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  • Hopefully someone with a large amount of these can make a list of the variations.

    My new website www.lowgradegems.com


    Tim
  • For some odd reason I am finding in all the Walmart blasters the last 2 cards of each pack are like bent in the opposite direction and causing what looks like stretchmarks on the front of the card. There were a few that were really bad that i just threw away.
    About 10 blasters in and still no "hot" blaster with purple refractors. Must be 1 per case just like hobby.
    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.
  • jmmiller777jmmiller777 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Prolly 25 Jumbos, 5 Blasters, no purples.
    CURRENT PROJECTS IN WORK:
    To be honest, no direction, but...
    1966-69 Topps EX+
    1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9
    All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
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  • 86nova86nova Posts: 187 ✭✭

    In 2013, the "In Action" cards, those could be found rarely with the Venz. back. Was wondering if anyone has a 2014

    "Action Variation" with a gray/black back? I , personally, have never seen one, and was curious if they were out

    there and I had just missed it. Craig in Ohio
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭


    So far I have only found one black back (out of a jumbo pack).

    I see Topps on-line is selling retail boxes (73.00) and blasters (20.00) direct.

    They probably don't contain any "color" variations cards, which would be a downside to buying direct.

    Also, wonder if the retail boxes resemble the same mix as hobby (minus the box topper), with one relic or auto per box and the same ratio of SPs and inserts.


  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭


    From Topps On-line Retail Box Description: I guess the Checklist card is different, they are missing in hobby, right? Doesn't look like any guarantee per box.

    SKU: FGC000751


    1965 comes alive in the upcoming Topps Heritage Baseball! Topps Heritage captures the best current and past MLB players in the 1965 Topps design. In this year's edition, we have added new inserts, variations and buybacks that celebrate the key events from 1965. Of course, we will also have the Real One Autographs and Clubhouse Collection Relics that are staples of Heritage Baseball. 500 card base set that includes error cards and throwback uniform variations for a fun chase. Look for two Chrome parallels a Refractor and a Black Chrome set as random inserts. Also scarce black back version of the base cards provide a third level of chase. Randomly inserted mini cards in the 1965 design are also part of this series for 2014.

    Each pack contains nine (9) 2014 Topps Heritage Baseball Cards

    A Checklist Card will be inserted into every 8th Pack as an additional Card
    9 cards per pack, 24 packs per box

    Autographs and Relics
    Real one autographs - Retired and active players.
    Real One Special Edition Signed in Red ink. #'d to 65.
    Clubhouse Collection Autograph Relics - Numbered to 25.
    Flashbacks Autographed Relics - Numbered to 25.
    1965 Cut Signatures 1 of 1

    Relic Cards
    Clubhouse Collection - Single uniform and bat relic cards of active stars.
    Clubhouse Collection Gold Parallel #'d to 99.
    Clubhouse Collection Dual Relic - Dual uniform and bat relic cards featuring a player from 1965 matched with a current player from the same franchise. Numbered to 65.
    Clubhouse Collection Triple Relic - Numbered to 25. New for 2014!
    Clubhouse Collection Quad Relic - Numbered to 10. New for 2014!
    Book Cards Includes a jumbo patch, bat knob or bat plate in a book card. #'d 1 of 1.
  • So I'm seeing prices everywhere. What's a fair, typical price for blaster vs hobby vs retail, walmart box?
    Or should I wait till it dies down?

    Because I may just buy online.
    Thx
  • DoctorKDoctorK Posts: 868 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So I'm seeing prices everywhere. What's a fair, typical price for blaster vs hobby vs retail, walmart box?
    Or should I wait till it dies down?

    Because I may just buy online.
    Thx >>



    Blasters at Walmart or Target typically run 19.99 plus tax.
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    I saw boxes for under $70 recently but can't remember where........since I don't collect all the subsets, parallels, ssp's, etc I try to get the boxes witht he most cards in them pricewise and believe the wax or retail is best
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭


    For me, I would use $3.04 per pack as a baseline. (used to be $2.99)

    The retail box (24* 3.04)= $72.96.

