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VeepVeep Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭✭
Got a call from a bank president who knows that I am a numismatist. He had a customer who came in and deposited two $1,000 bills and a $500. The kid-teller took them as a normal deposit but mentioned to the president what had happened. I got the call to come and look and told the president that they were worth somewhere around $4,300. He had the customer come back to the bank where I told the customer the value. He said that his wife had been after him for a long time to get them out of the house and deposited in the bank. He was VERY grateful to the bank for helping him out as they reversed his deposit and he took them back home, probably to blame his wife for the "close call."
"Let me tell ya Bud, you can buy junk anytime!"

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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well done!
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice. Surprised the teller took them in the first place without calling supervisors.

    If I didn't know what they were, I wouldn't take them--especially knowing I'd be out the money and probably a job for depositing fakes.

    If I did know what they were, I'd have let the customer know and/or have bought them from the till myself. The bank president would never have know about it.
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    Very nice of you to tell them the true value of the notes.
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
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  • GritsManGritsMan Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭
    Very cool story. Any idea if they'd been in the family the whole time?
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  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    If i'm not mistaken, treasury guidelines require banks to retire these notes when received.

    So - IMO - a very grey area once taken in by the bank......

    but good for the depositor.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 29,868 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If i'm not mistaken, treasury guidelines require banks to retire these notes when received.

    So - IMO - a very grey area once taken in by the bank......

    but good for the depositor. >>



    I believe you're right but like 99.99% of the laws on the books this
    one probably isn't enforced any longer. Too few come into the banks
    for it to be any concern to anyone and the law was written before the
    notes had numismatic value. Its intent was largely to get rid of old
    stockpiles of cash, and particularly, large notes.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • Love hearing the stories of people doing the right thing. image
    Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    jeff
  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Its intent was largely to get rid of old stockpiles of cash >>



    I thought mainly because of the war on organized crimes and drug trade, easier to pile $1m is $1000's in a briefcase, rather than 100's.

    I don't think this is an ignored rule.
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am surprised the teller would take them in a deposit without a manager's approval.

    And yes there are laws on the books about turning them into the Fed, but most tellers these days have never seen a larger denomination bill and likely never will. Back in January I bought up 85 $5 bills that were saved up until 1948 by the depositors husband, the bank took them in and then sat on them because the tellers didn't want to give them out due to their being old and different looking - and they didn't know they could send them to the Fed. They had held onto the notes for nearly 2 years when I was asking if they had anything like that in their vault!

    Just the other day I got a Series 1953 $5 SC that had come in with a commercial deposit to my financial institution.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 29,868 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Its intent was largely to get rid of old stockpiles of cash >>



    I thought mainly because of the war on organized crimes and drug trade, easier to pile $1m is $1000's in a briefcase, rather than 100's.

    I don't think this is an ignored rule. >>



    Yes. The large bills were recalled ostensibly to battle the drug trade. Of course it's
    become apparent the government had numerous other objectives as well.

    It's not so much that the law is being ignored as it is that it's forgotten. People haven't
    taken large bills to the bank in many years and the occurance is outside the experience
    of most younger bank employees including many managers.

    Keep in mind as well that transactions over $10,000 now have to be reported and this law
    is being enforced stringently today. The bank manager would certainly report the receipt
    of even a small stack of $1000 bills. This is probably considered sufficient to fullfill the
    original intent of the law requiring redemption anyway. The government is far more con-
    cerned with the movement of large amounts of cash than they are the fate of a few $1000
    bills.

    Since the deposit was "reversed" it is entirely possible that the bank wouldn't be liable for
    redeeming them even if this law were being enforced today.

    There are millions of laws in effect and you probably couldn't find two lawyers who agreed
    on the legality of this issue anyway. It might fall on some accounting definition. God only
    knows but I'd wager this law hasn't been enforced in at least a quarter century.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well done!
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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭
    I hate to sound greedy, but where's your "finder's fee"? image

    Still a great deed what you/your bank did. image
    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭
    Very nice gesture. Am surprised that the fellow didn't suspect they had a premium.
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heck, I was at the Drive-Thru at McDonalds and paid with (3) new $2 bills and the girl looked at them,,,,, held them up to the light looking for the anti-counterfitting strip which they don't have,,,,, ran to her supervisor and it took them 5 minutes to deceide that they were real.

    I thought sure the cops were going to pull up behind me,,,,,

    GrandAm image
    GrandAm :)
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    If they were well circulated, his local dealer probably would only offer face or a small premium. I would have let it go.
  • One of these days, Alice ...

    That's pretty awesome. Actually VERY awesome. image
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting story..... I often wonder how many old bills/coins cross a teller's counter and never get into a collection... or get into the teller's collection. image Cheers, RickO

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