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I owe Stone an apology!
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Not a major blunder one to be sure, but about a 7 on a scale of ten.
Over the weekend Stone started a thread about a one star shipping fee rating that he left for a seller on Ebay who charged $5 for an envelope with a stamp on it.
For the next 80 posts he was hammered by those that thought the low feedback was wrong. I cordially opined that since he knew the cost of shipping going in, it was wrong to hit the star rating. Many were not so cordial.
Frankly it is none of my business to suggest what feedback anyone should leave for any seller.
Many of us have become hypnotized by the mighty Ebay and no more want to tick them off than attempt to steal the Ruby Slippers from the Wicked Witch.
We obsequiously bow when the fees get jacked up from 2% to 4% to 6% to 10%. Our only savior it seems is to pay $16 a month and grovel in fear each time a new feedback hits the board. The 20% discount has become our deity and lord help anyone that threatens to take that out.
Stone is as fine and classy a forum member as this place has ever known. Was it worth throwing an exemplary numismatist under the bus for a damn feedback rating? No it was not, I will answer that for you.
The Hell with Ebay and what it has done to many of us. I had a small but successful business before Ebay and will make do without them in the future.
Over the weekend Stone started a thread about a one star shipping fee rating that he left for a seller on Ebay who charged $5 for an envelope with a stamp on it.
For the next 80 posts he was hammered by those that thought the low feedback was wrong. I cordially opined that since he knew the cost of shipping going in, it was wrong to hit the star rating. Many were not so cordial.
Frankly it is none of my business to suggest what feedback anyone should leave for any seller.
Many of us have become hypnotized by the mighty Ebay and no more want to tick them off than attempt to steal the Ruby Slippers from the Wicked Witch.
We obsequiously bow when the fees get jacked up from 2% to 4% to 6% to 10%. Our only savior it seems is to pay $16 a month and grovel in fear each time a new feedback hits the board. The 20% discount has become our deity and lord help anyone that threatens to take that out.
Stone is as fine and classy a forum member as this place has ever known. Was it worth throwing an exemplary numismatist under the bus for a damn feedback rating? No it was not, I will answer that for you.
The Hell with Ebay and what it has done to many of us. I had a small but successful business before Ebay and will make do without them in the future.
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For a padded envelope: Add $1.50
For extra tape: Add $0.50
For shipping this week: Add $2.00
Oh wait...."time and gas". Right....right.....that's not factored into the pre shipping profit at all.
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Erik
<< <i>I don't understand why eBay sellers actually charge shipping rather than doing free shipping... everybody factors it in anyway... >>
...in some business it's a good way to launder money...through plucking profits from ghost shipping costs that can be written off as an expense
Erik
I am sure Stone would have been happy to have had a PM with an apology, but, hey, to each their own post count/thread creation/pot-stirring
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Hoard the keys.
If you are truly sorry for your actions my son , prove it by going one week without touching the new thread button
<< <i>If you are truly sorry for your actions my son , prove it by going one week without touching the new thread button
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<< <i>If you are truly sorry for your actions my son , prove it by going one week without touching the new thread button
That would be like asking a Cop to drive by a Dunkin' Donuts without going in.
(Hey! Wait a minute. . .)
While I appreciate the apology I don't feel it was entirely necessary. I ended up enjoying my beer
https://acoinshop.com/ —-> https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
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<< <i>If you are truly sorry for your actions my son , prove it by going one week without touching the new thread button
+1
<< <i>I don't understand why eBay sellers actually charge shipping rather than doing free shipping... everybody factors it in anyway... >>
$.99 Auctions usually have a minimum amount of shipping to ensure a minimum recovery of cost.
<< <i>Way to start the debate up, AGAIN, by starting a new thread.
I am sure Stone would have been happy to have had a PM with an apology, but, hey, to each their own post count/thread creation/pot-stirring
Good morning Bochiman!
Good idea folks.....one week without a new thread. let's see how it works out.
My eyes could use a bit of a break.
