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3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Its not my auction and If I had the money I would bid on it. I don't know if its rude to put it in the streets or point it out while the auction is still live? In other words, is it cool to link it here or not?

Erik

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,736 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you truly don't have a financial interest in it, I suppose there would not be a problem. The trouble is there is a fine line between a numismatic interest and spam activity, which is met to promote a given item. How do you separate the honest guys from the spammers? That is a tough question.

    Generally I would wait until the auction is closed, and then post it here.
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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you truly don't have a financial interest in it, I suppose there would not be a problem. The trouble is there is a fine line between a numismatic interest and spam activity, which is met to promote a given item. How do you separate the honest guys from the spammers? That is a tough question.

    Generally I would wait until the auction is closed, and then post it here. >>



    Fair enough and thanks for the response image

    Erik
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It happens.

    People post stuff pre-completion.

    Some get upset because they are bidders and don't want the attention.


    It's your call.

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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭
    It annoys me if someone links a coin that I'm interested in, but people looking for what I'm interested in will have probably found the coin themselves while doing their regular web searches long before it was linked on the forum, so I never expect it to generate more bids.

    If it's an unattributed variety that could have been cherry picked if less people were aware of it, that's a different story, in which case I would be disappointed and confused about why someone would post a link to such a coin on public forum.
    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It annoys me if someone links a coin that I'm interested in, but people looking for what I'm interested in will have probably found the coin themselves while doing their regular web searches long before it was linked on the forum, so I never expect it to generate more bids.

    If it's an unattributed variety that could have been cherry picked if less people were aware of it, that's a different story, in which case I would be disappointed and confused about why someone would post a link to such a coin on public forum. >>



    its no cherry pick as far as I can tell and I will wait till it ends before linking it... I guess if people know what I like they would know where to search. Its no big deal.

    Erik
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you don't want it, others here may be interested in it so feel free to share it with your fellow forum members.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    here they are, all three finished...

    coin#1
    coin#2
    coin#3

    Erik
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have been screwed TWICE when others have done this. I try not to do it because of this....but at some point like a 6/7-figure coin I can't imagine it matters....but probably still not a good idea.

    There ended up being way more bidders for me to compete with, driving up the cost of the items I desired. Once I won but payed a bloody fortune. The other time I did NOT win the item and ended up buying it from a dealer later for WAY MORE money. Messing with my bank account is not funny. image
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    Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner. :smile:
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you don't want it, others here may be interested in it so feel free to share it with your fellow forum members. >>



    This was my original thinking in all honesty, share the wealth...but I though about it some more and I guess I would be pissed a bit if I were a bidder and did all the research and found it only to be put out in the public by a non-contender. Either way... If I had an extra $300+ I would have bought all 3 coins.

    Erik
  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<<I have been screwed TWICE when others have done this>>

    So you know for certain that your over bidders would not have bid at all,, except that it was listed here??

    even if so,,, how could that possibly be interpreted as you got "screwed".... how about the seller got what it was worth???


  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I get upset, when someone posts a coin currently up for auction, if I am bidding on the coin. Makes me feel like, now the whole world knows about what I hoped I found, only with my extensive research work.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,486 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i><<<I have been screwed TWICE when others have done this>>

    So you know for certain that your over bidders would not have bid at all,, except that it was listed here??

    even if so,,, how could that possibly be interpreted as you got "screwed".... how about the seller got what it was worth??? >>



    I guess some people think they got screwed when they couldn't rip it.image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,649 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i><<<I have been screwed TWICE when others have done this>>

    So you know for certain that your over bidders would not have bid at all,, except that it was listed here??

    even if so,,, how could that possibly be interpreted as you got "screwed".... how about the seller got what it was worth??? >>

    Certainly, it can be viewed in a couple of different ways...but yes, one of them I know for a FACT because I later had a discussion with the under bidder that did not know about the coin until he saw the very active thread here on the forums about it.

    The second happening, I cannot be sure but have my suspicions of course due to what happened to me the first time.

    Same date/variety in each scenario...just different grades.
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just don't do it. Someone here may be bidding on it and may not be too happy with you.

    Patience, just wait and post it when the auction has finished.
  • hammer1hammer1 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    I guess some people think they got screwed when they couldn't rip it.image >>



    Like you wouldn't.
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,649 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i><<<I have been screwed TWICE when others have done this>>

    So you know for certain that your over bidders would not have bid at all,, except that it was listed here??

    even if so,,, how could that possibly be interpreted as you got "screwed".... how about the seller got what it was worth??? >>



    I guess some people think they got screwed when they couldn't rip it.image >>

    PH you are very wrong; you do not know all of the details. This was actually an attributed item in a TPG holder and properly listed at auction. At the time, there was only one other bidder willing/able to go so high. He did not learn about the item until the thread was posted here! There was plenty of other interest in the coin so I ended up paying at least $500 more than the coin is worth today. Without the primary underbidder I would not have needed to shell out that extra money.
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner. :smile:
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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just don't do it. Someone here may be bidding on it and may not be too happy with you.

