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Safe Crack For Dummy Vol 2 PROTECT YOUR FRONT DOOR

ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
you may have seen the recent post about safes and how easy they are to get into....but its your front door that is your 1st defense....

Its amazing but my friend the local locksmith can open most front doors in under 45 seconds..... laughable but true....
his recommendation is change your door locks to pick resistant bump resistant like Abloy Protec(2), BiLock NG, and EVVA MCS

dont wait til you are robbed....this week, change your locks.....thank me later
Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if you use your garage door opener as a lock, but leave the door to the inside unlocked.... that's another mistake.

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I doubt most burglars would enter through a locked front door. Back door, slider, window or any other
    such entrance would be preferred. I'm on the board in my community and over the last 5 years we have
    had about 11 burglaries and none were through a front door. Not saying it does not happen but usually
    it's too out in the open, not what the thieves like.

    PS: none were ever caught. Also, I'm in a normal city community of single family homes and condos. If
    you live in another environment, like out in the country, the front door may be fair game.

    So, take the advice of the OP and think about your home, and if you wanted to break into it what would
    you do? Front door, back door, side window?

    Yep, OP is correct and it's worth the effort to be prepared.

    bob
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I doubt most burglars would enter through a locked front door. Back door, slider, window or any other
    such entrance would be preferred. I'm on the board in my community and over the last 5 years we have
    had about 11 burglaries and none were through a front door. Not saying it does not happen but usually
    it's too out in the open, not what the thieves like.

    PS: none were ever caught. Also, I'm in a normal city community of single family homes and condos. If
    you live in another environment, like out in the country, the front door may be fair game.

    So, take the advice of the OP and think about your home, and if you wanted to break into it what would
    you do? Front door, back door, side window?

    Yep, OP is correct and it's worth the effort to be prepared.

    bob >>



    I agree.

    If you live in an urban area, I would think the front door is never broken into (except for home invasions and then you're in big trouble anyways).

    Rural area I think, would be more prone to a front door break-in.

    Good advice by the OP........Be prepared anyway and change those locks!!
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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    mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    Remember, two locks on a door are better than one, and multiple deadbolts on sliding glass doors are a must.
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    Locks do not matter if the door frame is wood and not reinforced. One good kick and you are in. I worked as a sub-contractor for many years and installed many steel frame doors with the actual door being a reinforced fiberglass. This is much harder to break in with a kick. A kick takes 2 seconds and the thief is in and out in 5 minutes unless they are new to the game and do not know what they are doing.
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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks guys, I feel really safe now.
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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks guys, I feel really safe now. >>




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    ...just a matter of time before someone posts a gun.
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    << <i>Locks do not matter if the door frame is wood and not reinforced. One good kick and you are in. I worked as a sub-contractor for many years and installed many steel frame doors with the actual door being a reinforced fiberglass. This is much harder to break in with a kick. A kick takes 2 seconds and the thief is in and out in 5 minutes unless they are new to the game and do not know what they are doing. >>



    Exactly what happened to me.
    Let's try not to get upset.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Security is a 'whole house' issue..... The OP is correct about the front door, however, windows, garage doors, cellar doors, cellar windows, sliding doors etc must ALL be secure - and yes, there are security measures for each that are reasonably priced and effective. With the internet today, there is no reason anyone should not be able to secure their home in ALL respects. Cheers, RickO
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    ColorfulcoinsColorfulcoins Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭
    Locks do nothing but keep honest people out.......somebody wants to get in, they will, high security pick-proof door lock or not......

    Safes are an ENTIRELY different matter.

    1st rule, make sure the safe is heavy enough that someone can't lift or drag it out of your house.. The empty safe better weight at least 1000 pounds.....I've seen 700 pound safes dragged thru a house before.

    2nd rule, keep your safe a well kept secret. Casual thieves are not generally capable of cracking a safe. Now someone comes prepare to crack a safe, different story....

    3rd rule: Get the right kind of safe. A security safe is different than a document/fire safe. Make sure you have the right kind for what you are storing in your safe.
    Craig
    If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
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    7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    How about adding another rule -

    4) Have a easy to find, easy to lift, 2nd DIVERSION safe with some nice bricks inside.
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    Installing roll down metal shades on all openings on your house is the only way to keep out most thief's. I have set up some interesting security measures for some friends that most of our forum members could set up and would create a very good deterrent.
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    erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I doubt most burglars would enter through a locked front door. >>



    My neighborhood is actually having multiple break ins over the last couple months with a bunch of these being through a dead bolted front door, in plain daylight, in the middle of the morning. The burglar just kicks it in. Some are happening at night too, thru the front door.
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I doubt most burglars would enter through a locked front door. >>



    My neighborhood is actually having multiple break ins over the last couple months with a bunch of these being through a dead bolted front door, in plain daylight, in the middle of the morning. The burglar just kicks it in. Some are happening at night too, thru the front door. >>


    No problemo, come on in. Have your picture taken free of charge and wait for the cops, or my armed next door neighbor, to come show you around.

