OK is this a fake or maybe messed with? New ceritifcation added not sure if it is legitimate?

Morganmanic · October 7, 2013 6:25AM

I do not think it is. This is not electroplated in my opinion. The weight is 2.432 grams. Anyone have an opinion? Possibly cent on dime planchant?

Thanks

braddick · October 7, 2013 6:31AM

If it has a slightly greasy feel to it probably coated in mercury awhile ago.

FredWeinberg · October 7, 2013 6:38AM

I think there's a good possibility it's on a
foreign planchet - The weight is close to
38.5 grains (given the wear on it, etc.),
which is what a Costa Rica 10Centimos
planchet weights (diameter of 18 mm. vrs.
19.05 mm for a US Cent.

It's also darn close to a US Dime planchet,
but based on what I can see in your scans,
it just doesn't look like it's a Dime; with the
17.9 mm diameter of a silver dime, there
shouldn't be as much of the coin showing
as is in your photo.

US Cent - 19.05 mm diameter
US Dime - 17.90 mm
Costa Rica - 18.00 mm

Does it 'sound' silver to you???

If not, it's probably on a foreign planchet -
the condition and wear pattern make it
tuff to tell exactly what it's on from photos only.

Fred

crypto79 · October 7, 2013 8:48AM

the fact that liberty is cut off makes me think a different planchet but I would leave it up to Mr Weinburg as to which one.

CaptHenway · October 7, 2013 8:56AM

Specific gravity would be good to know.

I like Fred's idea that it is a foreign planchet. Looks like old copper-nickel.

silverpop · October 7, 2013 9:58AM

send it in to a coin expert and get their opinion on what it could be

Morganmanic · October 7, 2013 11:15PM

<< <i>I think there's a good possibility it's on a
foreign planchet - The weight is close to
38.5 grains (given the wear on it, etc.),
which is what a Costa Rica 10Centimos
planchet weights (diameter of 18 mm. vrs.
19.05 mm for a US Cent.

It's also darn close to a US Dime planchet,
but based on what I can see in your scans,
it just doesn't look like it's a Dime; with the
17.9 mm diameter of a silver dime, there
shouldn't be as much of the coin showing
as is in your photo.

US Cent - 19.05 mm diameter
US Dime - 17.90 mm
Costa Rica - 18.00 mm

Does it 'sound' silver to you???

If not, it's probably on a foreign planchet -
the condition and wear pattern make it
tuff to tell exactly what it's on from photos only.

Fred >>

Hello

Who would you suggest I send this to to see what it is.

Morganmanic · October 7, 2013 11:25PM

OK everyone here is something interesting. This came with the coin but I did not see it because it was not in the holder at the time I saw it.

Thanks

Steve27 · October 7, 2013 11:31PM

From a 2004 post by conder101:

"INS (International Numismatic Society Authentication Bureau) Little known service based in Washington DC. Active beginning in the mid 70's it specialized in Non-US coins at a time when only ANACS would certify Non-US coins and no one else would grade them. INS actually began grading coins before ANACS making it the first grading firm. Once they began grading the number of US coins submitted rose greatly and the number of “international” coins dropped to a miniscule percentage of those submitted. This company had a very low profile and most people didn’t know it existed even while they were in operation.. They used a certificate back in the 70's and 80's. They announced in Jan 1989 that they would start using slabs Jan 27th 1989."

Alltheabove76 · October 7, 2013 11:37PM

Cool. Where did you get it? Sounds like you probably got it cheap and hit the jackpot. The only odd thing to me is that is seems to be heavily circulated and I would have thought someone would have plucked it rather quickly instead of circulating it so much. This was well before steel cents, so it seems that it would have stuck out in change.

Morganmanic · October 8, 2013 12:00AM

I bought it with a collection that came into my store. I paid very little but I will have to contact the gentleman and give him so additional money if this proves to be real. I agree that it is well worn and should have been plucked earlier. Any idea what this might be worth after it once again gets certified?.

Thanks

crypto79 · October 8, 2013 12:26AM

<< <i>I bought it with a collection that came into my store. I paid very little but I will have to contact the gentleman and give him so additional money if this proves to be real. I agree that it is well worn and should have been plucked earlier. Any idea what this might be worth after it once again gets certified?.

Thanks >>

My guess
on Dime stock 500-750 in PCGS plastic
on a non-silver and or foreign planchet it would be less

ricko · October 8, 2013 12:30AM

No idea of value, but why not send it to Fred W. first, for his analysis, and based on that, to our hosts for slabbing? Cheers, RickO

CaptHenway · October 8, 2013 1:21AM

Very interesting new development, but I would still get the specific gravity checked. INSAB was not known for their reliability. They might have called it a silver dime because of the weight, without considering the posibility of a foreign planchet.

AUandAG · October 8, 2013 3:13AM

<< <i>No idea of value, but why not send it to Fred W. first, for his analysis, and based on that, to our hosts for slabbing? Cheers, RickO >>

Just reverse this statement RickO as Fred will see it when it gets to PCGS (he's the authenticator).

bob

OK is this a fake or maybe messed with? New ceritifcation added not sure if it is legitimate?

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