    Patience, just wait and post it when the auction has finished. >>



    I agree.
    John Agre

    Coin Rarities Online
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Generally speaking, I believe it's best to refrain from spotlighting current eBay coin auctions on this forum until the auction(s) close. Exceptions might be made to point out obvious fake items or something along those lines. If it's a desirable coin, you will undoubtedly stir up at least some resentment from any member that is following the auction with an intent to possibly bid or snipe it near the closing bell.

    If you know any forum members that you are pretty sure would be interested in the item, you could always PM them about it.
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
  • Coppertop1982Coppertop1982 Posts: 95 ✭
    Im on the "its common ettiquette not to publicly post " just as its common ettiquette not to msg the seller out of spite about more perceived value ,if you don't win said coin., simple respect. Its there for all to see, so let them use what GOD gave them to see it. Linking a buddy to a coin that you aren't going to purchase , is one thing. Linking on a huge public forum is a bit disrepectful to the bidders who have hours,weeks,months of searching and waiting for it to go off.


  • vibr0nicvibr0nic Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
    So long as you do not have a vested interest in it, I see no problem with posting a coin that you like that is available on the market. It doesn't matter if it's on eBay, a dealer's site, or a major auction house. And yes, I've suffered by losing out on a coin because people have done this, but look, this a place for public discussion of all things coins, and that certainly includes coins available on the market.
    I like large size currency and silver dollars.
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,287 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>here they are, all three finished...

    coin#1
    coin#2
    coin#3

    Erik >>



    Are you going to tell us why these are interesting to you?
    They seem to be 1900-O Morgans, MS-63, with serial numbers close to each other.
  • vibr0nicvibr0nic Posts: 614 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Are you going to tell us why these are interesting to you?
    They seem to be 1900-O Morgans, MS-63, with serial numbers close to each other. >>



    I presume it had something to do with the doily label as well.
    I like large size currency and silver dollars.
  • KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>here they are, all three finished...

    coin#1
    coin#2
    coin#3

    Erik >>



    Are you going to tell us why these are interesting to you?
    They seem to be 1900-O Morgans, MS-63, with serial numbers close to each other. >>


    They are Doilys.

    All three of which were on my watchlist.
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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just don't do it. Someone here may be bidding on it and may not be too happy with you.

    Patience, just wait and post it when the auction has finished. >>




    BAN THAT MAN! Too much etiquette and common sense to be involved in coins.

    Just STFU on what you ain't biddin on. Hold yer tung. Be decent.
    image
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Forum etiquette for posting a cool piece during live auction that you won't be bidding on but want to share for others? >>

    If it's a cool coin while it's up for auction, it'll still be a cool coin when the auction is over, won't it?
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After reading all the replies I will assume that I made the correct decision to wait until the auctions ended before posting links image

    Happy Friday and drink up like its your last day on earth image

    Erik
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love it when someone points out a deal I've overlooked and hate the flip side. image
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  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I cheated myself out of the score of a lifetime once by posting a question here about a listed coin. I realized my mistake within 15 minutes and killed the post, but it was too late. Lesson learned, but it was a hugely expensive one...

    mbogoman

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  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    You showed excellent forum etiquette for asking before posting the information.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My late dad said to me , "it ain't no skin off your nose". I did not have to hear that too many times to realize it's best to be quiet when it's interfering or bringing unwanted attention to something I'm not part of .
    Respectfully submitted.
    and as an aside... ( I made such a mistake, once or twice)

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  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭✭
    As long as you have no financial or promotional interest, I see no problem with it. Some may complain about it attracting competition if they are interested in the coin, but I say tough. People like to complain. I say go ahead and exercise your freedom.
    image Respectfully, Mark
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    There certainly are enough CU members, that would be feeling poorly, if you posted auction coins that they want to bid on, so do not post the auction coins on this forum. Why upset CU any forum members, if only a few?
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • vibr0nicvibr0nic Posts: 614 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why upset CU any forum members, if only a few? >>



    I don't think that shouldn't be the standard by which you decide whether to post *anything* here (and I would say, in fact, that it is not). I'm sure nearly everyone here has said something that may have upset a few other forum members for any variety of reasons. And in this instance, anyone getting upset would be so for entirely selfish reasons. That's not good enough reason for everyone to censor themselves.

    From a simpler viewpoint, my goodness, if there was ANY place on the Internet to publicly discuss a coin on the market, THIS IS THE PLACE, is it not?
    I like large size currency and silver dollars.
  • JustlookingJustlooking Posts: 2,895 ✭
    Those went cheap, didn't they?
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    The ideal forum would be you could post anything you feel is interesting and worth sharing,
    (don't post it)
    and if you read between the lines you'll understand how posts like that are valued here.
    Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org

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