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OT UPDATED Mauretania - see my last post - UNIQUE Ships Captain Material (for those interested)

Hey folks,

You know my fascination with the Cunard liner R.M.S. Mauretania. I just added two final items to my collection and I think I am through. I added numbers 4 and 5. These are by Turner and Lord, and with the bits by Mellier (2 and 3) I now have small samples of carving from each of the most famous rooms by the two most famous subcontractors. Only number 6 is not shown - the bookends. They are simple decking bookends with a plaque of origin. The numbers below correspond to the scan. It is not the best scan but will give a good enough idea. I hope you enjoy it image

Cunard R.M.S. Mauretania 1907- Hull No. 735 Collected C. 2000-2014

Samples of Grand Entrance, 1st Class lounge, decks, railing, porthole dog, engine blade, propellers
4 woods & 3 metals

1) Brass turbine blade – engine blade, by The Wallsend Slipway & Engineering Company, Ltd., Wallsend, 1907, removed from rotor and engraved 1935
2) Mahogany 1st Class Lounge ceiling molding segment – Greek key, egg and dart motifs, by Ch. Mellier and Co., Abermarle Street, London, 1907, removed from lounge 1935
3) Mahogany 1st Class lounge capital famous rams head swag fragment - by Ch. Mellier and Co., Abermarle Street, London, removed from lounge 1935 (from pilaster I sold to Discovery Museum in UK) gift from owner
4) Walnut Grand Entrance capital carving section – by Messrs. W. Turner & Lord and Co., London, complete original section from composite capital, removed from entrance 1935
5) Walnut carving fragment 1st class Entrance (perhaps detailing from a wall) - by Messrs. W. Turner & Lord and Co., London, removed from entrance 1935
6) Yellow pine decking bookends – crafted by Hughes Bolckow Shipbreaking Company, Blythe, Northumberland, with plaque, made during scrapping 1935/36
7) Teak railing thermometer – crafted by Hughes Bolckow Shipbreaking Company, Blythe, Northumberland, with plaque, made during scrapping 1935/36
8) Teak and Manganese bronze ash tray – ships decking and propeller metal, crafted by Hughes Bolckow Shipbreaking Company, Blythe, Northumberland, made during scrapping, with screened inset aluminum plaque and engraved 1935
9) Admiralty Brass porthole dog – by Thomas Utley & Company, Brassfounders of Stoneycroft, Liverpool, removed from Boat Deck and engraved 1935
10) White cast metal waterline model with wooden base - C. 1914, good quality and detail, with plaque, unknown maker, pre WW1

Lusitania sunk May 7, 1915: Steel/rust fragment from hull/watertight door hand gear, recovered off Old Head of Kinsale in 1982 by Oceaneering International (a legal fragment with papers; since 1994 protected by Heritage Order - so no more salvage coming up)

All uncleaned, above average condition (apart from C, 2000 cuts to molding length).
To view the entire image at one just right click and hit "view image". You can then click again for a larger view still. Back key get you back.

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R.M.S. Mauretania Artifact Collection © EKL 2014

Here she is in a very rare photo taken just near her stern on a most special day:

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Pulling Away, 2:20 pm, October 22nd, 1907, leaving the Swan Hunter Yards for delivery trip
Heading along Tyne River for North Shields and the open sea to head north, up and over to Liverpool
Unpublished unique candid photographic matte finish print, dated in pencil
Currently on display at her birthplace, Wallsend-on-Tyne
© EKL Collection 2014/Restored digital file © EKL


Comments

  • CoinCastCoinCast Posts: 511 ✭✭✭
    Very cool, a fun off topic collection!

    Partner @Gold Hill Coin

  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    That's pretty cool.
  • Thanks for the nice words image

    Eric
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Way cool- congrats on a great collection. I have a couple of Mauretania teak decking pieces- the common match barrel and a toothpick holder. I also have paper from a single 1925 voyage, including the embarkation notice, deck chair stubs, menu, programme, etc., and some original photos.
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.


  • << <i>Way cool- congrats on a great collection. I have a couple of Mauretania teak decking pieces- the common match barrel and a toothpick holder. I also have paper from a single 1925 voyage, including the embarkation notice, deck chair stubs, menu, programme, etc., and some original photos. >>



    That sounds very interesting - on board paper can be very scarce. The deckchair ticket has its envelope? Wine receipts and Barber Shop receipts are sought. Embarkation notices are very hard to find. Of course, original photographs, interiors especially, are of interest and possibly value. Thanks!