    Blasters (or what Topps call "Value Boxes") are $19.99 for [7 packs (+ a "bonus pack") or 8 packs]. Which equates to $2.50 per pack.

    Retail prices in the big chains are locked, they can't vary.

    Hobby distributors can use the market, and throw out phrases like "market price" to charge whatever they want.

  • I was at Target today and saw a blaster and picked one up. This will be the first wax I have opened since 1996. The scans below are pack # 1. I was fairly impressed by the quality for Topps, most cards are centered and no print dots or blemishes.

    I got a NAP-YD Darvish See scan below. #21 Jon Jay, #122 Tyler Chatwood, #337 Jimmy Rollins, #354 Mariners Rookie Stars Taijuan Walker / James Paxton, #358 Vernon Wells, #368 Rookie Stars Matt Davidson / Chris Owings, #370 Matt Kemp, #424 Zack Wheeler




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  • Bought my fourth blaster of the year. This one was from Walmart again. Here are the results:

    Base -- 64 cards ( I got a Trout which is the only base card I care about)

    Inserts -- 4 cards (Ernie Banks FB, Gibson/Wainwright TN, Carlos Gomez NAP, Nolan Ryan 1st Draft)

    SPs -- 3 cards (444 Yu Darvish, 492 Jordan Zimmermann, 500 Miguel Cabrera)

    Blue SP -- 300 Clayton Kershaw

    Nothing to write home about with my fourth blaster. Not sure if I will do another one.

    Thanks!

    Craig from Texas
  • How is this for a trade offer?

    I will trade my common SP cards for #250 Mike Trout base cards on a one for one basis.

    That means, if you have 20 #250 Mike Trouts, I will trade you 20 common SPs.

    PM me if interested.

    Thanks!

    Craig from Texas
  • One hobby box, 10 blasters, 4 jumbo packs later and....
    I have not pulled a single #250 Mike Trout!! Didn't know a fresh water fish could be a white whale.

    But on the bright side I have 9 of #22 A.J. Ellis and 8 of #235 Kevin Gregg.
    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.
  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭✭
    List is updated.

    Need to Trade, Buy, and Sell:

    SP Needs: 426, 427x2, 430x2, 439, 441x2, 443, 448, 449, 452, 454, 456x2, 461x2, 482, 490, 494


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    SP Available: 431, 436, 440, 442, 446, 451, 455, 464, 470, 476x2, 478x2, 479x3, 484x2, 485x2, 486x5, 487, 493x3, 495, 496, 499x4

    SP Action Pose available: 140x2, 437, 461

    Target Red Available: 53x2, 78, 260, 330x2, 433, 437, 446x2, 458, 464, 470

    Relics Available: Pettitte, Bruce, Teheran, Posey, Stubbs, Alonso, Perez, Jones

    Refractors Available XXX/565: 43, 60x2, 160, 213, 300, 400, 441, 493, 494, 499

    Chrome Available XXX/999: 100, 260, 330, 354, 370, 400, 430, 431, 439, 445, 468, 470, 472, 475, 480, 499

    Minis Available XXX/100: Buchholz, Sabathia

    Black Back Available: #252 Uggla

    Black Border Chrome Available: #470 Strasburg 45/65

    Purple Chrome Available: 20, 30, 73, 84, 84, 148, 243, 250, 260, 275, 320, 330, 330, 350, 354, 427, 427, 435, 435, 437, 442, 445, 446, 449, 449, 451, 451, 453, 454, 454, 459, 461, 461, 467, 467, 469, 470, 470, 474, 475, 479, 491, 493, 493, 494, 497
  • Got my first Target box. Is this called a blaster or hobby box? Has 8 packs. Can't find the odds on the box...but how rare is a "game used memorabilia" card? Pulled one. And a red border. Otherwise nothing too exciting. Is this what i should be buying!
  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭✭
    It's a Blaster box.
    Red border is 1:8 packs. So there should be one per box.
    Relic is 1:69, not very rare, and in most cases not real valuable, but better than nothing.

