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Libertas Americana, PCGS MS65RED!

cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
Looking through the online population reports, I came upon a listing for a Libertas Americana graded MS65RD. Has anyone seen any images of this?

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looking forward to seeing this picture, shovel on her shoulder and all image

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey, just calling a spade a spade!

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    it really seems like it has been posted here in the past year, probably sooner. (maybe from cro, maybe not?) i'll wade through the trenches of my vastly disorganized main image folder to see if i can hope to stumble across what i am thinking of. sounds easier than searching the forum archives right now. a lot less typing and clicking. ><

    well turns out my dbase isn't as disorganized as i thought but i turned up nada on any red unc L.A. medals.
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  • DaveWcoinsDaveWcoins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Looking through the online population reports, I came upon a listing for a Libertas Americana graded MS65RD. Has anyone seen any images of this? >>



    I am not aware of such a specimen.

    It seems extreeeeemly unlikely. I would bet it is a typo in the pop report.
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  • indeetlibindeetlib Posts: 607 ✭✭
    That would be amazing - I can't recall seeing one with even a little red!

    But I agree it's most likely a typo, and I can't seem to find the listing for a Red example in the population report or on Coinfacts…do you have a link?
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know the piece well. It came out of London about four months ago.

    Edited to say that I think the piece is only barely "RD", but it could easily have graded higher.
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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I know the piece well. It came out of London about four months ago.

    Edited to say that I think the piece is only barely "RD", but it could easily have graded higher. >>



    Must be an amazing piece. I've thought about Numismatists being around in England before we produced our first coin here in the U.S.. It's the same feeling you get when you visit Europe and realize how
    new our society and architecture is here.
    Can someone educate me on the significance of the Libertas medal? Why was it produced? For what reason? US Mint? Thanks
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    April Fools!?!

    Or can it be confirmed in the Pops?
  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was present when the piece was submitted at the Las Vegas Invitational Show in February, and I understand it was just recently returned from the grading room.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>April Fools!?!

    Or can it be confirmed in the Pops? >>



    i am seriously wondering if the pops for these types of high-end numismatic items are reliable enough to use. i've seen many coins "kept" out of the pops and/or they were sent ATS and then back to pcgs again. the 1913 lib 5c are a pretty good example of this.

    then there is that ms68rd 1c v&b that is not in the pops but is confirmed as being in a pcgs holder?
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  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>April Fools!?!

    Or can it be confirmed in the Pops? >>



    Well, as the day winds down on April 1st, I should clear up a few things. image
















    I was the one that submitted the piece at the PCGS Las Vegas Invitational Show in February, and I have been watching for its appearance in the Pop Reports to show up. It does now appear, both in the Pop Reports and on PCGSCoinFacts. I have it back now and in hand, and I could not be more pleased! image

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    While not a 1783 original bronze striking, it is really quite striking in its own right.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cardinal, Nice centennial token! image
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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭
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    Well played, sir. Well played.





    (... and quite a nice piece to boot!)

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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭
    Neat item Cardinal.

    Kidding aside, I recall a red brown Libertas Americana medal in the numismatic exhibit in the Federal Reserve Bank in Manhattan, but they closed that display in 2012.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a very attractive specimen.... Cheers, RickO
  • indeetlibindeetlib Posts: 607 ✭✭
    That's a really cool token. Never seen that one before, but I kind of want to look for one now.

    And nice April Fools joke, but now I'm curious to see the specimen MrEureka mentioned!
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And nice April Fools joke, but now I'm curious to see the specimen MrEureka mentioned!

    Me too!
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool!
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  • giorgio11giorgio11 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well done! image

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could you show the reverse of the token as well, please.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Could you show the reverse of the token as well, please. >>



    While you waiting there's a large Pool Table on the reverse.
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  • SmEagle1795SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Could you show the reverse of the token as well, please. >>



    It's been TrueView'd so you can look up the cert.



    << <i>While you waiting there's a large Pool Table on the reverse. >>



    I assumed this was a euphemism for something. I was wrong.
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  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Could you show the reverse of the token as well, please. >>



    Here you go:

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see that the hat, while still far too small and gravity-defying (or stiff) like on the original, on this example token now the hat is more rounded, and like a woolen ski cap, it has a little button on top! Further, the pole appears continuous and straight behind the head, unlike the original, which has a hidden curve or bend behind the head, apparent when a straight edge is held up to the picture.

    Looking forward to seeing the pool table reverse

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