If you're into cathedral medals, this one is very cool.

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Lakesammman
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Currently at CRO - love the rarity of a silver example and the toning on the interior scene! image

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  • mustanggt
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  • derryb
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    3-D?

    LinK?

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  • Broadstruck
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    That's some crazy depth and I really like the lighter tone at 9 o'clock as it looks like sunlight venturing in through the left arch.
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  • rodorr
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    I found medal. I wish I had at least $5000 to spare!

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  • derryb
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    looks even more realistic when not viewed as a coin.

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  • derryb
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    << <i>I found medal. I wish I had at least $5000 to spare!

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    At that price the obverse dampens my interest

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  • rodorr
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    Ah, but that is one fantastic engraving, and you only need to look at one side at a time.

    rodorr
  • Zoins
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    Nice piece I saw on CRO the other day. image

    Are silver Wiener medals as rare as described? Is this likely a unique piece?
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  • rodorr
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    Found this nice piece about Jacob Weiner and his Medals. Quite nice.

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    rodorr
  • Zoins
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    << <i>Found this nice piece about Jacob Weiner and his Medals. Quite nice.

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    rodorr >>



    Wow, great presentation for the CONA Coin Club.
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  • keyman64
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    Way Cool!
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    Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner. :smile:
  • lkeigwin
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    Beautiful. I've always loved that medal...for less than $5,000.
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  • AMRC
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    I am overwhelmed when I think about the effort the person went through who made the dies.
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  • MidLifeCrisis
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    An amazing piece. image
  • Weiss
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    Not my cup of tea.








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  • AuroraBorealis
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    That is very cool! Especially the way the toning accentuates the 3-D effect...

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  • Zoins
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    It's on hold now imageimage
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  • renman95
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    Nice Wiener.
  • Type2
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    Nice image


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  • baddogss
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    << <i>Found this nice piece about Jacob Weiner and his Medals. Quite nice.

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    I like the series. Nice silvered example.

    Thanks a lot for the CONA link, very good information.
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  • JedPlanchet
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    It's an amazing series - great info in this thread
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  • ricko
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    These have always been my favorites among medals... Cheers, RickO
  • Weiss
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    It's pretty eye-catching, even from afar:

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  • Swampboy
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    I have to say I felt like I was on vacation studying the image in the OP for a few minutes.
    What genius.

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  • spy88
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    Back in early 2004, a past member (JRocco) had one of these. It was never mentioned
    if silver or not but same medal. Here is the post from then. I did extensive Google searches for info on it but came up almost empty.

    So then I posted it ATS to see if there was anyone there who knew anything about it. Here is a link to that post. Several
    of the 4 pages of posts have links that still work.

    Back then, I really wanted one of these bad but JR and I never finished a deal.
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  • JRocco
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    Hey Spy88 Here is some info buddy
    This bronze medal measures 82 mm in diameter and 8-9 mm in thickness.
    And talk about detail.... You can walk into this piece.

    "Consecration of the Restored Basilica of Saint Paul Outside the Walls
    Obverse: Bust of Pius IX facing left, wearing zucchetto, mozzetta, and decorative stole. Around, PIVS IX PONT · MAX ·. Below, I · BIANCHI F ·.
    Reverse: Interior view of the Basilica of Saint Paul Outside the Walls, looking down the central nave towards the apse. Around the border, PIVS · IX · P · M · BASILICAM · PAVLI · APOST · AB · INCENDIO · REFECTAM · SOLEMNI · RITV · CONSECRAVIT · IV · ID · DEC · MDCCCLIV. In exergue, AL · POLETTI · ARCH · INV ·. At the base of the floor, I · BIANCHI · FECIT ·.

    Medal issued to commemorate the consecration of the Basilica of Saint Paul by Pius IX in 1854 and was created by Giuseppe Bianchi. The reverse of the medal features a stunning three-dimensional engraving of the central nave of the reconstructed basilica. The architect of the reconstruction, Luigi Poletti, is mentioned on the reverse in the exergue inscription. The date of the consecration (December 10, 1854) is provided on the reverse using the Julian calendar (IV · ID · DEC · MDCCCLIV). The reverse inscription can be translated as "Basilica of the Apostle Paul, from the Fire to Solemnity by the Ceremony of Consecration".

    Historical Background: The Basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls was nearly completely destroyed by a fire on July 15, 1823. It is believed that the fire was caused by a negligent workman repairing the lead on the basilica's roof. The reconstruction was a major event, with various countries contributing. The basilica reopened in 1840, but was not fully completed until 1931 when the central bronze doors were installed. The transept was consecrated during the 1840 reopening by the current pontiff, Gregory XVI. The basilica as a whole was not consecrated until December 10, 1854 by Pius IX. The reconstruction work was begun under Pasquale Belli and completed under Luigi Poletti. Unfortunately, during the reconstruction, much of the original basilica and frescoes were lost. "

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    The obverse is pretty cool too
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  • JRocco
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    Hey Spy.
    Here is another awesome work by Bianchi.
    This is a separate piece, also done to commemorate Pope Pius IX
    Looking at this you would think this was a great big part of the design of this medal.
    Even the steps are detailed and in full relief.
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    Pulling back a bit you can see that this is just a piece of the larger design. Note the detail on the wall engravings in this "church"
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    Back a little further and you can see that this throne is set well back in the interior of the church. Note the detail on the pillars.
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    Looking up at the roof of the church you really get the sense that you are IN the church looking up at the detailed ceiling.
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    The detail on the pillars in amazing.
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    You get the feeling you could just step into the medal. The detail goes beyond the pillars to the walls behind.
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    The reverse in its entirety.
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    Good stuff
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  • baddogss
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    and you wonder why he went blind ... he had an amazing skill.
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  • coinrollhunter
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    That coin right there is "intelligently designed"...pun intended.
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  • spy88
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    Hey JR! Sent you a PM.

    And absolutely stunning medallions and pics! Thanks for posting!
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  • JRocco
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    Got it spy,
    Stay well and I will talk to you again.
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  • coinsarefun
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    Hi JRocco, I was wondering when you would chime inimage


    whenever I see one of these I think of youimage


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  • JRocco
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    Hey Stef, how are you?
    I have been able to pick up a few more and they are in various states of conservation. Last one had pretty bad fire damage.
    One of these days I will get them out to image and update the thread on your site.
    Stay well.
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  • Zoins
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    Just ran across this again and thought it deserved a bump!

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  • OldIndianNutKase
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    I think the toning must be AT........by God.

    OINK

  • ricko
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    These medals are still my favorites... the art is incredible... almost as if you could walk right into the cathedral...Cheers, RickO

  • JRocco
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    Looks like the Photobucket fiasco took out a lot of these older pics....bummer
    Here are a few taken a couple years back. The medal is coated with oil as I currently have it soaking
    to help conserve it for another 200 years. images to show detail in these pieces.







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  • Zoins
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    Here's my only cathedral piece so far, but I have followed them for a bit.

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  • Jimnight
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    edited February 25, 2018 10:02AM
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    For me it's mind blogging beauty.

  • RogerB
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    Original posted image: That is so nice -- almost makes one want to convert !

  • Weiss
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    So pleased this piece continues to excite the passions of my fellow collectors. :)

    When I spoke with medal specialist Dr. Benjamin Weiss after acquiring this piece almost 5 years back, he indicated the silver Wiener medals were "far more rare" than the bronze counterparts. I've yet to find another silver Wiener from our hosts, NGC, or raw. Even silvered bronze are scarce.

    I am considering releasing this piece from my box of 20, though. So if anyone interested...

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