    Hobby boxes have the best odds for the bigger hits. They are available from Card Dealers, Shops, Shows, Online etc., anything in Target, Wal-Mart is a retail box, and loose packs should be avaioded as they are more than likely thumbed through. A hobby box is 24 packs and can be found in the $65-$75 range. A sealed hobby box comes with a box topper too, either an advertising panel of 3 cards, a 1965 Topps card with a gold stamp on it (buyback), or a numbered insert such as the 1965 embrossed style that can be seem earlier in this thread.
  • So game used patch is a relic? Ok. Thx

    Got a chrome in the second box (or refractor) who knows. And a trout new age performer. Eh.

    So what other boxes are left that may give me bigger hits? A hobby box? Cause at $20 blaster each this could take forever other than a base set.

    Where are retail and jumbo boxes sold? Didnt see an retail. Mick says retail is about $70. Is this where the purple and more valuable hits are?
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭


    I have only found Jumbo packs and Blasters in retail (Wal-Mart & Target).

    The retail boxes for sale I saw at Topps on-line:


    Topps Heritage On Line

  • I'd be interested to know if there really are checklist cards as indicated in the description for a retail box on Topps.com.

    Craig from Texas
  • BLISTERS DO EXIST!!!

    My Target finally got them in today.

    love those black border paper cards!
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle


  • << <i>Black border paper cards? >>



    Absolutely!

    since 2011 Topps Heritage Blister Packs have been sold at Target. Each Blister contains a 3-card pack of Black Border Paper Heritage Cards. 100 cards in the set, mirroring the Chrome release
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • Forgot about those! I remember there being lots of confusion on eBay with buyers thinking that those cards were limited to /63 copies (in 2012).

    Craig from Texas


  • << <i>

    << <i>Black border paper cards? >>



    Absolutely!

    since 2011 Topps Heritage Blister Packs have been sold at Target. Each Blister contains a 3-card pack of Black Border Paper Heritage Cards. 100 cards in the set, mirroring the Chrome release >>



    For the life of me, I can't picture one, and can't recall one on the checklist. Mind posting a pic?
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  • << <i>For the life of me, I can't picture one, and can't recall one on the checklist. Mind posting a pic? >>



    Sure thing.

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    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭✭
    Never seen those here in my Targets, gotta go look today.

    SP Needs: 426, 439, 449, 452, 482

    SP Available: 431, 436, 440, 442, 446, 455, 476x2, 478x2, 479x3, 484x2, 485x2, 486x5, 487, 493x3, 495, 496, 499x4

    Action Pose available: 140x2, 437, 461

    Target Red Available: 53x2, 78, 260, 330x2, 437, 446x2, 458, 464, 470

    Relics Available: Pettitte, Bruce, Teheran, Posey, Stubbs, Alonso, Perez, Jones

    Refractors Available XXX/565: 43, 60x2, 160, 213, 300, 400, 441, 493, 494, 499

    Chrome Available XXX/999: 100, 260, 330, 354, 370, 400, 430, 431, 468, 470, 472, 475, 480, 499

    Minis Available XXX/100: Buchholz, Sabathia

    Black Back Available: #252 Uggla

    Black Border Chrome Available: #470 Strasburg 45/65


    Purple Chrome Available: 20, 30, 73, 84, 84, 148, 243, 260, 275, 320, 330, 330, 350, 354, 427, 427, 435, 435, 437, 442, 445, 446, 449, 449, 451, 451, 453, 454, 454, 459, 461, 461, 467, 467, 469, 470, 470, 474, 475, 479, 491, 493, 493, 494, 497
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are the odds on those blisters similar to blasters or is it even harder to get a 'hit'?
  • What's the going price for the blister pack?

    By the way, if anyone has any BASE Trouts, I'm trading SPs for them on a one for one basis. Just send me a PM.