<< <i>If you are truly sorry for your actions my son , prove it by going one week without touching the new thread button
<< <i>I'd complain about the shipping too! For $5 I expect, at minimum, a nicely padded mailer with insurance. Not an envelope with a stamp, that's ridiculous. >>
As a buyer I don't care about insurance and would never pay for it. Insurance protects the seller. The risk is on him.
Lance.
Hack-a-rooskie.
<< <i>I don't understand why eBay sellers actually charge shipping rather than doing free shipping... everybody factors it in anyway... >>
Any tips on how to do that in an Auction?
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The Hell with Ebay and what it has done to many of us. I had a small but successful business before Ebay and will make do without them in the future. >>
Say what you will, and you do not have to like it, but eBay is to coins and coin dealers like gasoline is to cars. Good luck.
I also had free shipping on nearly all items with few exceptions for large bulking things.
I miss having my own eBay store at times.
In a couple days, the original poster can start a thread thanking this poster for apologizing.
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The Hell with Ebay and what it has done to many of us. I had a small but successful business before Ebay and will make do without them in the future. >>
Say what you will, and you do not have to like it, but eBay is to coins and coin dealers like gasoline is to cars. Good luck. >>
Well at least cars worth less than $2500!
friends all the time. It's healthy and normal.
I gave my thoughts in the shipping thread, and stand by them. Stone is under no obligation to pay the
slightest attention to what I wrote. For the record, Stone is one of my favorite posters on the board:
a very nice guy who treats everyone with respect.
<< <i>In a couple days, the original poster can start a thread thanking this poster for apologizing. >>
Ironically, nowhere within the OP is an apology.
<< <i>Geez, are we at a point where you owe someone an apology for disagreeing with them? >>
Disagreement is fine, another member though called Stone's action Chicken Sh-t .
Clearly street thug stuff that belongs on an NBA court....not here.
<< <i>MGLICKER you must like daytime soaps because you just don't stop the drama, give it a rest..... >>
Now that was a quality addition to the thread.
Whatever public lashing you end up with might be severe and dramatic but it will all be for the betterment
of Numismatics in general.
<< <i>I was just chastised and told to read rule #3 for making this joke " MGLICKER you must like daytime soaps because you just don't stop the drama, give it a rest" and I do not want to loose my membership to this forum as I was told retribution will be fast for this violation. I there fore offer my most heartfelt apology to MGLICKER for insinuating that he likes being involved in drama and that he likes daytime dram shows. I did not realize he would take such offense to this comment as much worse has been said to him and about him by others. I hope all of your reprimands were not so forceful as mine was, again please MGLICKER accept my apology and don't turn me in for making such a harmful joke. >>
I say he should be forgiven...don't go running off my drinking buddy MG
Erik
<< <i>Hey Erik thanks for the vote of confidence. It is actually in the 80s here in Wisconsin and I am feeling pretty good today. I am going to have a beer any recommendations? >>
Nice and refreshing and brewed close to home...try one
Erik
<< <i>I will give it a go I have not had a beer in over a year but the Dr. said one or 2 a week is no problem now just not to go overboard lol >>
Your dr. is a piker. AMA recommends two drinks a day.
<< <i> I there fore offer my most heartfelt apology to MGLICKER for insinuating that he likes being involved in drama and that he likes daytime dram shows >>
Accepted.
I guess the Precious Metals forum does not count?
<< <i>"Good idea folks.....one week without a new thread. let's see how it works out."
I guess the Precious Metals forum does not count?
...or the sports forum.
Heading up to Mt Lemmon for a break...see you folks on the other side.
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<< <i>"Good idea folks.....one week without a new thread. let's see how it works out."
I guess the Precious Metals forum does not count?
...or the sports forum.
Heading up to Mt Lemmon for a break...see you folks on the other side. >>
Lock your hubs in if you are going down the other side of Mt Lemmon
<< <i>Lock your hubs in if you are going down the other side of Mt Lemmon >>
Drove up the "other" side once in a Jeep.
On Mt. Lemmon, pavement is your friend.
<< <i>I don't understand why eBay sellers actually charge shipping rather than doing free shipping... everybody factors it in anyway... >>
This "factor" only applies to Buy It Now's.
