VERY VERY VERY BAD situation at ANA!!!!

DIMEMAN · August 19, 2013 7:27AM

Anybody else find it TOTALLY unacceptable that there were not any tables in the back of bourse to relax at!

Heck, you even had to stand up to EAT!!!!

WHAT IS THE DEAL!!!!!

MsMorrisine · August 19, 2013 7:28AM

coinsarefun · August 19, 2013 7:28AM

Isn't standing better for digestion?

Oh,.....that's supposed to be for somethin else.......never mind

commoncents05 · August 19, 2013 7:30AM

If this was the worst part of the show, I think you're doing just fine.

-Paul

Coinosaurus · August 19, 2013 7:32AM

There were tons of empty booths scattered about the floor. If someone had setup and started dealing in one of them I'm not sure the ANA would have detected it.

CoinJunkie · August 19, 2013 7:33AM

<< WHAT IS THE DEAL!!!!! >>

Maybe the idea was that if you wanted to sit, you should be at a dealer's table perusing coins!

PerryHall · August 19, 2013 7:33AM

<< Anybody else find it TOTALLY unacceptable that there were not any tables in the back of bourse to relax at!

Heck, you even had to stand up to EAT!!!!

WHAT IS THE DEAL!!!!! >>

Did you complain to any of the show managers there?

DIMEMAN · August 19, 2013 7:37AM

>>>If this was the worst part of the show, I think you're doing just fine.<<<

May seem minor to you, but it's a show stopper for me. I will call next year and NOT go if they do that again.

I have never been to a large show that didn't have tables......NEVER!!

I hate Chicago anyway! So it won't be a huge loss in my coin hunting!

keyman64 · August 19, 2013 7:39AM

They are trying to discourage the elderly from attending shows and they are trying to encourage the young to attend and shop shop shop until they drop...or maybe they only want elderly that have their own scooters?

Maybe this is the ANA's new marketing campaign?

Dennis88 · August 19, 2013 7:40AM

There were tables but they were behind the curtain that was behind the Smithsonian exhibit and was actually quite nice. No trading was allowed there, and it seemed to be a policy that was quite heavily enforced.

I admit they were hard to find, but they were definitely there.

Dennis

mustanggt · August 19, 2013 7:42AM

I think you make a very valid point. I had never seen a show with absolutely no place to take a break.

halfcentman · August 19, 2013 7:52AM

Yes, those tables were behind the curtain in the left corner of the room - and there was copious seating.

But the real problem was the lack of seating outside the bourse area, and that was a HUGE problem for me since I came very close to needing a cortisone injection in my knee during the show.

PerryHall · August 19, 2013 7:55AM

That's shocking. The last thing the ANA needs is another scandal.

DIMEMAN · August 19, 2013 7:55AM

>>>There were tables but they were behind the curtain that was behind the Smithsonian exhibit and was actually quite nice. No trading was allowed there, and it seemed to be a policy that was quite heavily enforced. <<<

This is another STUPID rule I don't understand.

I feel I have the right to trade or buy from anybody at the show as long as I don't do it around a dealers table.

And I made such a deal at ANA Thursday!

And will always do so as I please!

braddick · August 19, 2013 7:55AM

ambro51 · August 19, 2013 8:09AM

He's Right. There should be ample seating available in many locations. Give old men a break dammit. We don't do well standing for 8 hrs

MsMorrisine · August 19, 2013 8:14AM

I thought this was making fun of the hot topic.

tell laura.

CoinMan1012 · August 19, 2013 8:19AM

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keyman64 · August 19, 2013 8:23AM

FUN does it right!!! Plenty of seating for food, eating, talking, show and tell etc etc.

Next ANA there should be a protest of 100 people in scooters blocking aisles all day to see how they like that!

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19Lyds · August 19, 2013 8:29AM

Tables, in plain sight, that folks can rest their feet (and butts) at are a plus at any major show where it takes a better part of the day to see half the bourse.

LanceNewmanOCC · August 19, 2013 8:34AM

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i was ok with the lack of seating but it would have been nice.

the thing that really bothered me was that there were too many coins.
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Coinerww2 · August 19, 2013 8:35AM

<< There were tables but they were behind the curtain that was behind the Smithsonian exhibit and was actually quite nice. No trading was allowed there, and it seemed to be a policy that was quite heavily enforced.

I admit they were hard to find, but they were definitely there.

Dennis >>

Yes I took my lunch break and phone breaks there.

WTCG · August 19, 2013 8:38AM

Talk about turning a pile of dirt into the Himalayas...

If concession area tables are dissuading someone from attending a show then you might as well quit going to coin shows for the rest of your life. It's not the tables that bother you. You are merely looking for any excuse, no matter how insignificant, to justify your disdain for the show. If it isn't the tables then it's the lighting. If it isn't that then its the room being too cold. If it isn't that it's that dealer who didn't flash you bright smile. It goes on and on.

