Many were minted...so few remain

ambro51 · May 19, 2014 8:56AM

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Weiss · May 19, 2014 9:00AM

I'm usually a big proponent of caveat emptor, if you don't know the definition of mils or spurious, that's your fault.
But this is some serious BS.

Unknown · May 19, 2014 9:00AM

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FullStrike · May 19, 2014 9:02AM

A cant miss investment opportunity. Can I get 100 of those?

braddick · May 19, 2014 9:05AM

They won't even divulge if it's the seven or eight feather variety!

Charlatans!

ChiSao · May 19, 2014 9:08AM

How is this legal?

TPRC · May 19, 2014 9:09AM

This is so sad. And this one is worse than some others. From what I see, I think it may actually be actionable. I only see one little disclaimer in reduced font, referring to "copy."

kaz · May 19, 2014 9:27AM

You can be certain that the precious metal content is 0%, and in all likelihood they are made in China. The only thing missing are photos of armed guards pushing dollies loaded with bags of the "Proofs" to Brinks trucks.

CircOnly · May 19, 2014 10:47AM

This will go great with my 50$ gold buffalo I got for ten bucks off the TV commercial. #winning

sparky64 · May 19, 2014 10:54AM

I'll bet they ship quicker than the US Mint.

Seriously, this is sad. The B&M owners will have the burden of breaking the bad news to some people, come time to sell.
Red Book says $4000...........

MsMorrisine · May 19, 2014 11:02AM

<< How is this legal? >>

Somewhere in there it describes what is being sold. Under the web address it says it has copy on the reverse.

It's still hyped to death and the unsuspecting buy.

csdot · May 19, 2014 11:40AM

Sounds like once you order, they will start sending one a month until you successfully cancel, probably with a hefty restocking fee.

Does anyone see the metal content, or lack thereof, listed somewhere?

MGLICKER · May 19, 2014 11:50AM

Vault number....they always have a vault number on the shady sales.

CaptHenway · May 19, 2014 12:24PM

Well, as some would say, the potential suckers can always look up the facts on the internet first!

linky

MGLICKER · May 19, 2014 12:39PM

So for the $1100 for the full set, one could by a perhaps impaired, but real proof Morgan.

Lewy · May 19, 2014 1:01PM

I really don't see much wrong with what these folks are doing.......... Words like "recreated" and "returns" pretty much sum it all up........ They probably are rather pretty in hand...... especially if you are attracted to bright shiny things....... I seem to recall a year or two ago that someone here was recreating the return of a rather awesome looking peace dollar....... Could be where the notion arrived from.

BAJJERFAN · May 19, 2014 1:40PM

<< You can be certain that the precious metal content is 0%, and in all likelihood they are made in China. The only thing missing are photos of armed guards pushing dollies loaded with bags of the "Proofs" to Brinks trucks. >>

Since they are described as silver dollars, one would expect that they would be silver.

410a · May 19, 2014 1:49PM

So, where can we get a "Priority Registration Certificate" ? Huh?

MilkmanDan · May 19, 2014 2:09PM

C'mon guys, it says it's a copy...twice.

keets · May 19, 2014 3:00PM

if the Moonlight Mint did this with an 1877 date you guys would be wetting your pants and lining up to buy them!!

TommyType · May 19, 2014 5:31PM

<< if the Moonlight Mint did this with an 1877 date you guys would be wetting your pants and lining up to buy them!!

>>

I was waiting for someone with more "message board clout", (and balls), to suggest something like that. Thanks.

7Jaguars · May 20, 2014 12:13AM

No doubt a JS Boggs fan too, of course...
Boggs and Carr have some very nicely done bits that are put in perspective by both and not designed to deceive, and for those that like them; the rest likely ought to stay with what they prefer.

kaz · May 20, 2014 2:09AM

<< 

<< You can be certain that the precious metal content is 0%, and in all likelihood they are made in China. The only thing missing are photos of armed guards pushing dollies loaded with bags of the "Proofs" to Brinks trucks. >>

Since they are described as silver dollars, one would expect that they would be silver. >>

They seem to go out of their way to avoid stating the composition. That makes me very suspicious.

GritsMan · May 20, 2014 2:35AM

Just ordered ten!

CaptHenway · May 20, 2014 3:02AM

<< 

<< 

<< You can be certain that the precious metal content is 0%, and in all likelihood they are made in China. The only thing missing are photos of armed guards pushing dollies loaded with bags of the "Proofs" to Brinks trucks. >>

Since they are described as silver dollars, one would expect that they would be silver. >>

They seem to go out of their way to avoid stating the composition. That makes me very suspicious. >>

You can take it to the bank that if they don't say it is silver, it is not.

BillJones · May 20, 2014 3:15AM

If this were Carr product, some of you would be head over heals to buy it. At least these guys put "COPY" on their products.

The wording in the ad is deceptive however ...

pmac · May 20, 2014 4:10AM

"Claim your own copy of this rare 1878 Morgan Silver Dollar proof."
As they say, "read the fine print".

MsMorrisine · May 20, 2014 4:17AM

<< If this were Carr product, some of you would be head over heals to buy it. At least these guys put "COPY" on their products.