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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What all this means to me is
    that unless you have the fortress setup of Ricko image (that is probably like the Adamms family vault)
    the best place for valuables is the safety deposit box
    LCoopie = Les
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    7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    SDB's definitely way to go.....all else protected by Glock
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    slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    It is very easy to have a hidden section in your house. That space under your stairs, a modified interior wall in your basement (false wall), that space where your roofline gets too low for the ceiling, etc.

    A dummy safe with some cheap stuff is a good idea but store the real valuables out of sight. All a safe does it tell the thieves where the valuables are hidden.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,761 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Thanks guys, I feel really safe now. >>




    image
    ...just a matter of time before someone posts a gun. >>

    and a 2 dogs named jesus and mr fugly
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    << <i>Locks do not matter if the door frame is wood and not reinforced. One good kick and you are in. I worked as a sub-contractor for many years and installed many steel frame doors with the actual door being a reinforced fiberglass. This is much harder to break in with a kick. A kick takes 2 seconds and the thief is in and out in 5 minutes unless they are new to the game and do not know what they are doing. >>



    A thief *almost* got into our home that way. Door was reinforced but I think three or four more kicks would have done it. Wood had started to splinter. He probably wore himself out getting as far as he did.
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    DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    I keep all my valuables in a safe deposit box. Everything else is covered by insurance. It can be inconvenient at times, but then my southern home is half a block from my SDB. Good thing they do not charge me there by the visit...LOL. Keeping more than you can afford to lose in your house is a fools errand if a professional thief wants it. Just MHO.
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    Safe deposit box is a no brainer. Not sure why anyone would keep any significantly valuable coins at home.
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
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    mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,862 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Safe deposit box is a no brainer. Not sure why anyone would keep any significantly valuable coins at home. >>




    Agree 100%.
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a strong door!
    ...but then if someone wants in they will just go through the window, wall or roof...but there are ways to make those more challenging...
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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    TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is a strong door!
    ...but then if someone wants in they will just go through the window, wall or roof...but there are ways to make those more challenging... >>



    I was searching "Crack" as in crack out, and stumbled across this thread. I just saw this video for the first time and was thoroughly entertained!!! image
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    AberlightAberlight Posts: 384 ✭✭
    Years ago when i was in a rent house with concrete slab I hid a small lock box in the return air duct. Would like to hear of a thief removing an air filter. Only SWAT would consider that and now that I state it publicly NSA.

    Seriously though I have had to kick in a door. Considering I am not a pro it took three kicks to bust the lock and deadbolt plate that was held by 1 1/2" screws. Spend the $2.00 and buy 3 1/2 -4" screws and replace your screws that hold your lock plates. Longer screws will take a battering ram. A burglar will wear themselves out trying to bust a door that has a door frame mounted by 4 screws to the support frame and while at it get the hinges re-inforced. Takes 5 minutes to pilot hole and replace.
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    SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You should see the series of locks on my front door in my apartment in Ukraine. Not just one side of the door, but also the hinge side. Not single action locks either, but double and even triple action. Break ins and armed robberies are a fact of life. Now that chaos is reigning with the replacement of the old thug government with a new thug government it will only get worse.
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    TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You should see the series of locks on my front door in my apartment in Ukraine. Not just one side of the door, but also the hinge side. Not single action locks either, but double and even triple action. Break ins and armed robberies are a fact of life. Now that chaos is reigning with the replacement of the old thug government with a new thug government it will only get worse. >>



    Ugh, my heart goes out to you! What a terrible mess!
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Locks keep honest people honest and honesty is the best policy.
    Paranoia keeps otherwise normal people enslaved, very much like addiction.
    And without help, there's no escape from that prison. So many people on drugs will take from their own loved ones. Let's face that fact.

    This is the home front

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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,029 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Have a easy to find, easy to lift, 2nd DIVERSION safe with some nice bricks inside.

    It's pretty heavy with a bunch of cents inside. I hope they pull a back muscle.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Prior planning prevents p*ss poor performance. The old adage.... prepare for the worst and you will be secure for most incidents. No SDB here.... but lots of security. Cheers, RickO
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    CoinflipCoinflip Posts: 852 ✭✭✭
    most doors can be picked with a credit card in 5 secs, front doors , look.like your just staying there and walk right in
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    FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    In the Detroit area there seems to be a trend going on where the various homeowners and such are armed and willing to
    fire on the criminals that intend to do them harm. Most of these incidents are resulting in deceased criminals. Door locks
    are all well and good but a firearm and the training, proper permits, and willingness to neutralize the threat, goes a long
    way.

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