Besides, considering how the average coin person (on both sides of the table) looks, they can use not sitting for a few minutes.

derryb · August 19, 2013 8:49AM

The mint needed those tables to store the 2000 rev. proof buffalos.

messydesk · August 19, 2013 9:02AM

<< There were tables but they were behind the curtain that was behind the Smithsonian exhibit and was actually quite nice. No trading was allowed there, and it seemed to be a policy that was quite heavily enforced.

I admit they were hard to find, but they were definitely there. >>

So the problem is one of conspicuity. A couple of signs could have helped here, such as the one that directed visitors to CRO's table at booth 626 upon entering the bourse floor.

CoinRaritiesOnline · August 19, 2013 9:09AM

<< So the problem is one of conspicuity. A couple of signs could have helped here, such as the one that directed visitors to CRO's table at booth 626 upon entering the bourse floor. >>

Conspicuity is my middle name.

krueger · August 19, 2013 9:11AM

<<There were tables but they were behind the curtain that was behind the Smithsonian exhibit and was actually quite nice. No trading was allowed there, and it seemed to be a policy that was quite heavily enforced.

I admit they were hard to find, but they were definitely there.>>

The Area spoken of above was bannered as the "Rest Stop". It was on the bourse map but out of the way behind a curtain, you had to hunt for it.
When I found it there was like two people there, and lots of tables.

Also the isle location banners were not up high so you could see isle numbers across the room but painted on the floor where no one saw them.

Further the table for flyers and announcements / dealer info. was 3 feet long and stuff was piled a foot high and falling onto the floor.
In LA 2009 ANA there where two 8 foot tables for this stuff. When I enquired at the ANA Info-desk about where the table was on opening day
they did not have a clue.

At the Cub game the busses started to leave to return to Rosemont before the game was over contrary to written instructions., and without a verbal announcement to everyone
we had to double up and take a cab to get back!!

The ANA is made up of clubs across the country yet the club table area was as far away from bourse traffic as possible .
so much for stimulating numismatic interest.

Come on ANA get your act together like in the past conventions. This was a poor showing.

Krueger ( 23 ANA conventions)

TwoSides2aCoin · August 19, 2013 9:18AM

You gotta get one of the hovercraft thingies.

abitofthisabitofthat · August 19, 2013 9:25AM

<< 

<< So the problem is one of conspicuity. A couple of signs could have helped here, such as the one that directed visitors to CRO's table at booth 626 upon entering the bourse floor. >>

Conspicuity is my middle name. >>

I thought your middle name was "rarities".

I am sure Laura will want to address this issue of table conspicuity first of all. Nothing could possibly be more important to the ANA. Why don't you give her a call and see what she thinks. Let us know...

DIMEMAN · August 19, 2013 9:33AM

>>>Talk about turning a pile of dirt into the Himalayas...<<<

I totally disagree and it looks like several agree with me. I have heard that ANA does not like to be told that FUN is a better show.

Well.......ANA get use to it...because FUN is 10 times the show you are!!!!!!!

RichieURich · August 19, 2013 9:57AM

<< The ANA is made up of clubs across the country yet the club table area was as far away from bourse traffic as possible .
so much for stimulating numismatic interest. >>

The ANA gets about $2,500 for a table up front. Club tables are given to the clubs free by the ANA.

Now, if you are running the ANA like a business, which tables go up front - - the ones you get $2,500 from, or the free ones?

Bochiman · August 19, 2013 10:02AM

I've seen this style of arguing done at work many times.

Someone has a (legitimate) complaint about an issue, but it is considered a small complaint....so, the argument is to diminish the point and say to work on the larger issues.

I, on the other hand, believe all valid complaints should be addressed and the little ones should be taken care of asap....with the little ones gone, focus on the big ones can occur and get everyone behind them. Something like this is a small complaint, compared to many others, but is legitimate nonetheless and shouldn't take any underling more than a few minutes to resolve moving forward. Why denigrate someone for having an issue and why try to ignore the issue?

coin4sale · August 19, 2013 10:03AM

The lack of seating areas at the ANA this year was noticed and MISSED.

I for one like and use the seating w/ tables set up just outside the bourse at the "big" Baltimore shows. This area is perfect for taking a break, eating a sami, organizing your thoughts, or to meet your buds.

ANA PLEASE TAKE NOTICE AND LEARN FROM EXAMPLE.

BigDowgie · August 19, 2013 10:26AM

You tell'em Dimeman....everyone needs to get a little break in the action!

Coinosaurus · August 19, 2013 10:31AM

<< I've seen this style of arguing done at work many times.

Someone has a (legitimate) complaint about an issue, but it is considered a small complaint....so, the argument is to diminish the point and say to work on the larger issues.

I, on the other hand, believe all valid complaints should be addressed and the little ones should be taken care of asap....with the little ones gone, focus on the big ones can occur and get everyone behind them. Something like this is a small complaint, compared to many others, but is legitimate nonetheless and shouldn't take any underling more than a few minutes to resolve moving forward. Why denigrate someone for having an issue and why try to ignore the issue? >>

My philosophy - the more trivial the complaint, the funnier the OP better be. Otherwise Coinosaurus will get mad.