    Eric
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super cool accomplishment!
    Congratulations and rhanks for sharing.image

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

  • Thank you. I tried very hard to get as many samples of as many different materials as I could. Decking you walked on, railing you leaned on, ceiling molding and capitals you looked at, an engine blade and some of the props that those millions of turbine blades turned. All that remains is glass - although 20 tons of plate glass was removed from the skylights alone and re-purposed in 1935 during scrapping, the chances of finding anything are remote at best as it certainly went to its new home with no fanfare. I have never seen a smaller window or the like for offer although I do know where there are some. The rusted Lusitania fragment appears not much - but very little of her actual hull steel is in private hands comparatively. People collect cargo - pocket watch cases, Lord Kitchener spoons and the like. Since the Heritage order in I believe 1974, there will be nothing else recovered.

    Best wishes and glad you enjoyed,
    Eric
  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't particularly collect ocean liner items, but I do have a 1923 itinerary of Mauretania's voyage to the Mediterranean, I believe the ship was chartered for this cruise. Reading the itinerary was the best part, I would've loved to have taken that trip.
  • That sounds cool. I am guessing The American Express Cruise?

    Eric
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really interesting items....thanks..... Cheers, RickO
  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    EXCELLENT collection!! image

    Clearly a lot of time and effort went into finding all these neat items. There's definitely a lot of romance associated with the grand old ocean liners. I bet there were some neat unknown stories associated with what was going on belowdecks on the ship. Everything is neat, but I particularly like the turbine blade. Good job!!
  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thats so Cool

    Steve
    Promote the Hobby
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    I'm curious - what attracted you to the Mauretania?
    Me at the Springfield coin show:
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    60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep, American Express.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,963 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Way cool- congrats on a great collection. I have a couple of Mauretania teak decking pieces- the common match barrel and a toothpick holder. I also have paper from a single 1925 voyage, including the embarkation notice, deck chair stubs, menu, programme, etc., and some original photos. >>



    That sounds very interesting - on board paper can be very scarce. The deckchair ticket has its envelope? Wine receipts and Barber Shop receipts are sought. Embarkation notices are very hard to find. Of course, original photographs, interiors especially, are of interest and possibly value. Thanks!

    Eric >>



    I actually have a wine receipt from the Lusitania, but not from Mauretania. No envelope for the deck chair stubs unfortunately. No interior photos, but I do have one taken from the deck, showing the bow and some of the bollards. The exterior photos I have is when she was no longer sailing the Atlantic, and was painted white, shortly before she went to the breakers.

    Edited to add- nothing as cool as what you posted, though image.
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • Hi Folks image

    Thanks again to all for the many kind words on my collection. I am glad so many liked this "OT" thread. Appreciated Ricko, and Sy - I knew you'd...gravitate ( image ) to the engine blade. Droopyd - I collected this ship out because of its supreme speed (held the record for 22 consecutive years), and because of her sterling war service, long life and beautiful interiors. Much better built than a certain other vessel from the era. RE Ernie - those American Express cruises were very popular. And yes Cmerlo1, that is an exciting part of her career when she was painted white. She was also light green in areas - to reduce the sun's glare in the afternoon. I have may photographs of her in white - she was very beautiful.

    Best wishes,
    Eric
  • Hi All,

    For those interested, an update of material. This is a rather necessary sub-collection of items related to the first commander of the Cunard express greyhound Mauretania detailed in the post above. These are items related to Captain John Pritchard (1845-1922). Commodore title bestowed 1909 (honorary) - he did not have the credentials. First to navigate the Ambrose Chanel in NY Harbor (1907). Pritchard rescued many in a long and distinguished career. Legend has it he himself ventured to the fore-peak of the Mauretania during dangerous and heavy seas to lash down her dangerously potentially destructive loose 20 ton spare anchor during the extremely violent November storm encountered on her maiden voyage to New York (Nov. 1907). I hope you all enjoy image - Eric

    Below:

    A true full-size 4 page 1906 true ships log abstract from the Cunard Carmania, Pritchard's command before taking Mauretania - but also the trial ship for the turbines that would drive the Mauretania, so rather important.
    This log bears several signatures of Pritchard - a detail of one is shown along with the Chief Engineer. A small unique & unpublished snapshot of this liner Carmania is seem lower left. In the middle is a private unpublished Official Cunard portrait of Captain Pritchard taken and sent to family at the time he took command of the Mauretania in late 1907 (message is family related and mentions his appointment to the Mauretania; in Welsh, as it should be). Upper right is a photo of Captain Pritchard on the port bridge wing cab during Mauretania's formal & final trials, November 1907, Skelmorlie. Her maiden voyage would be on November 16th. On the return voyage despite initial fog, she captured the western speed record which she held for...22 years! In 1931, for a stretch of 105 miles I believe, she exceed 32 knots!!!

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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat addition! image Logs are Very interesting items. My Dad used to collect them. In the old days (pre 1850) the owners of the ship would hire three times the number of the crew needed for longer voyages, because ~ 2/3 would die by the end of the voyage.
  • Hi Sy,

    I was hoping you'd appreciate this stuff stuff :-) Thanks. The good captains daughter just died recently I believe.
    Will keep you posted of any additions.

    Eric image
  • tough crowd image

    Eric

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