle
19 gold ingots
414 double eagles
24 $10 gold eagles
127 $5 gold half eagles
21 $3 gold
145 $2.50 quarter eagles
103 $1 gold dollars
9 Cal fractional gold
8931 silver dimes
504 25 cent quarters
345 50 cent pieces
This is from May 14th to June 15th.
2 1 cent copper coins
24 gold ingots
18 CA fractional gold coins
52 $1 gold coins
34 $2.5 quarter eagle gold coins
9 $3 gold coins
25 $5 half eagle gold coins
13 $10 eagle gold coins
888 $20 double eagle gold coins
1 unattributed gold coin
14 foreign gold coins
6 gold coin cluster
10 deposits of gold dust
20 gold jewelry
1 5 cent silver
122 10 cent silver
3 25 cent silver
1529 foreign silver coins
1 silver coin cluster
7 unattributed silver coins
60 misc artifacts
Summaries arc based on onboard observations and will be
adjusted through the conservation process as gold dust and
nuggetsare weighedand coin clumps and other unattributed
coins are examined.
June 15 to July 15-
I don't see an exact total but it has about 50 more Chilean pesos and maybe 170 more gold double eagles to add to above. The double eagles are mostly 1857S and 1856S with some kellog, moffat, Assay, 1853 USAO's, 1855 Was Molitors.
This is the silver dime find:
During Dive 15 some bags of coins and other artifacts were recovered from a
metal safe box on the seabed. Once aboard the ship, we determined that among these coins were
thousands of silver coins, including what proved to be about 9,000 United States dimes. The
massive number of items (for perspective, this number exceeded the total number of individually
listed coins recovered during all of the 1988-1991 salvage operations) precipitated the need for
procedures that varied from the standard procedures used for the more valuable gold coins, and
this resulted in a miscount.
Update again: As best as i can determine, the total number of coins found so far is 13,688 in total. The $20 double eagles seem to mostly 1856 S and 1857 S coins. The $3 gold coins are mostly 1856 S coins.
Interesting is that besides San Francisco mint coins there are a few New orleans, carson City, Phil. and dahlonega coins in the mix. All the gold dollars i see are PA coins. Foreign gold are sovereigns and other items. The smallest gold bar weights 13.78 ounces, the largest 319.22 ounces.
Update on silver dimes: Saw this paragraph and the coins are in good enough condition to count individually-
"During NCS's detailed inventory it was apparent that most of the variances involved U.S.
silver dimes that were stacked in pots. I and other members of the NCS team observed
that many of the 26 to 31 coin slacks were of the same height. In NCS's detailed
inventory we carefully removed each coin from these pots and counted them
individually. This was a time-consuming process that involved counting the dimes
several times, which gave us confidence in the exact totals for each pot and container."
Update on overview:
"A portion of the stern area had been explored and
recovery had been conducted during the 1988-1991 ex
peditions, however additional gold cargo was found and
recovered during this reporting period. In all, more than
900 gold coins, 24 gold bars and multiple deposits of nug
gets and dust were found and recovered between May 25
and June 12, 201A in this area of the shipwreck. The loca
tions ol cultural heritage items that were not recovered
were recorded."
What i read earlier was they first focused on the surface gold and debris field, then started to do the main recovery inside the hull.
The $3 gold coins seem have been out of the debris filed so that must have been some poor passengers load.
The half eagles and quarter eagles are mostly 1857 S and 1856 S coins, although some older dates are among those. I am guessing here only that the 1856S and 1857 S coins were out of the stern section and the other dates are passenger gold in the debris field. I can't do every date it is too hard to do but here are most of the older
half eagles - 1855S 1855C 1853C 1853D 1851 1851D 1851C 1850 1848 1847 1847C 1846 1845 1844 1843 1843O 1843D 1840 1839 1838 1835 1834
Quarter eagles- 1857S 1856S 1854 1854O 1853 1852 1852O 1851 1851O 1850 1850O 1849O 1849 1846D 1847O 1847C 1846D 1846O 1844C 1843O 1843D 1839D 1836 1835
There are a few listed as Rare in the inventory, so let me add a couple of those. I don't know why they are singled out as many of the ones are pretty rare.
1853 USAO double eagle
1853 Moffet double eagle
1852C $5 gold
1849D $5 gold
1849 Moffet $5 gold
1841D $5 gold
1838 $5 gold
Other interesting items:
1853D $5 gold This one is holed though, also has a few hold gold dollars i see
1857S $3 gold says very high grades
1851O double eagle
1852O double eagle
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<< <i>All 888 are 1892-S in low to mid MS grades
^^^^^^^^^^^
SRH Joke
<< <i>And the mystery remains! Will any of the 2+1/2's or 5's be dated 1854-S??? >>
that would be huge, most likely increase prices unless we are talking dozens
--Severian the Lame
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
Be glad that gold didn't go to 25K an ounce. If it had, they would have been planing off the backs of 1857-S $20's.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
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<< <i>This is so exciting. Do I remember correctly that some of the bars salvaged from the previous expedition were melted, or had their faces sawed off, rather than leaving them intact? Seems like I recall hearing that. Terribly sad loss to our history if that's the case. >>
As I recall they did saw off the surfaces of the bars , to preserve the history, and then they used the interior Gold to mint
replica $50 slugs of some sort. I think they might have been 1855 Kellogg Slugs made with 2.5 ounces of actual SSCA
Gold recovered from the insides of the bars.
You can find these things for sale from time to time. They're interesting but rather pricey because of the amount of
Gold used.
<< <i>I need to start saving now to get in on this one. No more wasting money on junk like US Mint modern j u n k. >>
...didn't you say the same thing about the SRH and then you schlepped out when they hit the market? If so, then you should have plenty left to pull the trigger on this one eh?
Erik
<< <i>Wow! I am very surprised that there is so much gold still down there. >>
ditto.
The original group must have needed new glasses.
BHNC #203
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<< <i>I need to start saving now to get in on this one. No more wasting money on junk like US Mint modern j u n k. >>
...didn't you say the same thing about the SRH and then you schlepped out when they hit the market? If so, then you should have plenty left to pull the trigger on this one eh?
Erik >>
I put my SRH money to much better use , I paid off my Truck 51 months early. When it comes to SSCA, I'll probably do
something similar like buy a House or a large block of Stock in FCA ( Fiat Chrysler Automobiles). Lately I like to dream
about buying Coins but when it comes down to it I can think of far better uses for my Cash.
Dreaming is free.
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<< <i>Wow! I am very surprised that there is so much gold still down there. >>
ditto.
The original group must have needed new glasses. >>
As the current ebbs and flows it shifts around the seafloor and uncovers more treasure and potentially covers up treasure to be uncovered one day or remain permanently covered. You gotta think this stuff was scattered all over the place in a big area down deep.
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
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<< <i>I need to start saving now to get in on this one. No more wasting money on junk like US Mint modern j u n k. >>
...didn't you say the same thing about the SRH and then you schlepped out when they hit the market? If so, then you should have plenty left to pull the trigger on this one eh?
Erik >>
I put my SRH money to much better use , I paid off my Truck 51 months early. When it comes to SSCA, I'll probably do
something similar like buy a House or a large block of Stock in FCA ( Fiat Chrysler Automobiles). Lately I like to dream
about buying Coins but when it comes down to it I can think of far better uses for my Cash.
Dreaming is free.
GREAT Answer buddy! Can't argue with any of that
Erik
Odyssey Marine Exporation