    Craig from Texas
  • Same odds as blasters. SRP is $9.49
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Same odds as blasters. SRP is $9.49 >>


    So basically for a buck more you get 2 extra packs w/a blaster vs. 2 blisters. No thanks, though the black border cards do look sharp.
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭


    Value wise, it's blasters. Or as Topps calls them "Value Boxes". Three blasters = a retail box, for $60.00.

    The trade off is the contents. Each 8-pack box gets you a couple of inserts and a couple of SPs and one color variation. There is no guarantee of a "hit" when you purchase 3 boxes.

    I guess the three black-border cards are the draw for the blister. Their value being the price difference. And I think the Blister is suppose to deter "pack searchers" in the retail landscape.

    I always went for Blasters over packs as well in retail.



  • The draw for the Blisters is 100% the black bordered cards. its a 100 card set and in the past, has been difficult to put together because pretty much the 3-card black packs run in sequence. in 2011 and 2012 i opened many many blisters lol
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The draw for the Blisters is 100% the black bordered cards. its a 100 card set and in the past, has been difficult to put together because pretty much the 3-card black packs run in sequence. in 2011 and 2012 i opened many many blisters lol >>



    The previous years the black border was strictly blister packs?

    I had a couple cello-type three card packs but I couldn't remember where I got them from, I guess that would be the only way.

    So, if you wanted to put the three color variations sets together through retail packs, you would spend a minimum of $500 at Target buying 25 Blasters, getting 25 red borders (no doubles), another $500 at Wal-Mart for the blue, and apparently at a minimum 34 blister packs for $322.66.

    Almost the cost of two Hobby cases (pre-sale).

    I guess I need to get another job...... image
  • Or.....you can wait for people like me that will buy blisters and trade those black bordered inserts for #250 Trout. :0)

    Craig from Texas
  • Visited five Targets here locally in North Texas; found three blisters at one, came up empty at the rest. Did pull a Black Border Jeter, so that made the trip worthwhile. Is it just me, or is Target slower than usual in getting the Heritage on the shelves?

    Brad


  • << <i>Visited five Targets here locally in North Texas; found three blisters at one, came up empty at the rest. Did pull a Black Border Jeter, so that made the trip worthwhile. Is it just me, or is Target slower than usual in getting the Heritage on the shelves?

    Brad >>



    I have found it to be the PS3 of Topps Heritage and even more so in N Tx. After picking up 4 blasters finally at Target, I thought I was finished with hunting stuff down at Target. Will have to try the one at park & tollway tonight.
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  • OK. Picked up 2 blister packs and a blaster, just because I want to be disappointed. Anyway, it'll give me an excuse to pick up 2 more blisters later on. Will report results this weekend…learn something new all the time with Heritage.
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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 8,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it was too easy it would'nt be so much fun or rewarding.image
    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • Here are the 2 Blister bust results. You'll get 1 SP & 1 Insert (I got a then & now in each pack), plus the 3 black borders. But I was pleasantly surprised with the hits. That's a black back, in one and the other contained a pujols refractor & blue ink auto. Stay tuned. I noticed something in the packaging, and I'm going to test my theory later on today, if I can finish up landscaping the front any time soon. I will trade my black borders for any yankees black borders for those picking up blisters.


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  • Wow, that out of 2 blisters? That has more pull than a blaster with 2 less packs.
    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Value wise, it's blasters. Or as Topps calls them "Value Boxes". Three blasters = a retail box, for $60.00.

    The trade off is the contents. Each 8-pack box gets you a couple of inserts and a couple of SPs and one color variation. There is no guarantee of a "hit" when you purchase 3 boxes.

    I guess the three black-border cards are the draw for the blister. Their value being the price difference. And I think the Blister is suppose to deter "pack searchers" in the retail landscape.

    I always went for Blasters over packs as well in retail. >>





    EDIT that to say Blasters are a great value for commons and base cards....... I think I have to re-consider Blasters especially when I no longer need base (1-425), $20 for a color variation seems excessive.

