NEWP....how do you determine value on these?

AUandAG · May 23, 2014 8:40AM

Just picked this off ebay for $50. Thought it was cool and was the only bidder. Perhaps I overpaid,
and that's okay. But, how do you determine value on rotated dies? The coin has NOT been cleaned
as the obverse is just a funky streaky toning. Is it a 45 degree clockwise rotation?
Thanks,
bob

Wabbit2313 · May 23, 2014 9:00AM

Howdy:

You did overpay a bit, and as far as I am concerned, it takes value away from the coin, on this date anyway. At least that was my experience with this one.

Type2 · May 23, 2014 9:01AM

As long as you are happy thats all that counts....

AUandAG · May 23, 2014 9:04AM

I thought $50 was a reasonable price but then with no other bidders I can see that I might have
overpaid. I also thought the streaky toning might turn off a lot as it looked like it was cleaning.
I messaged the seller about the cleaning and he indicated that it was toning. He was correct but
did not post that into the description.
They are cool and I am still pleased!

bob

Wabbit2313 · May 23, 2014 9:07AM

I hear ya. I was happy to find a nice 86-O that graded 58, but could not get anyone to buy it when I decided not to keep it. The "error" message in big print turned everyone off. A member here mentioned it could not be used in a registry set. I wouldn't know.

Pokermandude · May 23, 2014 9:07AM

Errors can be a thin market. That doesn't seem like an unreasonable price to me.

lostincoins · May 23, 2014 10:16AM

Cool Morgan Bob you know I like errors if you ever want to get rid of it just let me know as I don't do registry sets.....

amwldcoin · May 23, 2014 11:38AM

I am sure I have seen Rotated Die Dollars sell for a premium. They are not common at all. I am also curious how scarce Barber Halves are with a rotated Die. I own a substantial number of Barber Halves and have looked at thousands and have only seen the 1 I own!

sparky64 · May 23, 2014 11:57AM

I think it's cool and I also think the price is right.

AMRC · May 23, 2014 12:02PM

What ever the market will bear. Just enjoy it and try not to think about the $50.

AUandAG · May 23, 2014 1:00PM

amwldcoin, post that baby!

Anyone else have a rotated die, pile it on! Give us a look see!

bob

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD · May 23, 2014 1:11PM

<< <i>amwldcoin, post that baby!

Anyone else have a rotated die, pile it on! Give us a look see!

bob

>>

Here is my only one...I posted it in an earlier thread and Fred Weinberg was nice enough to attribute it as a 15% CCW rotated die. I sent it in for re-holder and TrueView but chose not to have it specified as a Mint Error so I could have it in my registry set.

Nice Morgan Bob,
Erik

AUandAG · May 23, 2014 1:17PM

That's nice too, Erik.

bob

rec78 · May 23, 2014 2:18PM

Value is in the eye of the beholder, or in this case, the owner. You decided that it was worth whatever you paid for it, just like anything else. The coolness factor takes over. If smoeone says you overpaid, ask them how many they have to sell at that price or less. I can tell you without asking ---they have exactly NONE. You did not overpay because if you go to sell it, another collector will say, "hay that is cool.!!", and will buy it. I paid more money for many a coin just because of the coolness factor and never considered the idea that I may have overpaid. I paid what I wanted to pay. A friend once said "even if you think you overpay for it, at least you have it". This is very true, many coins that a lot of people said I overpaid for, are no longer available at near the prices I overpaid for them years ago.

Bob

amwldcoin · May 23, 2014 7:37PM

<< <i>amwldcoin, post that baby!

Anyone else have a rotated die, pile it on! Give us a look see!

bob

>>

Unfortunately It is hiding in the SDB and I haven't taken a picture of it yet. I'll try to remember to get a picture of it the next time I pay her a visit!

291fifth · May 23, 2014 10:17PM

The value is whatever the market will bear. In my case the premium would be zero since I find rotated dies to be uninteresting. At $50 I suspect you are buried.

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD · May 24, 2014 2:21AM

<< <i>At $50 I suspect you are buried. >>

...how does one bury himself with $50??? I would assume that only penny's could be used...but you would still probably only get less than halfway buried...unless you are a small child or a dwarf of some sort

Erik

messydesk · May 24, 2014 2:54AM

1886-O is a good year for rotated dies. The VAM 11 and 11A sequence includes a 45 degree counter-clockwise rotation and clash marks while the die was rotated. Yours is a different die pair (normal date position, 45 degree clockwise rotation), but still interesting. For $50, maybe you overpaid a little, but it's still cool and you like it.

mbogoman · May 24, 2014 3:54AM

Here's mine. It lives in an MS64 slab from our host. The obverse toning is way more attractive than the photo indicates:

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