Cracked slabs on eBay

Baez578 · July 17, 2013 12:27PM

I can't remember if I originally saw this here or on another thread...either way, I can't seem to find thread so I'm reposting.

My question on this is....is this legal? If so, shouldn't eBay remove it?

Cracked slabs

Maurice · July 17, 2013 12:38PM

Comments from the ebay seller from net54:

Link to net54 thread: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172405

addicted2ebay · July 17, 2013 12:49PM

Bad seller & a bad guy. On the other hand if he outs the top bidders along with the winner we can see who might be trying to re-seal cracked out slabs. A chance to do some good?

grote15 · July 17, 2013 12:52PM

So he tries begging for a handout from PSA and when they tell him no, he decides to facilitate fraudulent activity? Sounds like a real winner.

hyperchipper09 · July 17, 2013 12:56PM

Classic shift of blame. Blame the grading companies.
The right thing to do: Call PSA, SGC and tell them you've got empty holders, cards have been cracked out. . Then you destroy the cracked cases, providing proof to PSA/SGC. You ask them to delete the serial numbers from their pop reports. If they offer something, fine, accept it. If they simply say "thank you for your due diligence in destroying the cases" but offer nothing, you still walk away knowing you have done the right thing. Seems pretty simple.
To me, that's the right thing to do.

handyman · July 17, 2013 12:57PM

I dont think the scam starts with buying a bunch of junk cracked slabs. I think the guys doing this would rather buy a legit Graded Mantle Rookie(or any high dollar card/product) and then carefuly crack the slab removing the legit Mantle. And then replace it with a trimmed or fake Mantle in its place. I dont think they are just looking on ebay for junk slabs but more a buyer of lefit product. Then they do their scam. Also there are plenty of .99 PSA auctions that go for just that price. You can probably find free sh on some as well. I doubt this is what the scammers are looking for.

psychump · July 17, 2013 1:07PM

Looks like one guy really wants them! Maybe somebody should buy them and do the right thing.

digicat · July 17, 2013 1:36PM

I like how he throws up a "special needs person" as a shield to:
1) show how kind he is
2) call everyone else a d-bag for coming after him

mariotown · July 17, 2013 2:03PM

I posted this on the PSA SET REGISTRY forum. I reported the auction and nothing happened. According to eBay's rules, auctions cannot facilitate illegal activity which is what this auction is doing.

Kevin

Baez578 · July 17, 2013 10:42PM

<< <i>I posted this on the PSA SET REGISTRY forum. I reported the auction and nothing happened. According to eBay's rules, auctions cannot facilitate illegal activity which is what this auction is doing.

Kevin >>

Thanks Mario...I thought it was there...couldn't find thread.

Does anyone know if this ahole is on CU?

Btw, this is the second time we've heard someone play the special needs card on the forums in a month? The other one I believe was regarding an obvious shill bidder.

Baez578 · July 17, 2013 10:45PM

<< <i>I dont think the scam starts with buying a bunch of junk cracked slabs. I think the guys doing this would rather buy a legit Graded Mantle Rookie(or any high dollar card/product) and then carefuly crack the slab removing the legit Mantle. And then replace it with a trimmed or fake Mantle in its place. I dont think they are just looking on ebay for junk slabs but more a buyer of lefit product. Then they do their scam. Also there are plenty of .99 PSA auctions that go for just that price. You can probably find free sh on some as well. I doubt this is what the scammers are looking for. >>

That's a good point.

I thought at some point I saw here though that there are people making fake slabs. Perhaps this would interest them?

KennytheRat · July 17, 2013 10:52PM

<< <i>I dont think the scam starts with buying a bunch of junk cracked slabs. I think the guys doing this would rather buy a legit Graded Mantle Rookie(or any high dollar card/product) and then carefuly crack the slab removing the legit Mantle. And then replace it with a trimmed or fake Mantle in its place. I dont think they are just looking on ebay for junk slabs but more a buyer of lefit product. Then they do their scam. Also there are plenty of .99 PSA auctions that go for just that price. You can probably find free sh on some as well. I doubt this is what the scammers are looking for. >>

I agree that the real scammers may not be interested as it would be easily traced back to them particularly if the seller leaves them feedback. But it is more likely an amateur who thinks they stumbled onto their next great idea.

LarkinCollector · July 17, 2013 11:59PM

What fraud could even take place with these? Looking at the SGC slabs, they're obvious crackouts. No one would buy a card 'resealed' in those slabs. It's more difficult to tell on the PSAs given the picture quality.

japhi · July 18, 2013 12:24AM

I agree with he sentiment that this guy is a super douche.

That said, the bigger issues to me are:

The integrity of the registry from crack outs. How many cards are cracked re-subbed, cracked re-subbed, or cracked and put into binders raw? In such a small market of buyers, a pop 5 is much different than a pop 8 or 10.

And more importantly, why is it possible to re-use a PSA slab that's been cracked open. Isn't one of the major PSA selling points that there slabs are tamper proof? If they are (never cracked one, don't know enough about them) then this is a non issue. Based on the responses on this thread it seems to me that these slabs can be re-used and passed as authentic.

Baez578 · July 18, 2013 4:51AM

<< <i>I agree with he sentiment that this guy is a super douche.

That said, the bigger issues to me are:

The integrity of the registry from crack outs. How many cards are cracked re-subbed, cracked re-subbed, or cracked and put into binders raw? In such a small market of buyers, a pop 5 is much different than a pop 8 or 10.

And more importantly, why is it possible to re-use a PSA slab that's been cracked open. Isn't one of the major PSA selling points that there slabs are tamper proof? If they are (never cracked one, don't know enough about them) then this is a non issue. Based on the responses on this thread it seems to me that these slabs can be re-used and passed as authentic. >>

I'm not sure the slabs are as much the issue as it is the headers with legit sn's

digicat · July 18, 2013 5:02AM

Forward this to PSA, and they'll delete the serial numbers from their database.

They did this a while back when some dude tried to sell a stack of cracked out PSA labels.

KbKards · July 18, 2013 5:34AM

I'm pretty sure douche would be offended being compared to this guy.