    Have to hunt down some Blister packs...... image
  • How many cards in the black border set? Do they have the same # as the regular cards?
    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.
  • I picked up a couple of packs of 2014 Heritage (along with some 2010 Heritage they had) hoping to pull some Brewers. Except for 2 Carlos Gomez NAPs, did not have any luck in that regard.

    Everything below is for trade- looking for Brewers from this set or any Ryan Braun cards I need (I am especially looking for Braun chromes or parallels from 2014 Heritage)
    thanks

    For Trade:
    2014 Topps Heritage Chrome #170 Justin Upton #316/999
    2014 Topps Heritage NAP #CG Carlos Gomez
    2014 Topps Heritage #435 Andrelton Simmons SP
    2014 Topps Heritage #446 Wil Myers SP

    Picture of SPs/ Inserts

    2014 Topps Heritage Base
    #10 Clayton Kershaw/Jordan Zimmermann/Adam Wainwright
    #18 Felix Doubront
    #32 Bruce Bochy MG
    #40 Carl Crawford
    #104 Joey Butler RC/Jim Adduci RC
    #116 Kolten Wong RC/Audry Perez RC
    #137 Anthony Gose
    #150A Manny Machado
    #153 Joe Kelly
    #165 Gerardo Parra
    #178 Jose Quintana
    #184 Kole Calhoun
    #198A Eric Hosmer
    #206 John Lackey
    #238 Josh Beckett
    #264 Fernando Rodney
    #294 David Robertson
    #308 Travis d'Arnaud RC/Wilmer Flores RC
    #311 Brandon Morrow
    #312 Munenori Kawasaki
    #317 Neil Walker
    #322 Brandon Crawford
    #327 D.J. LeMahieu
    #341 Glen Perkins
    #359 Huston Street
    #363 Norichika Aoki
    #381 Dustin Ackley
    #392 Travis Wood
    #395 Brian McCann
    #410 J.J. Hardy
    #414 Robin Ventura MG
    #421 Kevin Pillar RC/Ryan Goins RC

    2010 Topps Heritage #34 Fausto Carmona
    2010 Topps Heritage #106 Scott Hairston
    2010 Topps Heritage #121 John Lackey
    2010 Topps Heritage #163 Jeff Mathis
    2010 Topps Heritage #168 Chris Coghlan
    2010 Topps Heritage #193a Daisuke Matsuzaka
    2010 Topps Heritage #194 Joey Votto
    2010 Topps Heritage #205 Edwin Jackson
    2010 Topps Heritage #210 Andre Ethier
    2010 Topps Heritage #253 Cliff Lee
    2010 Topps Heritage #304 Alex Gordon
    2010 Topps Heritage #381 Mike Lowell
    2010 Topps Heritage #386 Tim Wakefield
    2010 Topps Heritage #390 Matt LaPorta
  • Just found one blister at Target....
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    Here's the rip...
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    Actually the same number of SPs I normally get in a blaster....plus the black borders are selling for around $3 each on the bay, so there is the value of the blister right there. Still wondering how many cards are in the black border set, that will dictate if I will try to complete it or not.

    Check this out
    Mike Trout Black Border on top in Unopened Pack $42.45
    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Black border paper cards? >>



    Absolutely!

    since 2011 Topps Heritage Blister Packs have been sold at Target. Each Blister contains a 3-card pack of Black Border Paper Heritage Cards. 100 cards in the set, mirroring the Chrome release >>



    Mirroring the chrome set.....
  • Thanks, Mick! Ouch, thats a lot of cards. If I can't find more blisters the ones I do have might become trade bait.
    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.
  • I opened a blaster from wal mart this morning. I pulled the last pack and it was real thick so I though it might be one of those book cards but it turned out to be 13 cards in one pack. I've opened maybe 7-8 blasters between this year and last and never seen a pack with more than 9 cards in it. I also hit the purple refractor box this year like last, and pulled max scherzer in both years. Lol

    My new website www.lowgradegems.com


    Tim
  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    How many cards in the black border set? Do they have the same # as the regular cards?


    I am sure there will be a 100 cards but not sure about the numbers.
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