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Why Coin Dealers Drink, Part 4 (literally) --- A Post From a Very Old Coin Forum: Mason's Coin Mag

numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

While doing a bit of research last night, I ran across what could be the fourth installment of the "Why Coin Dealers Drink" series of threads that are so popular on the PCGS forum. I actually have the first three installments as well, but I like part 4 the best. The title for the original "thread" was "LIFE SCENES IN THE EXPERIENCE OF A COIN DEALER," which is markedly more elegant than the modern "why we drink" type of title.

The series was written by Ebenezer Locke Mason, Jr., and each month he would relate an entertaining story about the challenges of dealing with the public. Surprisingly, the tone he took with customers in 1870 is not much different than the way some dealers are today. If anything, he was harsher than what would want to tolerate in this day and age.

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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Love it!image
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    USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for sharing, very cool!
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    nencoinnencoin Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭✭
    That's hilarious! Nice find! I actually just had to deal with someone via email this week wondering why their worn and bezeled 1910 Saint is worth under $1400, when they heard about a Saint that sold for several million. I explained (in my fourth email to them) the reason why, and discussed the rarity of the later date Saint that they were trying to compare their 1910 to. I then got the reply that the Supid Knowing One gave above to the coin dealer: their coin is older and thus is worth more. It became quite clear that nothing I could tell them would convince them that their coin was not worth millions of dollars.
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess some thing just don't change. image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was an outstanding read!
    Thanks.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful. Thank you image

    Today, a lady came into the shop with non-numismatic items. My response was , "this is a coin shop". Her response: "I know".
    She got money and I got something to "drink" out of. A couple shot glasses from the Hard Rock Cafe Boston and Orlando, plus +
    Would post photos, but unsure if it's acceptable behavior from a coin dealer.





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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great... no matter how much changes, things tend to remain the same with humans.... image Cheers, RickO
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    CoinCastCoinCast Posts: 511 ✭✭✭
    This was great!! image

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just slightly before my time............
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Very cool, the more things change the more the insufferable ignoramus's stay the same image
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    SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "knowing one" Who says there wasn't humour in the 19th century?
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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great stuff.
    History repeats itself!
    And people still struggle to make decisions when they have very incomplete information (yet are often unwilling to learn).
    Just like we saw in the parallel experiences from the person who ran the video game rental store.
    http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=894959&STARTPAGE=1
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Were 1798 large cents only worth a nickel in 1870? Sounds like a low ball offer.image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Were 1798 large cents only worth a nickel in 1870? Sounds like a low ball offer.image >>



    You think that was a low ball offer? I have heard that dealers only paid face value for 90% silver coins at that time. image
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    this is brilliant.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,553 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Were 1798 large cents only worth a nickel in 1870? Sounds like a low ball offer.image >>



    You think that was a low ball offer? I have heard that dealers only paid face value for 90% silver coins at that time. image >>



    Were 1798 large cents still in circulation in 1870?image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Plus ca change, plus le meme chose" image
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If anyone's interested, Mason's has been reprinted, and a set can be purchased very reasonably.
    Andy Lustig

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was fantastic! Loved it!
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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    breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great read. I have to figure a way to work "insufferable ignoramus" into conversation more often.

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If that B&M dealer offered him five cents, you can be sure that it was actually worth at least five times that. Indeed, times have not changed. Ha ha.
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    numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If anyone's interested, Mason's has been reprinted, and a set can be purchased very reasonably. >>



    There were only 215 copies reprinted, but Andy is correct that the prices are reasonable. I recommend the reprints to everyone who loves early American numismatics. There was a long-standing feud between a couple of coin dealers and they exchanged terse words via these early journals.

    Just as the story in the OP is comparable to a modern forum post, the dealer letters back and forth were the equivalent of a prehistoric, numismatic "flame war."

    Here's a set priced at $100 - Charles Davis
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
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