The wording in the ad is deceptive however ... >>

this is the rub.

it is not as much what it is, but how it is sold.

also, note the oversized date and lack of reverse image.

at least with the DC pieces, the hype isn't there and the artwork is solid.

DennisH · May 20, 2014 4:21AM

"Not Available From The U.S. Mint"
Darn.

Justacommeman · May 20, 2014 4:33AM

<< If this were Carr product, some of you would be head over heals to buy it. At least these guys put "COPY" on their products.

The wording in the ad is deceptive however ... >>

Of course you and Keets are overlooking the obvious to try to make your point.

1) Carr's would be made from a real Morgan and therefore would be real silver. The coin in this add is not.

2) Carr's would have an added mintmark to distinguish it from a "real" Morgan

3) Carr's Morgan would be of a date that was never minted

4) Carr does not have deceptive advertising. He goes out of his way to state fact from fiction.

Carry on. You guys slay me. Thanks for trying to save us from ourselves.

MJ

ms70 · May 20, 2014 5:21AM

I think the ultimate answer is a law that outright bans the reproduction of any image from a U.S. minted coin. Quite honestly I don't know
why it hasn't been like that from the beginning.

OKbustchaser · May 20, 2014 5:25AM

<< I think the ultimate answer is a law that outright bans the reproduction of any image from a U.S. minted coin. Quite honestly I don't know
why it hasn't been like that from the beginning. >>

And I think the ultimate answer is a society which is willing to taking personal responsibility for one's own actions. Quite honestly, I don't know why it ever stopped being this way.

TommyType · May 20, 2014 8:55AM

<< 

<< If this were Carr product, some of you would be head over heals to buy it. At least these guys put "COPY" on their products.

The wording in the ad is deceptive however ... >>

Of course you and Keets are overlooking the obvious to try to make your point.

1) Carr's would be made from a real Morgan and therefore would be real silver. The coin in this add is not.

2) Carr's would have an added mintmark to distinguish it from a "real" Morgan

3) Carr's Morgan would be of a date that was never minted

4) Carr does not have deceptive advertising. He goes out of his way to state fact from fiction.

Carry on. You guys slay me. Thanks for trying to save us from ourselves.

MJ >>

Think you missed the point. And all of your bullets are either acknowledged, or irrelevant.

I think the point is, (at least as I see the point), that IF the MoonLight Mint issues are not a problem for collectors, then the Bradford Mint issues shouldn't be a problem either. Alternately, if you see one as a problem, the other should be a problem as well.

Problems with the shady advertisments, however, could be treated as separate issue entirely....

Weiss · May 20, 2014 9:09AM

<< "Claim your own copy of this rare 1878 Morgan Silver Dollar proof."
As they say, "read the fine print". >>

In this text, the word "copy" can easily be interpreted correctly to mean "example" or "specimen", as in "Claim your own specimen of this rare 1878 Morgan Silver Dollar proof".

cop·y [kop-ee]
noun, plural cop·ies
1. an imitation, reproduction, or transcript of an original: a copy of a famous painting.
2. one of the various examples or specimens of the same book, engraving, or the like.

mudskippie · May 20, 2014 9:32AM

<< 

1) Carr's would be made from a real Morgan and therefore would be real silver.

2) Carr's would have an added mintmark to distinguish it from a "real" Morgan

3) Carr's Morgan would be of a date that was never minted

4) Carr does not have deceptive advertising. He goes out of his way to state fact from fiction.

>>

And of course, they have the ability to do/apply all of the above to their current offerings IF they wanted to! Perhaps, you guys should suggest that they do just that PLUS remove the word COPY (should there be one) on the reverse so that their products would be more acceptable to your taste!

Justacommeman · May 20, 2014 10:26AM

<< 

<< 

<< If this were Carr product, some of you would be head over heals to buy it. At least these guys put "COPY" on their products.

The wording in the ad is deceptive however ... >>

Of course you and Keets are overlooking the obvious to try to make your point.

1) Carr's would be made from a real Morgan and therefore would be real silver. The coin in this add is not.

2) Carr's would have an added mintmark to distinguish it from a "real" Morgan

3) Carr's Morgan would be of a date that was never minted

4) Carr does not have deceptive advertising. He goes out of his way to state fact from fiction.

Carry on. You guys slay me. Thanks for trying to save us from ourselves.

MJ >>

Think you missed the point. And all of your bullets are either acknowledged, or irrelevant.

I think the point is, (at least as I see the point), that IF the MoonLight Mint issues are not a problem for collectors, then the Bradford Mint issues shouldn't be a problem either. Alternately, if you see one as a problem, the other should be a problem as well.

Problems with the shady advertisments, however, could be treated as separate issue entirely.... >>

No, not really. Actually, I think you missed my point. I will speak for myself and not on the behalf of all collectors. The Bradford Mint's ad is deceptive. I also wouldn't an actual copy of any coin that actually exists. I also wouldn't want to own anything that has "copy" stamped on it. I also wouldn't want to own a coin that has no precious metal element to it whether it be silver or gold.

MJ

Many were minted...so few remain

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