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If you had a coin that went from an NGC PR68 to a PCGS PR? UPDATE GRADE IN LAST POST
Casman
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PCGS PR67 CAM, then after crack and resubmission to a PCGS PR68 (no Cam)
Would you consider submitting under the new reconsideration service in an attempt to regain the CAM designation?
Would you consider submitting under the new reconsideration service in an attempt to regain the CAM designation?
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This is like asking if a pair of Aces is a winning hand. Sure if a pair of Kings is the best anyone has but will lose to 3 twos.
<< <i>Well it's your coin is it cameo or not? >>
Well, really I didn't think so the first time it went in but then again, I'm not a grader nor yet well versed with the CAM stuff. And, once it got the CAM I'd thought ya you know what, I can see it...but with 3 weeks it was upgraded a point and not a CAM.
Edit: I don't have a decent pic of the reverse but here's a terrible obverse pic...best I can do from the office...
<< <i>PCGS PR67 CAM, then after crack and resubmission to a PCGS PR68 (no Cam)
Would you consider submitting under the new reconsideration service in an attempt to regain the CAM designation? >>
Ask that it be given to the same guy who gave it a CAM before. I have to believe that a lot of these inconsistencies arise simply because the coin/s is/are seen by different graders. Do people here mentally regrade their coins every time they look at them?
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<< <i>Well it's your coin is it cameo or not? >>
I agree with Ambro in that this is the criterion I would be using to determine whether to resubmit or not.
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<< <i>Well it's your coin is it cameo or not? >>
Well, it was once!
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<< <i>making a decision without seeing the reverse is impossible >>
I'll try and grab a good shot of the reverse but not that good with pics...
Thanks for the answers thus far...
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I struck out, but at least it was fast. I didn't realize this before but there is a pic that shows with the cert but it's not a trueview.
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Eric
<< <i>From the Obv. photo I thought the Cam was iffy in the first place.
Eric >>
Can you expand on this a bit? I had it as a CAM lock based on the Obverse photo? I didn't get the chance to take a Reverse pic and if anything thought maybe the reverse was iffy.
Here's another one for comparison...and this one's a CAM67
and the PR68 coming up
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<< <i>From the Obv. photo I thought the Cam was iffy in the first place.
Eric >>
Can you expand on this a bit? I had it as a CAM lock based on the Obverse photo? I didn't get the chance to take a Reverse pic and if anything thought maybe the reverse was iffy.
Here's another one for comparison...and this one's a CAM67
and the PR68 coming up >>
Hello,
I am not Proof expert, but there appeared to me to be to a few too many breaks in the frost on the Obv. image (collar bone, hair, inside of nose etc.). See some DCAM and compare to CAM and then extrapolate a little bit down.
Eric
Eric
<< <i>here is one that looks very much like yours what do you think? How much do you have vested in this coin now? Either I am missing something or you really like this quarter.
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It looks like mine because it is mine. Do I really like it, I'm not attached at the hip, but more of lets say an experiment in grading.
Consistency is generally not a human trait.
Eric
IMHO, it is partly a combination of surface qualities, the mirrors, the whole thing and the way it meets - not just some technical % of frost. My .02
Eric
<< <i>how is it not a cameo? Play the game and resubmit. >>
+1
I agree with PCGS on the non-cam grade as the left half of the reverse just doesn't have the dark fields needed for a CAM designation; regardless of how strong the obverse is. I think you're several submissions from getting it into a 68 CAM holder...if ever.
Still a great coin...don't lose site of that just due to what's on the plastic.
<< <i>No question in my mind it's the reverse holding this back from getting a CAM. IMHO you've been market graded. A 67 CAM = PR 68 price wise...or approximately so they either withhold the CAM, and give the higher grade or give you the grade and not the designation. >>
I agree, and I see this as the classic case of lower grade + designation or higher grade + no designation.