AMRC · August 19, 2013 10:32AM

Standing room only? Sounds like it was a brisk show

Rollerman · August 19, 2013 12:43PM

It is a concern for those of us who have trouble being on our feet for any length of time. I'd have to sit down every half hour or so to relieve pain and then to find that I'd have to stand up to eat wasn't appreciated. Luckily, there were just enough empty booths that I could grab a chair for 5 minutes and then continue on for another half hour or more. The last big show I went to in Chicago had a seating areawith tables that was appreciated very much.
Pete

TwoSides2aCoin · August 19, 2013 12:48PM

VERY VERY VERY GOOD demonstration

mrpotatoheadd · August 19, 2013 2:00PM

<< I feel I have the right to trade or buy from anybody at the show as long as I don't do it around a dealers table. >>

If you paid for a table like they seem to expect dealers to, you'd have a place to sit.

Problem solved!

CoinRaritiesOnline · August 19, 2013 2:06PM

<< 

<< I feel I have the right to trade or buy from anybody at the show as long as I don't do it around a dealers table. >>

If you paid for a table like they seem to expect dealers to, you'd have a place to sit.

Problem solved! >>

Excellent!

Tiny · August 19, 2013 2:27PM

I've been going to FUN for many years and the January of 2012 show I walked my fat a$$
off and I hurt for a coupled of days. This year in January my wife said get you a walker and
that's just what I did. I used it in January & July and I could have walked the show three
times but just did it twice. Sat my butt down at dealer's tables and could see their coins
real good rather than in the hall's chairs and parked myself anywhere out of the way and relaxed.
Best couple of bucks I ever spent and just love it.

dragon · August 19, 2013 2:31PM

I did notice quite a few people sitting on the concrete stairs at the entrance, and my wife mentioned to me it would've been nice if there was a lounge type area for people to sit down and play with their phones while waiting for others.

mariner67 · August 19, 2013 4:37PM

<< What an outrage!!! Another good reason to hit the bottle hard this p.m.! >>

joeykoins · August 20, 2013 12:30AM

Yep, I too agree with the OP. There should have been MORE seats available. Esp. coming from a show of this magnitude. I'm sure there was no intent by the show reps. Just someone probably didn't think and dropped the ball. I would be upset as well. My 2 cents. Great show to boot.Maybe,except for the topic mentioned? -joey

The Food area would have been the best spot. Esp. after paying those prices,SHHHH!

PerryHall · August 20, 2013 12:43AM

There are a lot of senior citizen coin collectors with age related ailments such as arthritic knees such as myself. While I'm not quite ready to use a wheel chair, a place to sit after walking around for an hour is greatly appreciated.

grip · August 20, 2013 12:54AM

Sounds like Saturday at the VFW after 8PM

MFH · August 20, 2013 1:06AM

I couldn't agree more, a few things were disturbing at the show.
Eating at a bourse table is a definite no-no , IMHO, and eating at
one of only five Pub-Tables in the snack bar, while standing was
very inconvenient especially when every square inch of table space
was spoken for. This is the first large show i've attended, where there
wasn't a place to sit down, enjoy your lunch, have a cup of coffee with
a friend, or have a "show and tell" with your newps.

Although many people were thrilled at having first shot at the Reverse
Proof Gold Buffalos, and then having a quick flip to the bullion dealers
for a few hundred dollar profit, many dealers complained that this two
day Mint event competed with their show and was draining funds for an
otherwise "run of the mill Mint product". The lines were hours long and
the people were limited to five coins the first day and three coins the
second day. At one point I was alone at my table because the incentive
was so great for a fast buck, all my table mates disappeared. It wasn't
that big a deal, as all the customers were standing in line with them.

The Mint sale should have been before show hours ( 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM )
and held in a conference room ( there were plenty of them ) .

Other than that, I feel the ANA did a wonderful job. The displays were great
(as they always are ) and the personnel from COS were friendly ( as they always are ).
There were some lounge chairs in the ANA Exibit ( which was carpeted and not
exactly the place to have a snack or a beverage ) but at least a place to sit and
relax ( I spent some time there one late afternoon with a client who has spent
well over a quarter of a million dollars with me over the years. )

It was a very well run show, I met quite a few Forum regulars and can now associate
a face with a name. It was great to see so many familiar dealer faces as well. It seems
that my table ( Glenn Holsonbake's table actually ) was surrounded by dealers I knew
... and more importantly, dealers I liked.

So, next year, I agree with what Dimeman suggested, have some round dining tables and
ample chairs for ANA attendees ... Dealers and Collectors alike. None of us are getting any
younger.

originalisbest · August 20, 2013 1:20AM

Everybody likes a place to sit, but I've never heard anyone complain about it as vociferously as this.

kimber45ACP · August 20, 2013 1:33AM

<< I hate Chicago anyway! >>

+1

VERY VERY VERY BAD situation at ANA!!!!

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