BTW, I charge for shipping since not everything I sell is a guaranteed winner and I have to pay for the proper packaging of that which I sell which ain't cheap.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Honestly, I have pretty thick skin here. I found out from that post that my perspective wasn't as universally accepted as I initially anticipated and it was great to get a dose of reality from other members here.
While I appreciate the apology I don't feel it was entirely necessary. I ended up enjoying my beer
I don't think the posters in the other thread were being honest with themselves since its easier to criticize someone else than to understand what you were saying.
The seller deserved a ding on his "shipping and handling" so that other folks that bid on his listing might understand that even though they'll pay $5.25 for shipping, they won't get $5.25 worth of shipping. They'll get .95 cents worth of shipping.
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Honestly, I have pretty thick skin here. I found out from that post that my perspective wasn't as universally accepted as I initially anticipated and it was great to get a dose of reality from other members here.
While I appreciate the apology I don't feel it was entirely necessary. I ended up enjoying my beer
I don't think the posters in the other thread were being honest with themselves since its easier to criticize someone else than to understand what you were saying.
The seller deserved a ding on his "shipping and handling" so that other folks that bid on his listing might understand that even though they'll pay $5.25 for shipping, they won't get $5.25 worth of shipping. They'll get .95 cents worth of shipping. >>
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<< <i>Honestly, I have pretty thick skin here. I found out from that post that my perspective wasn't as universally accepted as I initially anticipated and it was great to get a dose of reality from other members here.
While I appreciate the apology I don't feel it was entirely necessary. I ended up enjoying my beer
I don't think the posters in the other thread were being honest with themselves since its easier to criticize someone else than to understand what you were saying.
The seller deserved a ding on his "shipping and handling" so that other folks that bid on his listing might understand that even though they'll pay $5.25 for shipping, they won't get $5.25 worth of shipping. They'll get .95 cents worth of shipping. >>
How do YOU know what they will get, or even what they will be ok with? If the shipping charge is known, upfront, prior to bidding, and they are ok with it, then to each their own, right? Unless you are the seller, or have talked to him, how do you know that each thing is packed the same way with the same materials?
The thing about these boards is everyone WANTS to have their opinion and have others agree with it. It won't happen. No one knows everything nor what others are thinking. Keeping an open mind to the point of realizing that one doesn't know what others are thinking is key....but that can't be forced either.
Ultimately, the issue was between Stone and the seller.....to bring other "future buyers" into it and use that as an excuse (and, note, Stone is not the one saying that) for the ding, is, imho, moronic and stretching to just add something to something that shouldn't even have been brought up as an issue...since, imho, it really isn't an issue.
But, hey, to each their own and it just shows how some folks are always about the negative......
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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<< <i>Honestly, I have pretty thick skin here. I found out from that post that my perspective wasn't as universally accepted as I initially anticipated and it was great to get a dose of reality from other members here.
While I appreciate the apology I don't feel it was entirely necessary. I ended up enjoying my beer
I don't think the posters in the other thread were being honest with themselves since its easier to criticize someone else than to understand what you were saying.
The seller deserved a ding on his "shipping and handling" so that other folks that bid on his listing might understand that even though they'll pay $5.25 for shipping, they won't get $5.25 worth of shipping. They'll get .95 cents worth of shipping. >>
How do YOU know what they will get, or even what they will be ok with? If the shipping charge is known, upfront, prior to bidding, and they are ok with it, then to each their own, right? Unless you are the seller, or have talked to him, how do you know that each thing is packed the same way with the same materials?
The thing about these boards is everyone WANTS to have their opinion and have others agree with it. It won't happen. No one knows everything nor what others are thinking. Keeping an open mind to the point of realizing that one doesn't know what others are thinking is key....but that can't be forced either.
Ultimately, the issue was between Stone and the seller.....to bring other "future buyers" into it and use that as an excuse (and, note, Stone is not the one saying that) for the ding, is, imho, moronic and stretching to just add something to something that shouldn't even have been brought up as an issue...since, imho, it really isn't an issue.
But, hey, to each their own and it just shows how some folks are always about the negative...... >>
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