Please give me your honest thoughts and grade guesses ...

Ajjohnson77 · July 16, 2014 1:15AM

This is a Morgan I happen to have been holding tight to. What's your grade and overall opinion of the coin? Is it likeable for a long time hold?

joeykoins · July 16, 2014 1:17AM

Too dark but detailed intensely! 67MS

commoncents05 · July 16, 2014 1:21AM

My first impression was MS65. Likely could go higher, but usually dark coins have muted luster preventing a higher grade.

-Paul

lostincoins · July 16, 2014 1:40AM

MS66 I feel the image is flat to show all the detail and would bet that in hand the coin shows differently. I would hold on to it.

JJM · July 16, 2014 1:42AM

looks like a hammered coin for sure !!! edited because my guess was so baaaaaaad haha

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TommyType · July 16, 2014 1:52AM

I like it! A lot of character there.

As for long term....depends on why? If you want to hold it because it's a beautiful coin, then by all means. If the goal is long term investment, I'm not sure an 1881-S is going anywhere. They are common as dirt, and unless it's a monster grade, I'm not sure it has huge upside price potential.

(I cheated, and checked the grade, so I won't play in that game....but I was reasonably close. Really!)

AnkurJ · July 16, 2014 1:53AM

MS66
Eye appeal is so so as the coin appears to be dark. This is a common date often found with booming luster and amazing toning. Personally I would look for a better example.

kennytpez · July 16, 2014 1:55AM

I would say MS-65.

BryceM · July 16, 2014 2:00AM

I'm guessing MS65, mostly because TrueViews usually do a decent job of showing luster and this one looks slightly flat - might just be the toning though.

I like it. It's well struck and the color is a plus and adds character. Very few marks and the cheek and neck are sweet.

...... now I'm off to check the grade. Be right back.........

Whew. I'm not totally off-base. As others have said, there are zillions of these to chose from. If you like it, keep it!

When you're done with the thread I'd be interested to know why YOU think it graded as it did.

joebb21 · July 16, 2014 2:02AM

looks like a high ms66 or low ms67 to me.

However, depending on how the lusted looks in hand will determine one way or the other for me.

Just to add- looking at it more the toning on the right side is hiding some long marks- so maybe just a ms66

AUandAG · July 16, 2014 2:11AM

Looks 66 to my eyes. Color is not really attractive to me, though.

If you like and it's a 66 or higher it's a keeper.

bob

Just looked and I did do well on the GTG!

Type2 · July 16, 2014 2:18AM

Hard to tell by the pic's, I sold off a bunch of 65's and 65+'s yours kinda looks 66 if so i would keep it around. Nice coin it's a hold i like the tone.

jcping · July 16, 2014 2:21AM

66+

telephoto1 · July 16, 2014 2:36AM

81-S is a common date that comes nice. I give yours a technical 66 but the toning is rather bland and it mutes the luster.
As far as long term hold... meh. If you like it, keep it but if it's me I'd look for a flashier example in a similar grade. They're out there.

BigMoose · July 16, 2014 2:40AM

Unless the coin has unbelievable luster, it probably graded 66.

DoubleEagle59 · July 16, 2014 2:41AM

This type of coin is my favorite to collect.

Ultra high grade with toning and muted luster.

Unfortunately, the TPG's highly prize luster so not only will this coin grade lower than it should (in my opinion), it's also a textbook example of a toned coin that will eventually be dipped by some frustrated collector who is tired of receiving a low grade.

Personally, I think the coin is an easy ms66, if not higher.

I wouldn't be surprised if you received an ms64.

I did receive an ms64 from a top TPG many years ago for a flawless 1896 Morgan, which ticked me off plenty because I bought the coin confidentally (raw) and paid ms66 money for it.

DennisH · July 16, 2014 2:49AM

Looks like a 67 to me.
You have to like toning in general and this toning in particular to keep it as a long time hold, because there are many examples in this grade to choose from.

cheezhed · July 16, 2014 2:57AM

I like it! Long time hold, not so much.

messydesk · July 16, 2014 3:25AM

<< <i>This is a Morgan I happen to have been holding tight to. What's your grade and overall opinion of the coin? Is it likeable for a long time hold? >>

As long you like it, then it's likeable. It's darker than usual for an 81-S. I'd have to see how the toning plays with the luster in hand to see how much I like it. 81-S is not rare in 66 or 67, so while it might not be "likeable" as an investment, that shouldn't stop you from enjoying the coin.

CoinJunkie · July 16, 2014 5:15AM

<< <i>Looks like a 67 to me.
You have to like toning in general and this toning in particular to keep it as a long time hold, because there are many examples in this grade to choose from. >>

If the luster is muted by the toning, it may be limited to 66.

The toning is neutral at best for that date/mm. If you are basing your hold decision on "investment potential",
don't expect this coin to outperform, as it were. OTOH, if you enjoy the coin, there is absolutely nothing
wrong with it that would argue for unloading it ASAP.

johnny9434 · July 16, 2014 5:18AM

ms 66 maybe

Eagleguy · July 16, 2014 5:20AM

I prefer the look of this Morgan to all those psychedelic monstrosities out there.

JH

JJSingleton · July 16, 2014 5:28AM

Well struck. Clean cheek. I can't see this graded less than 66.

I like the originality but it is probably too dark for many collector's liking.

Ajjohnson77 · July 16, 2014 6:08AM

Thanks for the advise all. It is a MS66. It was in a MS66 NGC holder and I cracked it because it has potential for a MS67. Most of you hot the mail on the head. I can find nearly a mark on the coin and the cheek is as clean as mine this morning after a hot shave. I think the darker tone held it back. The coin does explode with luster under light and I wish that counted for more. Oh, well. I think it beautiful and I got it for the right price. Wont have any problem holding it in my collection as opposed to those coins I can turn a profitable margin on. Thanks again.