I know this is meant in jest, but what people continue to the miss the point on these debates are terms like 'Vikings' or any other that's thrown up in the defense of Redskins are not racial epithets. 'Redskin' is just as offensive a term to Native Americans as there is. Just because we've used it in our vernacular for decades doesn't lessen its historical significance of being an insult.
Patriots: Offensive to non-Americans Jets: Offensive to anti-war advocates Ravens: Offensive to the ancestors of Edgar Allen Poe, since he was born in Boston Browns: Offensive to persons of Hispanic and Middle Eastern decent Chiefs: Offensive to Native Americans Raiders: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates (the term 'Raider' also applies in honor of SanctionII) Cowboys: Offensive to Native Americans Giants: Offensive to persons that are vertically challenged Vikings: Offensive to persons of Nordic decent, while also offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by said Vikings Saints: Offensive to persons that do not believe in religion Buccaneers: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates 49ers: Offensive to Native Americans
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
The Fighting Irish is very different. Notre Dame would need to be the drunkin Paddys to come close. I never understood any defense of the name redskins. It's derogatory guys. If we called the team the Washington Wetbacks or something along those lines, you wouldn't defend it, but you defend this. I'm amazed it's an issue to change it.
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<< <i>The Fighting Irish is very different. Notre Dame would need to be the drunkin Paddys to come close. I never understood any defense of the name redskins. It's derogatory guys. If we called the team the Washington Wetbacks or something along those lines, you wouldn't defend it, but you defend this. I'm amazed it's an issue to change it. >>
The reason? Most people don't know any Native Americans, so they feel its ok to continue to use this highly derisive, racial slur for a football team name. The most telling of just how foolish this fight in keeping the name has been is that not a SINGLE person has put forth any argument defending the name 'Redskin', most likely because there is NO defense for keeping the name. Worst yet? None of these people fighting against changing it are even fans of the team in the first place!
Patriots: Offensive to non-Americans Jets: Offensive to anti-war advocates Ravens: Offensive to the ancestors of Edgar Allen Poe, since he was born in Boston Browns: Offensive to persons of Hispanic and Middle Eastern decent Chiefs: Offensive to Native Americans Raiders: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates (the term 'Raider' also applies in honor of SanctionII) Cowboys: Offensive to Native Americans Giants: Offensive to persons that are vertically challenged Vikings: Offensive to persons of Nordic decent, while also offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by said Vikings Saints: Offensive to persons that do not believe in religion Buccaneers: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates 49ers: Offensive to Native Americans >>
Patriots: Offensive to non-Americans Jets: Offensive to anti-war advocates Ravens: Offensive to the ancestors of Edgar Allen Poe, since he was born in Boston Browns: Offensive to persons of Hispanic and Middle Eastern decent Chiefs: Offensive to Native Americans Raiders: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates (the term 'Raider' also applies in honor of SanctionII) Cowboys: Offensive to Native Americans Giants: Offensive to persons that are vertically challenged Vikings: Offensive to persons of Nordic decent, while also offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by said Vikings Saints: Offensive to persons that do not believe in religion Buccaneers: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates 49ers: Offensive to Native Americans >>
Adding in one:
Bills: totally offending to anyone in debt. >>
Chargers: Offensive to those struck by lightning and to the Amish
The Baltimore Orioles is an offensive name to those that can't spell and believe in their mind that they have the right to not be offended while offending the sensibilities of normal thinking humans .---- Sonny
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Patriots: Offensive to non-Americans
Jets: Offensive to anti-war advocates
Ravens: Offensive to the ancestors of Edgar Allen Poe, since he was born in Boston
Browns: Offensive to persons of Hispanic and Middle Eastern decent
Chiefs: Offensive to Native Americans
Raiders: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates (the term 'Raider' also applies in honor of SanctionII)
Cowboys: Offensive to Native Americans
Giants: Offensive to persons that are vertically challenged
Vikings: Offensive to persons of Nordic decent, while also offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by said Vikings
Saints: Offensive to persons that do not believe in religion
Buccaneers: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates
49ers: Offensive to Native Americans
<< <i>The Fighting Irish is very different. Notre Dame would need to be the drunkin Paddys to come close. I never understood any defense of the name redskins. It's derogatory guys. If we called the team the Washington Wetbacks or something along those lines, you wouldn't defend it, but you defend this. I'm amazed it's an issue to change it. >>
The reason? Most people don't know any Native Americans, so they feel its ok to continue to use this highly derisive, racial slur for a football team name. The most telling of just how foolish this fight in keeping the name has been is that not a SINGLE person has put forth any argument defending the name 'Redskin', most likely because there is NO defense for keeping the name. Worst yet? None of these people fighting against changing it are even fans of the team in the first place!
<< <i>How did I miss this thread? Here's my list:
Patriots: Offensive to non-Americans
Jets: Offensive to anti-war advocates
Ravens: Offensive to the ancestors of Edgar Allen Poe, since he was born in Boston
Browns: Offensive to persons of Hispanic and Middle Eastern decent
Chiefs: Offensive to Native Americans
Raiders: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates (the term 'Raider' also applies in honor of SanctionII)
Cowboys: Offensive to Native Americans
Giants: Offensive to persons that are vertically challenged
Vikings: Offensive to persons of Nordic decent, while also offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by said Vikings
Saints: Offensive to persons that do not believe in religion
Buccaneers: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates
49ers: Offensive to Native Americans >>
Adding in one:
Bills: totally offending to anyone in debt.
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<< <i>How did I miss this thread? Here's my list:
Patriots: Offensive to non-Americans
Jets: Offensive to anti-war advocates
Ravens: Offensive to the ancestors of Edgar Allen Poe, since he was born in Boston
Browns: Offensive to persons of Hispanic and Middle Eastern decent
Chiefs: Offensive to Native Americans
Raiders: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates (the term 'Raider' also applies in honor of SanctionII)
Cowboys: Offensive to Native Americans
Giants: Offensive to persons that are vertically challenged
Vikings: Offensive to persons of Nordic decent, while also offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by said Vikings
Saints: Offensive to persons that do not believe in religion
Buccaneers: Offensive to the victims of past crimes committed by Pirates
49ers: Offensive to Native Americans >>
Adding in one:
Bills: totally offending to anyone in debt. >>
Chargers: Offensive to those struck by lightning and to the Amish